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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:31:00 -
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Fyra Yacile wrote:60 Pages and no DEV has explained why they came to their dumb decision
.. And you expect us to believe that you listen to the community ...CPM= Useless DEVS = useless
I've learned that the CPM is far from useless. They are currently engaged in further negotiation and have pushed for the respec the entire time. Check the council chambers, they're on our side.
As for the DEVS, they can only post once they've been given the go ahead. The event is to keep us occupied while they sort things out. Negotiations aren't finished yet but at least a dropsuit respec has been confirmed.
It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
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Floyd20 Azizora
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
33
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:10:00 -
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wonder if the CPM are hammering home the point of 1.7. vehicle users got a full vehicle respec, giving them the option to spec out of vehicles altogether if they wanted to, whereas dropsuit users did not get this choice, and 1.8 is to dropsuits what 1.7 is to vehicles. at least we are getting the respec to the most crucial bit through. |
Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
43
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:11:00 -
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Dropsuit only respec? Are you kidding me? You are willing to give a respec for people to change to their preferred race's dropsuit, but what about the weapons? I had to invest in Gallente assault rifles because Caldari rail rifles didn't exist...where was my respect? I had to invest in scrambler pistols because rail pistols didn't exist...now no respect there either? If you are going to give respecs for dropsuits, then do it for every time new racial variants are released...and that includes the stuff already released without a respec.
1.8 needs a full respec or no respec, not this dropsuits only crap...if you give a full respec, then you can start doing the conditional ones in the future.
If you guys at CCP don't think this is a legitimate argument, then answer me this: what was I supposed to do...run around without a gun? Because if I recall correctly, that would be an invalid fitting. |
Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:16:00 -
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Floyd20 Azizora wrote:wonder if the CPM are hammering home the point of 1.7. vehicle users got a full vehicle respec, giving them the option to spec out of vehicles altogether if they wanted to, whereas dropsuit users did not get this choice, and 1.8 is to dropsuits what 1.7 is to vehicles. at least we are getting the respec to the most crucial bit through.
Don't even get me started on vehicles...
Swarms are crap, were only gonna have two grenades after 1.8, and with the shield recharges and armor gardeners even forge guns are pretty useless against tanks and dropships. Tanks and dropships need to be nerfed down badly. I'm tired of being in matches with 5 or 6 tanks on the field just eating infantry alive.
Oh and how many people do you think will be wanting another SP refund if and when COCO figures out how to implement pilot suits and the other racial vehicles... can't wait for that one. 
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.16 07:02:00 -
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Vaux Karn wrote:Dropsuit only respec? Are you kidding me? You are willing to give a respec for people to change to their preferred race's dropsuit, but what about the weapons? I had to invest in Gallente assault rifles because Caldari rail rifles didn't exist...where was my respect? I had to invest in scrambler pistols because rail pistols didn't exist...now no respect there either? If you are going to give respecs for dropsuits, then do it for every time new racial variants are released...and that includes the stuff already released without a respec.
1.8 needs a full respec or no respec, not this dropsuits only crap...if you give a full respec, then you can start doing the conditional ones in the future.
If you guys at CCP don't think this is a legitimate argument, then answer me this: what was I supposed to do...run around without a gun? Because if I recall correctly, that would be an invalid fitting.
Technically you don't have to have a sidearm for the fitting to valid. All you need is a light or heavy weapon depending on what suit you use and you're good to go.
But I understand if you would have liked to have a caldari pistol or Magsec SMG when it wasn't available.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Soozu
5o1st
187
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:10:00 -
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I am a paying customer. And if you are asking, then yes obviously I want a ******* respec. I paid, purchased, received, and now you yank it back and change it? For **** sakes....
Courtesy and manners alone dictate a full respec. Business practices demand it. And you can go **** yourselves if you don't.
Don't give a single **** what anyone else standing in the ******* line-up thinks of it either. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
571
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:12:00 -
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Just Dropsuit Command!? :(
That was much less than I expected. With the valid arguments about weapons and skills I really believed that there would be a better resolution from CCP about an expanded respec. I believed that the arguments could sway their thoughts on the matter. I was wrong.
