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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:52:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: What'd be cool is if you did your job.
You're a liaison between the playerbase and the Devs. So liaise. Let the Devs know that many players skilled Minmando and Swarms specifically to run Swarms on the Minmando. Let the Devs know that those who did are perturbed by the sudden switcheroo. Ask the Devs if it might be possible for the Swarm and MN Commando skilltrees to be refunded. If they say "no, it isn't possible", then come back and tell us exactly that.
You don't have to be a PR expert to figure this one out.
Oh well when you put it like that Alright. Peace out, think I've spent enough time playing Reddit/roastme for one night.
"My bad for giving it to you straight instead of burying it fanciful PR talk? Is that something you guys want me to do from now on, because I totally can lol."
- Aeon Amadi. ~5 minutes ago. |
J0LLY R0G3R
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:53:00 -
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Just glanced over some of the swarm talk, personally don't mind it because I don't use em.
That said the whole "well it was mentioned so and so many months ago" that doesn't really do much for people who don't look at the forums. Wasn't it a cpm who actually was saying something along the lines of : 5% of the player base visit the forums.
anywho XD pc X( |
Aeon Amadi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:58:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: What'd be cool is if you did your job.
You're a liaison between the playerbase and the Devs. So liaise. Let the Devs know that many players skilled Minmando and Swarms specifically to run Swarms on the Minmando. Let the Devs know that those who did are perturbed by the sudden switcheroo. Ask the Devs if it might be possible for the Swarm and MN Commando skilltrees to be refunded. If they say "no, it isn't possible", then come back and tell us exactly that.
You don't have to be a PR expert to figure this one out.
Oh well when you put it like that Alright. Peace out, think I've spent enough time playing Reddit/roastme for one night. "My bad for giving it to you straight instead of burying it fanciful PR talk? Is that something you guys want me to do from now on, because I totally can lol."
Here's the straight version then, if you think you can do a better job: Let's say I ask - again, maybe, because who knows if I did or not? - do you think I could tell you what the answer was? Passing along information from a developer? Because, yanno, there's this thing:
9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited. The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, DUST Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:59:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
My bad for giving it to you straight instead of burying it fanciful PR talk? Is that something you guys want me to do from now on, because I totally can lol.
What I want is to be clear, and making sure there is no miscommunication. We have seen how many problems that can cause, and I see no reason to add more.
I took your comment as a personal, informed opinion, and not as an official stance from CCP.
I would rather people not take it as anything official without it being specified.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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mollerz
7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah okay. Lemme just kill all individuality to be what everyone else wants me to be: a blubbering idiot in a suit that everyone hates for political rhetoric. Nah, I'm good. White Paper says that the CPM should be an example of behavior for the community, doesn't say it has to be all fluffy bunny wuffle whoo. I'm blunt, I'm direct, and I'm not going to beat around the bush. My bad if that doesn't fit the popular opinion but that's how I'd want to be treated and that's how I wanted to be treated by CPM1. And good luck finding any game where continued development in a game does not marginalize players, lol. That is a tall order if I've ever heard one. You basically couldn't change anything, no matter how insane the legacy designs and sins of former devs were - which is something that the current dev team has been trying to do ever since the FF14 debacle. Annnnd the SoonTM thing? Yeah, you can rip on them all you'd like but it's kinda dumb to do so, lol. S'like hecklers at a comedy session.
Hmm.. that is not what I said, or imparted. I guess you might not care, but I will try anyways. Nope. No one expects you to not be yourself. In fact, I can only surmise you being you is what got you elected. No issues there. All I was saying is you were elected by the gaming community. There are implications to that. You can own up to that or not. But it is the reality of it.
I sense you don't really have a handle on the difference, and maybe that's because you feel embattled by it vs being of the mind to work with it. It's not easy man. I won't lie, but it is a skillset that you might find you utilize in many aspects of life- not just as a CPM. food for thought!
hmm.. yes. Some games have development issues. It's not a good habit to say hey it's fubar over there so it's cool to be fubar where I am. That gets no one nowhere, right?
Well, I Wasn't the -redacted- in the soon thing. I get the last laugh.. I guess? Not that is exactly like that. It was just a symptom that spoke of larger issues really. You are right not worth going into.. but it is a headshaker.
And jeez.. it is lame to play the victim card. We are all having a very chill discussion really. This is too much for you? cmon man.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:01:00 -
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On the Minmando issueGǪ Many Skilled Minmando because it was one of the few viable AV choices at a point in time. Then it was the best AV choice, so more skilled into it for that purpose. Minmando is good for other things though. I have fun running it and I've never put swarms on it. Though I have a fun Minja NK/Swarms fit. Is it frustrating to have your entire AV setup not work all the suddenGǪ Yup. Ask me about not being able to hit a HAV with 3 RE unless I go Proto? Or that Packed are are fantastically garbage and don;t seem to be addressed in this massive set of changesGǪ if you don't think I understand. Is the seemingly flippant response "just get a respec" helpful? Not really, and does not show a willingness to raise the issue or ease community concerns. I am glad that CCP did address the lack of AV options for the Min at leastGǪ
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
16
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:02:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: What'd be cool is if you did your job.
