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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:23:00 -
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Just took 3212 damage from a single guy in an advanced cal assault with an advance RR in about 1 to 2 secs max.... How's that even possible? |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:50:00 -
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Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. I haven't run Cal much, but I wouldn't use more than 1 Precision mod. With EWAR like it is, if you run 1 Precision, that should be sufficient. You are best off running shields in your high slot, and getting in and out with a hit and run style
I know Ghost has been liking it a lot lately, so hopefully he stops in to suggest something.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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mollerz
7
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Posted - 2015.09.28 05:50:00 -
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After a little bit of rumination, the positives were:
- 3rd low slot on an M/1 is nice.
- I stabbed a backpedaler to death. It was pretty fair too.. he was able to shoot me some so if he didn't panic he may have had me.
- I went biotic heavy and had some fun with it. Was rolling 11.x M/s with IshNoks. I was EWAR none but maybe people have no awareness or I wasn't being seen as a stock maxed M/1. Not sure what to think, but it is nice to be confident with no damps.
- The magsec is massively improved. no more wack ass jitter to it. Drives nails but has a decent delay. Seems good. Rocks people too.
- Those new and improved compact nanos are nice
- I regen armor now! 87 ain't hard to recoup stock either
- I am compensating for lack of POV with 100 X axis/90 Y axis to spin a bit faster
- knifing is still fun when there was no lag.
Anyone play around with the MD? I was thinking about tossing one on to go after tanks.. I might play in the wee hours tonight because I always noticed lag dropped off for me back in the days around then. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:02:00 -
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Did the new hotfix deploy?
I was under the impression it hadn't yet.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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noob cavman
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:16:00 -
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Shhhh I wanted molly to shoot at a gv.o with a mass driver
The most abusive northerner.
currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
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mollerz
7
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:25:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Shhhh I wanted molly to shoot at a gv.o with a mass driver
Haha you rock. No one eye I just haven't played in so long I had 4 mil unadulterated SP to spend.
Also PG in highs!
But good to know it might get better soon....Gäó |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:37:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: Hundreds of us skilled Swarms and MN Commando to run Swarms on the MN Commando. If it must be done -- for whatever reason -- then it must be done. But why not also refund everyone's SP investment in Swarm Launcher and the MN Commando skilltrees? Anything else would be a raw deal.
Mentioned this before but the only reason it doesn't happen I suspect is because of the amount of problems they've had trying to recompense anything at all. Something always seemed to go wrong and I think they just stopped trying as not only was it clearly too hard to do safely, leaving them a mess to clear up with precious dev time, but they lost most of their team anyways. Totally agree. I'd assumed that refunding SP investment in a couple skill trees could be done with minimal effort / risk. If doing so requires a large amount of Dev Time, then I can understand why it isn't being considered. Still, I'd imagine they'd be better off leveling with us than the current "well, we mentioned it might happen back in 2014" or "buy a respec if you don't like it."
Sure but to be fair to CCP, they did try several times with various items (not just SP) but always seemed to run into technical difficulties, and it's not CCP saying what you quoted in italics.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:53:00 -
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@Aeon
Just a quick Q for you. because that's all this boils down to, and we can agree to differ: in an ideal world, do you think the refund of SP where fundamental changes have been made (the current hotfix is just an example of this, so don't respond for this specifically) is appropriate?
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.09.28 07:55:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:VAHZZ wrote:
Cal Logi GA Assault gonna be OP when hotfix drops.
With options! Dual Tanked - OP Damage Amp'd - OP Yeah I'm trying to save up SP to invest in the rest of the shield trees. Coz that mad regen fit Ghost posted a while back is gonna be even madder and I wanna try it. Ghost you gotta unretire yourself again and run that fit once the hotfix is live, tell us if it's viable (no PC :-p ) You haven't skilled into shields yet? Only thing I need to get to 5 is recharging up from 3, but I don't see the point. ADV are good enough, imo. Regulators are godlike, and even more once the hotfix drops.