I understand that they said that they would listen, but that does not mean that they would change anything about their planned actions. I don't like it.
Too often we believe that there is democracy in all things. In a perfect world perhaps, but in business, government, and entertainment this rarely holds the same value in the eyes of the decision makers as it does for the little people. It sucks, but that is life.
The Logi Code. The Way of the Logibro
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
117
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:37:00 -
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We should be entitled to both a weapon refund and dropsuit refund. The fact that the dropsuits have been given bonuses to specific weapons is enough of a reason to give people a chance to change into the race they prefers weapons. The people who were playing heavy might want to go assault or scout but will be left with skill points they dont need with a weapon they cant use. We don't need a dropsuit upgrades respec because: 1, any good logi would have attempted to get all the equipment to lvl 5 anyway. 2, every suit receives the bonuses that the upgrades to pg, cpu, health and movement speed provide. and 3, why are you not going to skill into an armour repair/ plate or shield extension just because your suit tanks one better? if you have a spare slot and you can fit something that can give you more HP you do it. having them skills is never going to be a hindrance. |
Klash 816
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
70
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:18:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:1, any good logi would have attempted to get all the equipment to lvl 5 anyway. 2, every suit receives the bonuses that the upgrades to pg, cpu, health and movement speed provide. and 3, why are you not going to skill into an armour repair/ plate or shield extension just because your suit tanks one better?.
1 because you don't want to be a logi anymore
2 an armor tank has no need for shield extenders if he runs damage mods
3 some people don't have 15mil SP to wast on shields and equipment when they want to run a gal heavy
^_^ full respec plz~
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
118
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Posted - 2014.03.17 06:05:00 -
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Klash 816 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:1, any good logi would have attempted to get all the equipment to lvl 5 anyway. 2, every suit receives the bonuses that the upgrades to pg, cpu, health and movement speed provide. and 3, why are you not going to skill into an armour repair/ plate or shield extension just because your suit tanks one better?. 1 because you don't want to be a logi anymore 2 an armor tank has no need for shield extenders if he runs damage mods 3 some people don't have 15mil SP to wast on shields and equipment when they want to run a gal heavy ^_^ full respec plz~
First off, damage mods are gonna be useless so putting and extra 72 hp onto a suit is a much better choice and armour tanks can always benefit from more hp, and no one is gonna stick to one suit forever, so the skills in dropsuit upgrades arent needed back. I know the heavy sentinels cant use equipment but the commando can.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
848
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Posted - 2014.03.17 11:24:00 -
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CCP gave us a partial respec. Not a full one like most people wanted, but we got one. Take your pound of flesh and leave them be.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Mors The Butcher
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
7
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:58:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:The game has a small playerbase so CCP should really just toss aside their "developing morales" and just give the respec.
Giving a respec makes people happy and able to deal with the game changes that are going to be big next update.
No respec is bringing Dust one step closer to failing... but hey! At least you can say "we never gave in!" and stuck with your guns and didn't give the players what they wanted. I am sure the other video game companies will give you a thumps up and say "good job! Who needs a game to actually have a decent amount of people playing it anyways?".
Look at the pros and cons but look at something very closely CCP. Will you go against what you want to do in order to help the players stay and give Dust more time?
making people happy is what got CCP in this mess in the first place you cant make everyone happy its a fact. i think we should just get a dropsuit command respect its more practical |
Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
155
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:50:00 -
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Klash 816 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:1, any good logi would have attempted to get all the equipment to lvl 5 anyway. 2, every suit receives the bonuses that the upgrades to pg, cpu, health and movement speed provide. and 3, why are you not going to skill into an armour repair/ plate or shield extension just because your suit tanks one better?. 1 because you don't want to be a logi anymore 2 an armor tank has no need for shield extenders if he runs damage mods 3 some people don't have 15mil SP to wast on shields and equipment when they want to run a gal heavy ^_^ full respec plz~
I am starting to understand why we the consumers are only receiving a partial reimbursement in skill points. If memory serves right, everyone obtained a full reimbursement in Uprising 1.0. So what did people and followers do with all of their points? They re-allocated them into Caldari Logistics (you know the 5H 4L 3E 390CPU and 78PG). That quickly became the god fit EVERYONE wanted to run due to how well it shield tanked and how fast it can regenerate. There were also people complaining about the suit, reason being is because they themselves were not running the fit but 75% wish that they did. CCP nerf it with a vast majority of the users wanting reimbursement of their skill points to which CCP said no.
