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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
87
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Posted - 2013.11.26 18:36:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:mr musturd wrote:noob cavman wrote:Musturd!!! o/ you gonna be on later? Need some training on the knives For sure caveman, I should be on tonight. I've been running zn28s all week for the event. Ill mail you when I'm on and we'll squad and ill run you through my fits and help you with movement on the field but 1 rule no scanner please it alerts the red dots that they're being stalked Never run scanner on my minja fits so no problem there I don't run scanners period i'm the scanner.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From brother scout a kind message
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noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
218
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Posted - 2013.11.26 18:40:00 -
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I have a troll fit with a scanner and cores for ambush... reds like to gang up on a scout
My view on knives..... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IM DOING @_@
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
569
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Posted - 2013.11.26 18:41:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote: If i were foolish enough to weigh in on this subject I would say Drop the PG CPU of the Logi, and replace the Logi bonus with reduced PG CPU to equipment.
Why wouldnt you say "lose the extra slots"? Well, a few reasons really 1. it's easier to convince people something is reasonable if you change things rather than remove them. People generally get upset more if you take away something (militia BPOs)
2. Changing the bonus works two fold, it mitigates the reduction to PG CPU, while directing logi's towards a number of open roles
3. This change would mean having to make choices about what to put in the slots, not just armour and armour
4. reduced slots on the Logi would make it harder to point at and say we need more slots on scouts.
Really I have not given this a lot of thought, just intuitive impressions Someone would have to look at balancing numbers and what not for it to be viable.
Edited for readability
I am apparently not the only fool
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
428
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Posted - 2013.11.26 18:54:00 -
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Samantha Hunyz wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
To put it another way; it makes sense that ADV gear fails against proto suit+proto gear.
Switch to proto damage mods + proto sniper, then see how tough they are.
What a troll. An advanced weapon should be inferior than a proto suit, but even a basic AR prof 5 and 2 damage mods take down a proto logistics easily. A proto suit bearer shouldn't still be alive 12 sniper rounds later.
You make a poor argument. We already know AR >> ALL. So that is invalid.
You also dont give any data(?) to compare how a proto sniper weapon would have faired against the proto suit. You said you were only using ADV gear. If a proto sniper weapon (not including the Ishukone, because that.. .. that's just junk).. also failed against the suit, then there would be more legitimate cause for complaint.
Sounds like you're just sore that YOU couldnt take down the opponent, rather than giving a balanced look at the issue.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
368
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:01:00 -
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To implement a bonus to equipment would require a new role bonus for gallente logi. They already have that role bonus. The different logi needs role bonus TO their equipment but there are currently technical limitations that ccp haven't solved yet.
The truth is none of the role bonuses even provide that big of a benefit. So it's all about the fitting abilities of the suits, which is the root cause of the issues. That and the ability to stack so many tanking mods.
Scouts are really UP because the lack of pg/CPU and slots.
It's actually pretty rare people use a suit for its role bonus....and that's saying something.
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
Twitch
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Samantha Hunyz
Clones Of The Damned Zero-Day
23
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:01:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Samantha Hunyz wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
To put it another way; it makes sense that ADV gear fails against proto suit+proto gear.
Switch to proto damage mods + proto sniper, then see how tough they are.
What a troll. An advanced weapon should be inferior than a proto suit, but even a basic AR prof 5 and 2 damage mods take down a proto logistics easily. A proto suit bearer shouldn't still be alive 12 sniper rounds later. You make a poor argument. We already know AR >> ALL. So that is invalid. You also dont give any data(?) to compare how a proto sniper weapon would have faired against the proto suit. You said you were only using ADV gear. If a proto sniper weapon (not including the Ishukone, because that.. .. that's just junk).. also failed against the suit, then there would be more legitimate cause for complaint. Sounds like you're just sore that YOU couldnt take down the opponent, rather than giving a balanced look at the issue. Go on trolling, cause I already made my case but you conveniently left out my main points, so you are irrelevant to talk "facts" with. Any reply from you today or in the future will simply be ignored.