Only the extender tree. I don't run any other shield mods (I don't always run extenders!), and even if those trees were maxed, I still wouldn't. My scouts are all about the EWAR and speed.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.09.28 08:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:@ Varoth
It would be nice if they granted a respec to the Minmando and/or Swarm trees
Just as a heads up, because I have actually run the numbers on this:
You are actually losing less than 10% sustained DPS. On most of the Light AV options on a commando the key isn't the +10%, it's the reload speed on sustained DPS.
you lose about 204 per alpha strike.
roughly a loss of 151 DPS overall from alpha. this is triple modded and skill maxed on the suit and weapon.
Now if we go over to sustained DPS...
A baseline suit that's triple-modded and maxed out in all ways...
Runs at 857.7 DPS sustained over reloads, and continual fire.
the universal commando bonus brings this to 961.1
Calmando Sustained DPS will be 1057.3
Minmatar post-change will be 961.1
Grand total of 96 DPS loss. As far as vehicle fighting goes this is pretty minimal, and unlikely to alter TTK.
with the 204/shot loss from the 10% (51 Alpha per missile)
For those of you who remember back about six, eight months ago when i posted my findings on why heavy damage mods are a joke when forge gunning, because in no situation did they reduce actual number of shots needed to kill a target?
the Forge gun shot loss under similar circumstances, going from 3 mods to zero, a rough 12%, results in a loss of 241 Alpha on the IAFG.
So as it sits, the Minmando damage bonus for purpose of AV is pretty much a placebo, unlikely to actually alter Shots to Kill except in the visual sense where you see the health bars move farther.
Because the commando reload speed makes a larger difference in most AV cases (minmando and Calmando can both get higher damage than the galmando by about 1% because of damage mod layout) the minmatar 10% explosive bonus was largely a placebo.
It's the reload speed that matters.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.09.28 08:29:00 -
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Sorry about the messy post. I stayed up way too damn late, so I'm a bit groggy.
gnight.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
659
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:02:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Just took 3212 damage from a single guy in an advanced cal assault with an advance RR in about 1 to 2 secs max.... How's that even possible? well you see..... he wasn't using RR rounds... he was shooting forge bolts (am I the only one who calls them bolts? i don't know why i call them that either might be in the gun description lol) or he had some damage mods ;)
BUILD MORE FARMS!
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:14:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:mollerz wrote:tossed my PS3 on and updated.
\o/ tossed it on the barbie did ya?
BUILD MORE FARMS!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:29:00 -
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Dropping OB's for FA/AE is fun.
I basically just show up, kill a poor dude who doesn't know how to fit a coercer, and then read the Dust killmails laughing at the terrible fits.
Like the one Min sentinel who ran MLT flux grenades.
Or the Stormraiders running 2x Complex Reactive, 1x Enhanced Reactive and a rep, instead of 2x ferro 2x rep.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:32:00 -
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also, did you guys just spend 5 pages complaining about the swarm bonus change?
Like seriously, how did you guys not see this coming a mile away. Swarms are caldari tech, and we knew it.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:48:00 -
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About the SL change, i didn't comment on it cause 1, too many comments on it already, 2, don't mind, i skilled into minmando for the damage modded CR & MD. Geuss ill outfit a calmando with SR & SL. My worry is the NK bonus, they are cal tech as well, & according to you calscout is better at hit-and-run?
That's my only concern IF its considered. Also, Roden gal-l skin = badass.
Thukker min-l AKA Lactaid Assassin, Assault ck.O AKA That Cool Guy that always shows up
TF2 AKA Hat Simulator 2015
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
16
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:02:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Swarms are caldari tech, and we knew it. Aren't Knives also? |
Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
59
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:15:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Swarms are caldari tech, and we knew it. Aren't Knives also? They might be caldari tech but we all know minmatar uses them more effectively than any other race!!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:18:00 -
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Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger
CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-)
Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman.
As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG).
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Harbingerof War
G0DS AM0NG MEN
70
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:22:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-) Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman. As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG). Yeah, I've been using a shotgun with bolt pistol. With two ehanced my profile is 20 and my precision is 26 with 3 ehnaced and 1 basic precision ehancer. Also with the cloak I'm completely new to that and have no clue how to use it properly ever since the update to nerf it's pull out speed.