To sum it up, CCP along side with CPM were trying to lessen the chances of there being some FOTM fit. Now some of you players will look at me as if I cussed out the queen of Britain in here face, follow me for a second with this example.
Say we did obtained a full reimbursement for infantry only (command, upgrades, and weapons), I have 25 million skill points lifetime along with having BPO's at my disposal (Dragonfly assault, scout, toxin SMG and AR). Playing it smart i could just run that suit for 2 weeks just to see what id popular to use. Next thing you know I found the king fit everyone loves to use and I can spend skill points right into it causing it to become a problem for everyone else who doesn't have as much skill points and such. This applies to anyone with 20+ million skill points with players having more than 30 million. Knowing this ask yourself the following questions:
- Do you really want the vets to have all of their skill points back in infantry they spend?
- Would this only help lessen the FOTM usage or make it worse?
- Are players wanting a reimbursement in their skill points only to run that FOTM fit?
- Are you yourself wanting to do the above question?
Also:
- Even if he chose not to be a Logistics user anymore, anything he spend into being a logistics user will still benefit him in any other suit of his choosing.
- Damage mods along with weapon proficiencies are getting hit hard. Weapon proficiency only applies to the weapon's strength against something. Example the AR will now have their proficiency do additional damage according to what the weapon does best in. In other words the proficiencies no longer give a flat bonus to damage for both shield and armor. You will only get one or the other depending on weapon type. Also damage mods will scale as 3/4/5 % instead of the usual 3/5/10 % everyone loves.
- True but Gallente Heavy tends to armor tank and shields will still help him out overall. Many players tend to overlook the drop suit armor/shield upgrades because they think it doesn't help in the long run. In all reality they do. I tell new players to get both Armor and Shield upgrades to level 5 ASAP (not to be confused with armor plating and shield extenders) since it helps with the suits base EHP. Same applies for core upgrades, electronics, and engineering. With time and proper spending they can hit this pretty soon. So not having 15 million skill points is not the greatest excuse to use (trust me from personal experience).
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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WarMachine88
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:50:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:CCP gave us a partial respec. Not a full one like most people wanted, but we got one. Take your pound of flesh and leave them be.
This why we should get another partial respect for least weapons with the confirmed suits respect. Due to the fact proficiencies being destroyed, I personally will only spec into them for the officer weapons. (Lvl 3) |
Mell caneva
Megadex-ESP
26
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Posted - 2014.03.18 00:20:00 -
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WarMachine88 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:CCP gave us a partial respec. Not a full one like most people wanted, but we got one. Take your pound of flesh and leave them be. This why we should get another partial respect for least weapons with the confirmed suits respect. Due to the fact proficiencies being destroyed, I personally will only spec into them for the officer weapons. (Lvl 3)
MAN, THEY DON'T GOING TO DO THAT, UNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOTHING TO CCP.
Regards :)
Yo no estoy loco, solo estoy demente.
Diario de Jhonatan (XBOXER091)
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LOSTDREAMS2580
Northwind Alliance
Dark Taboo
3
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Posted - 2014.03.18 00:52:00 -
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what do we have to grind for if every time ccp changes something for this game everyone cries out for a respec? how does these new balance items/nerfs/classes get to actually balance if everyone is just gonna respec into the next best thing till they get something else from ccp and then cry for another respec... me personally... i have spent enough time spec'n into the stuff and dont feel like doing it again... thats y i made other builds after my heavy... yes i am proto heavy and it affects me a lot having new heavy classes but u know what... everyone is just gonna speck into cloaks... i say let the grind begin... remember we all started the game and spec'd into stuff... we can do it again it gives us stuff to grind for. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
742
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:40:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:CCP gave us a partial respec. Not a full one like most people wanted, but we got one. Take your pound of flesh and leave them be.