When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
121
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:06:00 -
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Both of you stop the scout on scout violence! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
569
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:08:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:To implement a bonus to equipment would require a new role bonus for gallente logi. They already have that role bonus. The different logi needs role bonus TO their equipment but there are currently technical limitations that ccp haven't solved yet.
The truth is none of the role bonuses even provide that big of a benefit. So it's all about the fitting abilities of the suits, which is the root cause of the issues. That and the ability to stack so many tanking mods.
Scouts are really UP because the lack of pg/CPU and slots.
It's actually pretty rare people use a suit for its role bonus....and that's saying something. Very good points
As to role bonuses for suits I really wish CCP had applied the bonus to the suits rather than the skillsGǪ then we could have suit variants with different bonusesGǪ
I am apparently not the only fool
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Grandmaster Taylor
PIanet Express
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:40:00 -
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Suggest Grand Master Kubo from Planet Express 30,000+ kills in Gallente Scout |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
575
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Posted - 2013.11.27 01:11:00 -
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It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that.
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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nathan scrapper-MY
Harimau Malaya.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:33:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:noob cavman wrote:Musturd!!! o/ you gonna be on later? Need some training on the knives For sure caveman, I should be on tonight. I've been running zn28s all week for the event. Ill mail you when I'm on and we'll squad and ill run you through my fits and help you with movement on the field but 1 rule no scanner please it alerts the red dots that they're being stalked
Majority of my nova kills were ignorant scanned redline snipers. They won't even bother to check their flank every now and then especially after being scanned. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
953
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:49:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:noob cavman wrote:Musturd!!! o/ you gonna be on later? Need some training on the knives For sure caveman, I should be on tonight. I've been running zn28s all week for the event. Ill mail you when I'm on and we'll squad and ill run you through my fits and help you with movement on the field but 1 rule no scanner please it alerts the red dots that they're being stalked
Are sure you haven't maxed out earning proto knives yet? If anyone could hit 1k Zn kills by now it'd have to be you. You should switch back to ishnoks and earn dem fancy pink suits to sell later. |
Cass Caul
369
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:51:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that.
That's what GD is all about. There are so many people that say things like Oswald posts, ways in which a single person would change things, are what CCP is actually doing
Doing that and poor math skills just annoy me so much
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
576
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Posted - 2013.11.27 03:06:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Llast 326 wrote:It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that. That's what GD is all about. There are so many people that say things like Oswald posts, ways in which a single person would change things, are what CCP is actually doing Doing that and poor math skills just annoy me so much I apologize in advance for my math
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
757
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Posted - 2013.11.27 03:11:00 -
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Man, I've been getting stomped especially hard for a monday, all in FW. Dang.... it's usually not a bad day to go solo but today it's been all about the proto logi + Duvolle (or Imperial) and tank stomp!
Also, I'm a fan of not switching Logi's to sidearms.... I agree it would just then focus community angst on speed tanked pistol weilding logis. Ugh. Honestly, it's the slots + CPU/PG + free armor rep in my opinion. |
J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
213
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:16:00 -
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You can nerf my cal logi all you want, I still have my SCOUT!...lolehhh
On another note, had to share with the lil scouts. One of the joys of squading up in the united channel. Played a game and got a... gg message i guess you could say after it from some proto cal logi. 31-0 sg scout XD SGVid XD
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Oswald Rehnquist
709
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:21:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Llast 326 wrote:It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that. That's what GD is all about. There are so many people that say things like Oswald posts, ways in which a single person would change things, are what CCP is actually doing Doing that and poor math skills just annoy me so much
lol, what did I do now?
I just stated that it would be cool to have a third side arm (1 light +2 sidearms), and this was off of a joke thread to begin with.
Below 28 dB
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
577
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:52:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:You can nerf my cal logi all you want, I still have my SCOUT!...lolehhh On another note, had to share with the lil scouts. One of the joys of squading up in the united channel. Played a game and got a... gg message i guess you could say after it from some proto cal logi. 31-0 sg scout XD SGVid XD
I am pretty sure you are among the ranks of players that we could put you in a Janitorial Dropsuit and you would still go minimum 28-0 equipped with a dustpan for a weapon. And damn i know I always say it, but i need to squad with people and i never remember to once I am on
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
681
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:55:00 -
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Hey shotty, if you want to do a whole Q & A thing with me about me running for CPM1 for the scouts in this thread just give me a heads up.