Been logi'ing since release. Need to give those needles and self proclaimed king of logi hugs ^-^
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Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-) Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman. As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG). That's why I always use Min Scout they're like the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts They have a bit of a learning curve to them but once you've got it down its hard to go to another Scout.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:32:00 -
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Harbingerof War wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-) Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman. As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG). Yeah, I've been using a shotgun with bolt pistol. With two ehanced my profile is 20 and my precision is 26 with 3 ehnaced and 1 basic precision ehancer. Also with the cloak I'm completely new to that and have no clue how to use it properly ever since the update to nerf it's pull out speed. It's awesome (and suspicious) that you're already thinking about EWAR in terms of specific decibel levels. Lots of newbros have popped in here seeking advice over the years; you're the first to pop in with his profile/precision levels in hand.
Welcome.
There's a link on the very top of Page 1 with current Profile and Precision values. For simplicity's sake, these calculations assume the use of complex modules. Take a look at the sheet titled 'Summary'. This will breakdown for you how Falloff works. Your scan precision of 26dB is your mid-range precision. Your close-range precision will be much stronger and your precision at range much weaker ... |
Harbingerof War
G0DS AM0NG MEN
71
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:36:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-) Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman. As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG). Yeah, I've been using a shotgun with bolt pistol. With two ehanced my profile is 20 and my precision is 26 with 3 ehnaced and 1 basic precision ehancer. Also with the cloak I'm completely new to that and have no clue how to use it properly ever since the update to nerf it's pull out speed. It's awesome (and suspicious) that you're already thinking about EWAR in terms of specific decibel levels. Lots of newbros have popped in here seeking advice over the years; you're the first to pop in with his profile/precision levels in hand. Welcome. There's a link on the very top of Page 1 with current Profile and Precision values. For simplicity's sake, these calculations assume the use of complex modules. Take a look at the sheet titled 'Summary'. This will breakdown for you how Falloff works. Your scan precision of 26dB is your mid-range precision. Your close-range precision will be much stronger and your precision at range much weaker ...
yeah, that fit I mentioned above is just on a basic suit and I'm almost at advanced for my caldari scout. Plus I was using this set up for a week. Most of my games I got around an average of 30/15 with a crg and viziam gauged on my suit for points.
Been logi'ing since release. Need to give those needles and self proclaimed king of logi hugs ^-^
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:38:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:That's why I always use Min Scout they're like the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts They have a bit of a learning curve to them but once you've got it down its hard to go to another Scout. Bad news, friend:
Utility GA Scout > CA Scout > MN Scout > AM Scout
Fun MN Scout > GA Scout > CA Scout > AM Scout
The MN Scout is not the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts. The MN Scout is the Party Boy of Scouts. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:49:00 -
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Harbingerof War wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Harbingerof War wrote:Hi, complete scout newb here. I've been loving running the cal scout with complex damps and enhanced precision enhancers. Don't use a cloak due to to much cpu and pg. Need some tips of how to run it properly and possible fittings for a advanced suit fit. o/ Harbinger CalScout doesn't hit its stride until Level 5. Cloak will be tough to fit until max level, and (IIRC) until max level you'll also need a damp in both of your lows to beat 21dB scans. At Level 5, you'll have plenty of room for a STD or ADV cloak (unless you're stacking shields) and you'll only need one complex damp for sub-21dB profile. So hang in there; it gets better :-) Meanwhile, depending upon your playmade preference and Mu ranking, you may not always need a sub-21 dB profile. I'd recommend starting off with one damp; if you get the "you've been scanned" message, pull out a loadout with the second damp equipped. Always try to get away with whatever the enemy lets you. If they let you use your second low slot for something other than damps, I'd recommend a KinCat. A little extra speed can get you into position and out-of-trouble faster. If Range Extenders get buffed (down the road) then extra scan Range might come in more handy than extra speed; for now, they really aren't worth the slot. Ferro and Reactive Plates are another solid option especially if you're a Rifleman. As for weaponry, depending upon the map, I'd recommend pairing Knives with a Rifle or Shotgun with a reliable, ranged sidearm (pre-FoxFour: Bolt, SMG; post-FoxFour: ScP, MagSec, SMG, ASMG). Yeah, I've been using a shotgun with bolt pistol. With two ehanced my profile is 20 and my precision is 26 with 3 ehnaced and 1 basic precision ehancer. Also with the cloak I'm completely new to that and have no clue how to use it properly ever since the update to nerf it's pull out speed. It's awesome (and suspicious) that you're already thinking about EWAR in terms of specific decibel levels. Lots of newbros have popped in here seeking advice over the years; you're the first to pop in with his profile/precision levels in hand. Welcome. There's a link on the very top of Page 1 with current Profile and Precision values. For simplicity's sake, these calculations assume the use of complex modules. Take a look at the sheet titled 'Summary'. This will breakdown for you how Falloff works. Your scan precision of 26dB is your mid-range precision. Your close-range precision will be much stronger and your precision at range much weaker ... yeah, that fit I mentioned above is just on a basic suit and I'm almost at advanced for my caldari scout. Plus I was using this set up for a week. Most of my games I got around an average of 30/15 with a crg and viziam gauged on my suit for points. Nice. Seems you've got a handle on how Precision Enhancers work. Other high slots you may find useful are Shield Extenders and Myofibs (jumps often make for cleaner get-aways). Beyond running damps to beat active scans, there's really no "right fit" when it comes to Scouts. Keep experimenting until you find what works for you. Keep us posted on your progress. o7
One last tip: I'd suggest stockpiling SP to get your CalScout to Level 5. Lots of other tempting skills to grab, and lots of them you'll eventually need. But getting your level 5 racial bonuses will help you more than anything else. |
Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
63
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:05:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:That's why I always use Min Scout they're like the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts They have a bit of a learning curve to them but once you've got it down its hard to go to another Scout. Bad news, friend: UtilityGA Scout > CA Scout > MN Scout > AM Scout FunMN Scout > GA Scout > CA Scout > AM Scout
The MN Scout is not the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts. The MN Scout is the Party Boy of Scouts. While I agree with you that the MinScout is fun surely it has a higher practicality value then the CalScout
Side Note at least we both agree that Amarr Scout is basically useless.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:27:00 -
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Thanks Breakin.
That was very helpful.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:35:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:That's why I always use Min Scout they're like the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts They have a bit of a learning curve to them but once you've got it down its hard to go to another Scout. Bad news, friend: UtilityGA Scout > CA Scout > MN Scout > AM Scout FunMN Scout > GA Scout > CA Scout > AM Scout
The MN Scout is not the Swiss Army Knife of Scouts. The MN Scout is the Party Boy of Scouts. While I agree with you that the MinScout is fun surely it has a higher practicality value then the CalScout Side Note at least we both agree that Amarr Scout is basically useless. I'll concede that MN and CA are very close in terms of relative utility.
A more accurate arse-pulled scale might look like: GA Scout >>> CA Scout > MN Scout >>> AM Scout
Or perhaps even: GA Scout >>> CA Scout >= MN Scout >>> AM Scout
In my mind, relative scout utility is measured by (1) free slots at/below profile of 20dB (with low slots being of greater potential utility than high) and (2) relative usefulness of racial bonuses and attributes.
GA Scout - Beats 21dB scans with 5 free slots (2 high, 3 low) CA Scout - Beats 21dB scans with 5 free slots (4 high, 1 low) MN Scout - Beats 21dB scans with 4 free slots (3 high, 1 low) AM Scout - Beats 21dB scans with 4 free slots (2 high, 2 low)
If the MN and AM Scout shared similar bonuses and attributes, the AM Scout would rank higher on this makeshift utility scale due to the greater number of available low slots. The MN Scout's advantages (speed, hacks, knives), however, are far superior to those of the AM Scout (decent mid-range scans ... if precision amp'd). |
One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:37:00 -
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The very fact that the Minmatar have a knife bonus makes it the Swiss Army Knife of scouts. Even if the other gadgets on it are missing or have low functionality.
I mean, who cares if the nail file is almost as smooth as the knife, or if the corkscrew always takes forever.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:40:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:The very fact that the Minmatar have a knife bonus makes it the Swiss Army Knife of scouts. Even if the other gadgets on it are missing or have low functionality.
I mean, who cares if the nail file is almost as smooth as the knife, or if the corkscrew always takes forever. But how do we know that the MN Scout bonus wasn't a coding error or Dev oversight? Ishukone Corporation
What comes of the MN Scout if one day it goes the way of the MN Commando? Who is to say it won't? Who is to say they wouldn't? |
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