The partial respec has to happen though. This is what it would have been:
CCP: "There are no refunds in 1.8. We have always stated that respecs/refunds are disruptive to the community as a whole and should be best to be avoided. It also means that SP matters, your choices matter."
Player: "I like playing Heavies. I like the big bulky dudes with big bulky guns. I also, no personal reasons, like the Minmatar. Kind of sad that I am stuck with an Amarr Sentinel."
CCP: "That was your choice to skill into it though."
Player: "Not really. When the choice is 'be an Amarr Heavy or not be a Heavy period', it wasn't a choice. Was I supposed to wait 10 months for the Minmatar Heavy to come out in order to not burn 3 million SP?"
That would be a very, very poor way of going about it. It was obvious that a Dropsuit Command respec was going to happen. Not doing it is how you truly alienate your base. Them not doing an Infantry respec is them just not taking our input not the CPM's imput. That is sad but it happened.
Stating "we got a respec like we wanted" would be like saying "my house is on fire but now it isn't but it is still a smoldering wreck. That's good because we wanted it to not be on fire anymore." |
demens grimwulff
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:41:00 -
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Hmmmm... thinking about the fact that CCP made a post similar to this makes me feel sick to my stomach... not because I blame CCP, but because it reinforces my belief that they are completely removed from their game. As discussed with Aeon Amadi, Heinrich, and a couple of times with Kain, my complaints with this game have always been rather simple... it does not seem that the devs have any clue what the players go through (i.e. the game experience, and how to play on a competitive level in this game). Why do I say this in this thread? Well, it is simple... tanks and assault dropships own the field in this game now. I came back after finally giving up on this game to do the 10 games required for this event, but every much I was in, one side had filled their vehicle slots with tanks and an assault dropship. Yet the new patch has yet to mention anything about the balancing of this (tankers now have weekly/monthly KDRs over 150 to 1... where they averaged about 20 before... how the f*** is that balanced?)... assault dropsuits are still way more expensive than tanks and the only effective weapon to defend against them is rather rare on the field for many many reasons (I am, of course, talking about Forge Gun). Time to kill among foot soldiers is also crazy, but in some situations, rather reasonable... so drastically decreasing the damage of weapons will mean small gang combat instead of 1v1s or a solo, viable soldier picking off the enemies from behind. The now small gangs are more susceptible to the tank traffic which is going unregulated, as AV is less likely to be pulled out, since the number of guns on each side needs to be high in order to win gun engagements. So then... how do I apply all of that to this thread, which is about a possible respec? Easy.. here is why I feel there should be a full respec of the first the trees (Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weapons):
1) Due to the addition of new suits and the massive changes going into all of them, Dropsuit command will be a completely different environment, meaning that the old skill points spent are worthless. The main reason why, is the new addition of 5 suits, as well as changing each logi radically, as well as changing the roles and abilities of each assault makes old choices worthless.
2) Due to the radical changes in the logi suits, the addition of the new scouts, and the changes made to the heavies, Dropsuit Upgrades should be respec'ed. Old choices will no longer apply in the new environment... if you are a Caldari Logi by nature, there might not be a need for Repair Tools; if you were a minmatar logi, what good is maintaining the hacking bonus? If you were once a scout because the idea of playing an Amarr heavy was to much for you, why would you need prototype kin-cats on your Gallente heavy? Amongst other things, I think Dropsuit Command and Dropsuit Upgrades should always be a hand-and-hand respec, as the requirements of each suit is now completely different than what they were.