Im here for you my brothers.
Running for CPM1
Scout, Pilot, Logi, AV'r
Vote Delt!
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
757
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:03:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:You can nerf my cal logi all you want, I still have my SCOUT!...lolehhh On another note, had to share with the lil scouts. One of the joys of squading up in the united channel. Played a game and got a... gg message i guess you could say after it from some proto cal logi. 31-0 sg scout XD SGVid XD
Nice man.... looking forward to watching some scout wreckage during some slow time at work tonight!!
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
111
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:25:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:On another note, had to share with the lil scouts. One of the joys of squading up in the united channel. Played a game and got a... gg message i guess you could say after it from some proto cal logi. 31-0 sg scout XD SGVid XD
a perfect game / match. awesome
Pure Gallente
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Cass Caul
370
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:31:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Llast 326 wrote:It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that. That's what GD is all about. There are so many people that say things like Oswald posts, ways in which a single person would change things, are what CCP is actually doing Doing that and poor math skills just annoy me so much lol, what did I do now? I just stated that it would be cool to have a third side arm (1 light +2 sidearms), and this was off of a joke thread to begin with.
You make a lot of posts about how you'd rebalance or change things. You do it often enough that I notice. That's all. Essentially, someone is going to read your suggestion/desire and think it is actually something CCP is going to do. Even though there were no blue tags in your posts at all.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
933
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:55:00 -
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I'm taking a break from Dust.
For two reasons:
Reason 1: Finals. Yep. They will be here in two weeks.
Reason 2: I'm getting super pissed off by the game the last two days. I literally almost threw my controller against the wall. For the record, I have only thrown my controller once in all my years of FPS gaming, and that was playing this game. 700+ hours of BF3, and I didn't feel like throwing it even once. FFS, the last two days, I have only been able to get good scores by being suicidal and driving my death count up. Two games this week were I got 30 kills at the cost of 20 odd deaths. The proto stompers are out in full force, and I have had difficulty finding a good squad to play with. So I was forced to solo or play with randoms. All in all, not a very good few days, so I'm taking a break.
I think I'll just play a bunch of Tales of Xillia and Fallout: New Vegas until 1.7 drops. If 1.7 sucks and the CR sucks, I'm gonna aurum reset my character, put all of my AUR into passive boosters, pre-order Destiny, and wait until they freaking fix this game.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Oswald Rehnquist
713
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:56:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Llast 326 wrote:It's batshyte crazy out there in GDGǪ I thought the BPO thing was impressive but this one snowballed speculation and assumption into ?-+FACT-+ ?faster than that. That's what GD is all about. There are so many people that say things like Oswald posts, ways in which a single person would change things, are what CCP is actually doing Doing that and poor math skills just annoy me so much lol, what did I do now? I just stated that it would be cool to have a third side arm (1 light +2 sidearms), and this was off of a joke thread to begin with. You make a lot of posts about how you'd rebalance or change things. You do it often enough that I notice. That's all. Essentially, someone is going to read your suggestion/desire and think it is actually something CCP is going to do. Even though there were no blue tags in your posts at all.
I admit it is a guilty pleasure, and I plague most gaming communities with it, and if you can believe it I've had to hold my self back a bit, as I have literally wrote up how I would change every suit. I even have like 4 to 5 different ways I'd redo scouts alone.
Traditionally I"m not an fps player and more heavily into RTS, Strategy, Stealth, and action rpg, so I'm very prone to actually spending more time thinking game mechanics than actually playing.
Plus debating game mechanics is much more entertaining than using the forums as a form of social clique
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
824
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:51:00 -
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Adv gal logi was scanning *scan prevented*, I kept seeing him with my 2 complex range. I was watching which way he was looking by looking at my radar. I was behind cover. I saw how he wasn't scanning anymore and saw my opportunity when he had his back towards me. I sprinted out of cover for about 4 seconds...and knifed the bastard. He didn't see me coming.
