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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12018	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:53:00 - [7051] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /me had nothing to do with the newest round of info. and no, no minnie knives anytime soon, but do enjoy the NK's current 5th damage type at 100/100 effectiveness. You and I had back'n'forth regarding the utility of cloaks. I saw them as lowering the scout talent pool; you saw them as a scout Swiss army knife, useful in many situations. While I still have no plans to use cloaks, I'll admit that I sure used the hell out of my sidearm. At least it gave me the ability to directly earn WP, instead of being an augment to skills already in MY toolbox. (here's your chance to doubt my abilities as a scout for using such a crutch) o7 In CQC that side arm slot is too damn useful in a variety of configs and setups, from dual smgs, to sniper side arm. While scout snipers need them the regular snipers really don. overall tetricide is looking better and better as it would allow for either or. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2804	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:56:00 - [7052] - Quote A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A sniper is a prime example of someone who ABSOLUTELY needs a side arm. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4447	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:58:00 - [7053] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
pseudosnipre 510	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:59:00 - [7054] - Quote Suggested this elsewhere: pseudosnipre wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Then can we please remove the Sidearm bonus from Minmatar Scouts? Change it to a bonus to biotics, and buff Base Nova Knife damage to make up for the loss of the 25%. Chromosome let us pick between second equipment slot and sidearm...but now we have to skill both a racial light AND racial scout skill to have that same utility. Skill discontinuity exists when a medium frame -> assault and logistics; complimentary paths that allow players to benefit from weapon and tanking skills already unlocked. But light suit-> scout and pilot; two skill pathways with very different SP branches. Any chance you would consider leaving "scout" suits alone and just adding a parallel racial specialization path for each of these proposed specializations? I'd rather skill a Gallente infiltrator to get a second equipment slot as opposed to having to skill Minmatar light and scout trees to get my sidearm back. This way it feels like I'm gaining a specialization instead of forcibly losing my sidearm... o7 Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2806	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:00:00 - [7055] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. We can continue to disagree on everything. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12018	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:01:00 - [7056] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? Redline, regular, someone that doesnt get close to the action wouldn't need it, if he can out run and hide well most threats he should be good to go. Recon snipers like myself however get into the mix far too often especially when ditch sniping people off the roofs. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
pseudosnipre 510	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:01:00 - [7057] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Please keep in mind that this further removes the scout suit from being the go-to sniper fit. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Scout Registry 469	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:01:00 - [7058] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Ahhh ... Then all the good snipers must use Scout Suits. And no good Snipers use the Logi frame. Curious how there exists only a handful of Scout Snipers.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1856	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:01:00 - [7059] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. We can continue to disagree on everything. He disagrees to disagree So about those vehicle locks...
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4448	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:04:00 - [7060] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Please keep in mind that this further removes the scout suit from being the go-to sniper fit. Scout is the fastest, and has the ability to fit a cloak and whatever damage or HP mods he needs. He will be able to keep a distance between him and the enemy, remain unseen when moving to new positions and still deliver high enough damage to be a useful asset on the battlefield. Med frames will have to sacrifice their abilities to equip mods that enhance damage and HP if they want the cloak, and if they dont have the cloak, a good counter sniper (The Scout) should spot them, without revealing his position. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)

noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 408	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:04:00 - [7061] - Quote Some what glad I have a assault, logi and heavy as back up on this toon Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4448	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:06:00 - [7062] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redline sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Ahhh ... Then all the good snipers must use Scout Suits. And no good Snipers use the Logi frame. Curious how there exists only a handful of Scout Snipers. Well of course, how many Scouts did you say existed in the community? Of course there will be a low amount of Scout Snipers, if there is already a low amount of Scouts. Of course there are going to be less, Sniping isn't even a popular activity for Med Frames, and we know how many of them exist (In their thousands) Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 721	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:06:00 - [7063] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: The sound for decloaking should be the same as the decloak sound for someone spawning in. Bet you dollars to donuts it will be. Seeing as how they'll be using the exact same animation and effects, I'm guessing. I've been noticing lately, that on spawn-in, there seems to be more see-through sparkely effect in first-person mode than I remember previously. So, odds are, they're using spawn-in as betatest for cloak effects. If you assume that is true... how do y'all feel about that level of sparkley, being the cloak visibility? if you dont like it, speak up now to CCP, before it's too late!
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 208	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:07:00 - [7064] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: @ Quil ? He talks alot. Scout Registry wrote: Why must a buff involve a bargain? ^ this. " No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2808	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:07:00 - [7065] - Quote You know those logi's with swarms and sniper rifles that you all laugh at when you get close to because they stupidly equipped a weapon in their one equipment slot that does nothing against infantry or is useless in close range? Yeah that's going to be all of you. Have fun with that. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1822	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:08:00 - [7066] - Quote Kahn Zo wrote: Scout Registry wrote: @ Quil ? He talks alot. Scout Registry wrote: Why must a buff involve a bargain? ^ this. It's something about the Dust Uni curriculum. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 408	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:11:00 - [7067] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redlframe for his craft sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Ahhh ... Then all the good snipers must use Scout Suits. And no good Snipers use the Logi frame. Curious how there exists only a handful of Scout Snipers. Best sniper I know as in full time is a bastard named cere harkens. I can without a shadow of a doubt say he has never used a scout frame. Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2808	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:13:00 - [7068] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redlframe for his craft sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Ahhh ... Then all the good snipers must use Scout Suits. And no good Snipers use the Logi frame. Curious how there exists only a handful of Scout Snipers. Best sniper I know as in full time is a bastard named cere harkens. I can without a shadow of a doubt say he has never used a scout frame. Cere on manus peak ughhhhhhhh Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1212	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:14:00 - [7069] - Quote The answer to snipers/AVs is the same as the one I gave to assassins, add new light suits. This time make a new T2 that has 2x light weapons and 2x equipment. This new suit can have bonuses to both AV and sniping. Snipers/AVers don't really need the scan profile of a scout. If they get pinged, they have usually have plenty of time to relocate or locate the threat and eliminate them. Making the scout the sniper/cqc-skirmisher/ewar/etc suit is putting too much into one suit. Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist \| C-Chaos Weaver \| G-Stealth Recon \| A-Endurance Hunter
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 210	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:16:00 - [7070] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: " Recon snipers like myself however get into the mix far too often especially when ditch sniping people off the roofs." I have been since my start. I will run with you anytime to see, learned, experience. Yes, anytime sniper scout role comes up in postings, esp in scout registry, I will get passionate and respond. " No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz

noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 408	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:18:00 - [7071] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: noob cavman wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: A regular sniper doesn't need a side arm? Don't you mean a redlframe for his craft sniper doesn't need a side arm? A good sniper should never be seen, he should never let anyone near him, so no, he doesn't need a sidearm. Ahhh ... Then all the good snipers must use Scout Suits. And no good Snipers use the Logi frame. Curious how there exists only a handful of Scout Snipers. Best sniper I know as in full time is a bastard named cere harkens. I can without a shadow of a doubt say he has never used a scout frame. Cere on manus peak ughhhhhhhh you've been touched as well? Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2808	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:20:00 - [7072] - Quote noob cavman wrote: you've been touched as well? It's been a while since I've seen the name but Cere is a big reason why I absolutely loathe manus peak. Cere used to play for Amarr/Caldari so I'd see them in games constantly. One night I played against Cere about 4 or 5 times. Cere sniped near 100 people in those games and never died. Impressive and irritating all at the same time. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 495	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:23:00 - [7073] - Quote True Adamance wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: So not only are scouts paper thin, we are going to double the cost of our suits....or even triple. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: most shotty scouts can't run that mentality its cost inefficent and knowing cloaks from eve they're going to be expensive and would likely double the price of any suit they're attached to. This has more to do with the amount of tech going into the module to make them though eve side. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1703889#post1703889 Admittedly though the ISK disparities between EVE and dust are great. It strikes me odd that a tank in some cases could have costed more than a frigate (pre 1.7) yet the frigate is around 100m in length or more with better technology, larger guns, and even having to buy ammo and more complex modules. As much as Sabrewolf makes a solid point I wouldn't be too discouraged, I doubt CCP will be willing to make cloaks double to costs of current scout load outs. And yet, we have tanks that cost less than assault rifles? There are no disparities, the cost that is in eve, is the same cost in dust man. We are on the same server, same market, except its all NPC seeded. I really hold no hope left for the cloak. No amount of feedback will probably sway what has already been decided, so its probably just time to let the hammer fall and deal with it. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 721	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:24:00 - [7074] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: @ Quil You basically volunteered that we fall on our swords and trade our primary weapons for cloaks. That was only one of my proposals. I also brought up sidearm slot as an alternative. There are positives and negatives for each way. Quote: Back to the topic at hand ... If we're under-performing, then we should be buffed. Why must a buff involve a bargain? BECAUSE CCP, HELLO??? And also, when a scout can often be #1 in things like faction warfare, we are by definition NOT "underperforming". we are "overperforming". When are you going to be ready to take your head out of ... the sand... , and look at reality? They're NOT going to give us exactly what we'd like. If you dont come up with a counter-proposal that fits CCP's ideas of balance, it will be ignored by them. So, do you want to waste your time complaining uselessly, or do you want to collaborate on a proposal that actually has some chance of being accepted by them?!
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 495	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:26:00 - [7075] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: BECAUSE CCP, HELLO??? So, do you want to waste your time complaining uselessly, or do you want to collaborate on a proposal that actually has some chance of being accepted by them?! Because we actually want this game to survive....and be fun PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 409	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:27:00 - [7076] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: noob cavman wrote: you've been touched as well? It's been a while since I've seen the name but Cere is a big reason why I absolutely loathe manus peak. Cere used to play for Amarr/Caldari so I'd see them in games constantly. One night I played against Cere about 4 or 5 times. Cere sniped near 100 people in those games and never died. Impressive and irritating all at the same time. Yep he is that dedicated to the role you can't actually get angry at him don't help he is a really nice guy and has a smooth jazz voice Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4450	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:30:00 - [7077] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: You know those logi's with swarms and sniper rifles that you all laugh at when you get close to because they stupidly equipped a weapon in their one equipment slot that does nothing against infantry or is useless in close range? Yeah that's going to be all of you. Have fun with that. No it wont, if I decide to snipe, I wont let the enemy get near me, and I'll blow their heads off as they traverse open ground trying to do so. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3882	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:32:00 - [7078] - Quote You Scouts sure are talkative
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 721	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:34:00 - [7079] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: You know those logi's with swarms and sniper rifles that you all laugh at when you get close to because they stupidly equipped a weapon in their one equipment slot that does nothing against infantry or is useless in close range? Yeah that's going to be all of you. Have fun with that. No it wont, if I decide to snipe, I wont let the enemy get near me, and I'll blow their heads off as they traverse open ground trying to do so. Unless of course, they have, you know... a cloak.
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4450	Posted - 2014.01.13 21:36:00 - [7080] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: You Scouts sure are talkative I'm sure all the Scouts hate me now because I want the role to be EWAR before a mock assault suit. I just want the role to be relevent in PC, and that wont happen if we dont get our two equip slots and bonus to EWAR before Combat. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)



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