You're a liaison between the playerbase and the Devs. So liaise. Let the Devs know that many players skilled Minmando and Swarms specifically to run Swarms on the Minmando. Let the Devs know that those who did are perturbed by the sudden switcheroo. Ask the Devs if it might be possible for the Swarm and MN Commando skilltrees to be refunded. If they say "no, it isn't possible", then come back and tell us exactly that.
You don't have to be a PR expert to figure this one out.
Oh well when you put it like that Alright. Peace out, think I've spent enough time playing Reddit/roastme for one night. "My bad for giving it to you straight instead of burying it fanciful PR talk? Is that something you guys want me to do from now on, because I totally can lol." Here's the straight version then, if you think you can do a better job: Let's say I ask - again, maybe, because who knows if I did or not? - do you think I could tell you what the answer was? Passing along information from a developer? Because, yanno, there's this thing: 9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited. The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, DUST Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. That's a fair point, but still you're passing up an opportunity to earn some serious points with the playerbase. Nothing in the NDA prohibits you from telling players "I'll ask the Devs whether or not a limited SP refund is possible."
You may not be able to tell us their response, but at least we'll know that you, Aeon Amadi, heard our concerns and made honest effort to present those concerns (along with potential solution) to the Devs. That counts for something. And it counts for alot more than "it was mentioned in 2014" or "buy a respec if you don't like it."
I'm not trying to "roast" you or be mean-spirited here. Just offering some friendly advice. |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:03:00 -
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inb4 Joel comes to gloat
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:05:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: What'd be cool is if you did your job.
You're a liaison between the playerbase and the Devs. So liaise. Let the Devs know that many players skilled Minmando and Swarms specifically to run Swarms on the Minmando. Let the Devs know that those who did are perturbed by the sudden switcheroo. Ask the Devs if it might be possible for the Swarm and MN Commando skilltrees to be refunded. If they say "no, it isn't possible", then come back and tell us exactly that.
You don't have to be a PR expert to figure this one out.
Oh well when you put it like that Alright. Peace out, think I've spent enough time playing Reddit/roastme for one night. "My bad for giving it to you straight instead of burying it fanciful PR talk? Is that something you guys want me to do from now on, because I totally can lol." Here's the straight version then, if you think you can do a better job: Let's say I ask - again, maybe, because who knows if I did or not? - do you think I could tell you what the answer was? Passing along information from a developer? Because, yanno, there's this thing: 9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited. The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, DUST Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. That's a fair point, but still you're passing up an opportunity to earn some serious points with the playerbase. Nothing in the NDA prohibits you from telling players "I'll ask the Devs whether or not a limited SP refund is possible." You may not be able to tell us their response, but at least we'll know you heard our concerns and tried. That counts for something. And it counts for alot more than "it was mentioned in 2014" or "buy a respec if you don't like it." I'm not trying to be mean-spirited here.
We'll/we've ask/asked the Devs whether or not a limited SP refund is possible.
Happy? Can we get off the pedestal?
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: We'll/we've ask/asked the Devs whether or not a limited SP refund is possible.
Happy? Can we get off the pedestal?
:: steps off pedestal ::
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mollerz
7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:16:00 -
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:: steps on pedestal ::
.. and stays there |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
16
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:18:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Yo scrublords, quit bickering over useless bullsh!t and let's move on to something important.
What corp should I join? Don't bail! But if you did, I'd recommend Kaeru's corp if they're still active. Good people.
I'll be back as soon as possible, btw, and I'll definitely pewpew with you. We've had an endless supply of well-wishers popping in (some for days on end ) to meet the little booger. Been busy. And when it isn't, the sleep schedule tends to interfere with the Nintendo schedule.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:21:00 -
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mollerz wrote::: steps on pedestal :: .. and stays there You would. |
J0LLY R0G3R
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:21:00 -
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mollerz wrote::: steps on pedestal :: .. and stays there
Now turn.
XD |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:22:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:First Prophet wrote:Yo scrublords, quit bickering over useless bullsh!t and let's move on to something important.
What corp should I join? Don't bail! But if you did, I'd recommend Kaeru's corp if they're still active. Good people. I'll be back as soon as possible, btw, and I'll definitely pewpew with you. We've had an endless supply of well-wishers popping in (some for days on end ) to meet the little booger. Been busy. And when it isn't, the sleep schedule tends to interfere with the Nintendo schedule. I'll (Kelc) be around too soon enoughGǪ just so Shiny in MG right now. But I'm interested in the changes coming up. Breach Flaylock being designed to blow up vehiclesGǪ I've been doing it the hard way for so long this might be to easy
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
9
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:27:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:mollerz wrote::: steps on pedestal :: .. and stays there Now turn. XD And give a little shakeGǪ Work it Mollerz
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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mollerz
7
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:30:00 -
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Oh I thought we were playing scout of the mountain again?
::Puts down red jar:: |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:33:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Oh I thought we were playing scout of the mountain again?