Side note: I saw the most epic death. Guy was going to revive dude. I shot him during the revive animation, so he fell to his knees. He was on his knees for 3 seconds then he fell forward onto his dead comrade. |
mr musturd
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
129
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Posted - 2013.11.27 07:02:00 -
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mollerz wrote:mr musturd wrote:noob cavman wrote:Musturd!!! o/ you gonna be on later? Need some training on the knives For sure caveman, I should be on tonight. I've been running zn28s all week for the event. Ill mail you when I'm on and we'll squad and ill run you through my fits and help you with movement on the field but 1 rule no scanner please it alerts the red dots that they're being stalked Are sure you haven't maxed out earning proto knives yet? If anyone could hit 1k Zn kills by now it'd have to be you. You should switch back to ishnoks and earn dem fancy pink suits to sell later. i switched back to my ishkones tonight and im not even sure if i got 1k kills with the zn28s it was probley close but who knows |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
583
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:30:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm taking a break from Dust.
For two reasons:
Reason 1: Finals. Yep. They will be here in two weeks.
Reason 2: I'm getting super pissed off by the game the last two days. I literally almost threw my controller against the wall. For the record, I have only thrown my controller once in all my years of FPS gaming, and that was playing this game. 700+ hours of BF3, and I didn't feel like throwing it even once. FFS, the last two days, I have only been able to get good scores by being suicidal and driving my death count up. Two games this week were I got 30 kills at the cost of 20 odd deaths. The proto stompers are out in full force, and I have had difficulty finding a good squad to play with. So I was forced to solo or play with randoms. All in all, not a very good few days, so I'm taking a break.
I think I'll just play a bunch of Tales of Xillia and Fallout: New Vegas until 1.7 drops. If 1.7 sucks and the CR sucks, I'm gonna aurum reset my character, put all of my AUR into passive boosters, pre-order Destiny, and wait until they freaking fix this game. Good luck on the Finals
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
115
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:26:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Samantha Hunyz wrote:mr musturd wrote:Anyone else think the combat logi tears are extra sweet today? Heck yes. Since winter Carnage, I've realized how strong these suits are. They have been out in proto force sitting on op rep hives. prof 5, 2 damage mods, advanced tactical sniper. 3 shots and they are still alive, reload, and they are back to full armor. Rinse, repeat. Now that they will lose the sidearm, we need to push for scout only sniper rifles. They don't get side arms people are saying they should only carry side arms. Honestly I'm hoping they keep the light weapon, I don't need nerf scrambler pistol threads all over the forums because a logi is stacking damage mods and slaughtering people with my beloved pistol. Let em keep light weapons keep my skill shot weapon on the DL
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Cass Caul
371
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:20:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm taking a break from Dust.
For two reasons:
Reason 1: Finals. Yep. They will be here in two weeks.
I think I'll just play a bunch of Tales of Xillia and Fallout: New Vegas until 1.7 drops. If 1.7 sucks and the CR sucks, I'm gonna aurum reset my character, put all of my AUR into passive boosters, pre-order Destiny, and wait until they freaking fix this game.
A very good reason.
A very fun game! glad to know someone else appreciates teh Tales of Series. I love all of them.
Sorry you're getting proto-stomped, but I really can't sympathize. I rarely ever run into people that don't play in full proto for the entire match. The joys of matchmaking with 29M and my corp tags. Those are kind of the results that tell you that you either need: (A) new tactics (B) a new weapon or (C) a new suit.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
936
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:42:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm taking a break from Dust.
For two reasons:
Reason 1: Finals. Yep. They will be here in two weeks.
I think I'll just play a bunch of Tales of Xillia and Fallout: New Vegas until 1.7 drops. If 1.7 sucks and the CR sucks, I'm gonna aurum reset my character, put all of my AUR into passive boosters, pre-order Destiny, and wait until they freaking fix this game. A very fun game! glad to know someone else appreciates teh Tales of Series. I love all of them.
If you didn't know, you can get the collectors editions of Tales of Symphonia (Includes Dawn of the New World) next year.
They are making a remake of it for the PS3!
It also comes with chibi figurines lol
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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