::Puts down red jar:: We can't play that anymoreGǪ the Epeen Kids ruined it
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.28 00:04:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Yeah, it sucks, they lost the 10% damage bonus to Swarms and it went to another suit. However, if we had to issue out respecs to every marginalized player who felt shafted over the interim changes we'd be offering free respecs by now.
May I just pull this out of this slightly silly conversation.
This seems like a pretty good reason why CCP doesn't give respecs for changes very often.
It is quite a clear cut situation this time with swarms, but how many people would make a massive fuss about every little change and demand a respec? It already happens quite a lot.
Sadly it's probably just not feasible to give respecs for game modifications for this reason.
It would be nice if Aeon could ask CCP about it, and great if we could get a statement back from CCP. But I think the answer will be a "no" for this reason.
You've got to ask, is the change worth the inconvenience of the players? I think in this case, since swarms will still be pretty good on a Min commando, mass drivers will be effective AV weapons, and the fact that swarm launchers are Caldari weapons, it will be worth it.
I think people just have to accept that, if you are playing an online game, which benefits from continued development (no matter how minimal), things are going to change, and the changes may not always be beneficial to you personally. This is pretty much true of any such online game. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.09.28 00:45:00 -
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Hey, guys! Gu-...
Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:inb4 Joel comes to gloat
Oh.
Gloating is for suckers.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:11:00 -
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@ Varoth
It would be nice if they granted a respec to the Minmando and/or Swarm trees to people with less than 10m SP though.
It could help new players out.
But I also understand the hassle of it.
Both sides have good cause for argument, and I don't think there is reason to minimize either one.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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mollerz
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:15:00 -
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tossed my PS3 on and updated. played one match and went 11/11. I had one instance of hit detection issue with knives.. but I was getting hit by MD fire at the same time. I also got killed by a guy twice by his PLC and what is up with not taking damage form your own PLC? I was on top of the guy slashing him when he hit me, although he was slightly in the air each time. I had slashed him a couple times and he had 450 armor left, so a PLC hit that killed me should have killed him as well.
@Aeon- you know what would improve the game dramatically? The ability to get into squads on your team quickly. A little bit of war barge time wouldn't hurt either. the removal of both of those options is terrible.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:44:00 -
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mollerz wrote:tossed my PS3 on and updated. played one match and went 11/11. I had one instance of hit detection issue with knives.. but I was getting hit by MD fire at the same time. I also got killed by a guy twice by his PLC and what is up with not taking damage form your own PLC? I was on top of the guy slashing him when he hit me, although he was slightly in the air each time. I had slashed him a couple times and he had 450 armor left, so a PLC hit that killed me should have killed him as well.
PLC splash isn't that strong, especially towards armor. I think it was somewhere in the early 200's and then -10%. @Aeon- you know what would improve the game dramatically? The ability to get into squads on your team quickly. A little bit of war barge time wouldn't hurt either. the removal of both of those options is terrible.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:44:00 -
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Dear scouts for most of you that I know , we have one thing in common : we ALL love skirmish. Unfortunately, this game mode often gets horribly long timers. Therefore , I undertook a project of reviving this dying gamemode for all skirmish lovers. I created and started populating the chat 'Skirmish Queue'. It is small but it's goal will be to be bigger and the goal is to make a huge chat where all the skirmish players rest. The effects will be : Good battles due to squads , short timers , active gamemode that we all love. I appreciate all the help I can get with this , dear scouts. May you keep on roaming incognito , whoever you all are.
For more info : ( bump the link post ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=217569
Skirmishers Unite !
Help me revive our beloved gamemode.
Chat: Skirmish Queue
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:45:00 -
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mollerz wrote:tossed my PS3 on and updated.
\o/ |
XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:49:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Dear scouts for most of you that I know , we have one thing in common : we ALL love skirmish. Unfortunately, this game mode often gets horribly long timers. Therefore , I undertook a project of reviving this dying gamemode for all skirmish lovers. I created and started populating the chat 'Skirmish Queue'. It is small but it's goal will be to be bigger and the goal is to make a huge chat where all the skirmish players rest. The effects will be : Good battles due to squads , short timers , active gamemode that we all love. I appreciate all the help I can get with this , dear scouts. May you keep on roaming incognito , whoever you all are. For more info : ( bump the link post ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=217569 Interesting, I'll see if I have any disposable chats when I get on.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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chill penguin
Red and Silver Hand
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Posted - 2015.09.28 03:10:00 -
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I believe i went too ham. |
mollerz
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Posted - 2015.09.28 03:40:00 -
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That woudl explain the PLC then.
Damn shame about that lag. Makes knifing pretty hard when you are getting like 10 FPS. played 4 matches. 3 were laggy like old tittays.
Ah well. PS4 back on. |
J0LLY R0G3R
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Posted - 2015.09.28 03:41:00 -
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Sad face, jumped on to finish up the cal fw thing since I had a booster going. Logged on and instantly get invited to squad for a pc. Then another, another, another, another... So no FW for me today X( Did make around 17mill though. Cal assault apex u allude me one day more. |
Harbingerof War
G0DS AM0NG MEN
66
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:11:00 -
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Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit.
Been logi'ing since release. Need to give those needles and self proclaimed king of logi hugs ^-^
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