3) Since each weapon is getting a damage decrease AND their proficiency changed to reflect each weapons strengths (i.e. Scrambler will have proficiency vs shields, combat/rail/assault rifles will have proficiency vs armor, etc.), the necessity in altering your play style to fit something you didn't INITIALLY sign up for will only affect the way one plays and their ability to enjoy this game. Even small changes like this will drastically alter the usage of weapons and what you'll see on the battlefield... but the discussion should be stopped at the fact that they are altering the way each individual weapon now performs... this is, in no-uncertain terms, a direct qualification for a respect.
Stop abusing the foot soldiers and at least through them a bone with some meat on it if you desire for them to continue to eat their dinner from the floor.
TL:DR
1) Dropsuits are being changed across the board and therefore require a Command respec
2) In order to keep the playing ground fair for those shy of massive SP, Dropsuit Upgrades should be respecced to allow tailoring towards the way the new dropsuits will play out
3) Since each weapon has received a massive nerf, as well as a play style change due to the alteration of proficiency, the weapons should be respeced too.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.18 05:24:00 -
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We'll all get what we get and like it.
I don't really care for a respec.
I'm quite happy with my choices.
If I want to skill into the new suits or weapons i'll grind and grind til I get them. It doesn't take that long to get advanced level sh** anyway.
If you get a respec this time, anytime new stuff comes out the masses will cry for another. (You know what happens when you give a mouse a cookie right?)
Endless SP is endless. So there's that...
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1609
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:11:00 -
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This thread is still here. The self entitlement is overflowing.
Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM
Lokun Listamenn
285
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:31:00 -
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So are we pacified by the 3 mil sp? (2 w/o booster. But if you didn't show your $upport for this game, even a little, then for shame.)
I want to say, "yes."
But I still have that feeling that my weapons and upgrade tiers will be gimped. I choose a suit when I stared playing in 1.6 based on the bonus. Now I am going to a suit that has shields, not armor. Also other things have changed. In 1.7 I didn't spec into a different weapon because it was more OP than the old ones, it was just the gun that matched how I play. The 3 mil is nice, but I would rather spend that growing my vehicle tree (main specialization) than readjusting for changed stats. it's a tough feeling to shake.
Some of you might not notice a difference and will feel just fine. I am one of the players that would need to spend a lot of SP to get to the same level of play I was at before 1.7 and soon to be 1.8.
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TTK II
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:21:00 -
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Respec is necessary. I have 15 million SP on one toon, and half of that will be rendered kinda useless after update.
Why not allow us to pay ISK for a respec whenever we want? Do it like DCUO, where the price increases each time you re-respec during a certain period of time (I think it's a month).
Example: It starts at say $100k for initial respec. If you respec again within a 30 day period, it goes up to say $250k, and so on. This way WE can control what we do with OUR SP.
Obviously, there would need to be a cap on the number of times you would be able to do this a month. Hell, I'd be happy with the option to only respec once a month & pay ISK for it. Wouldn't this be less of a headache for CCP as well? Instead of a system wide respec, each person could choose to/not to respec right from skills screen, like buying a Skill Book.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:17:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:This thread is still here. The self entitlement is overflowing.
No kidding. The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of a respec of any kind.
Too much could go wrong with everybody getting a full infantry respec and besides I would rather take pride in knowing that I earned the new suits and weapons, rather than getting a full respec and just having it handed to me for nothing.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:36:00 -
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TTK II wrote:Respec is necessary. I have 15 million SP on one toon, and half of that will be rendered kinda useless after update.
Why not allow us to pay ISK for a respec whenever we want? Do it like DCUO, where the price increases each time you re-respec during a certain period of time (I think it's a month).
Example: It starts at say $100k for initial respec. If you respec again within a 30 day period, it goes up to say $250k, and so on. This way WE can control what we do with OUR SP.
Obviously, there would need to be a cap on the number of times you would be able to do this a month. Hell, I'd be happy with the option to only respec once a month & pay ISK for it. Wouldn't this be less of a headache for CCP as well? Instead of a system wide respec, each person could choose to/not to respec right from skills screen, like buying a Skill Book.
Just a thought.
That's a terrible idea.
This game is based on choices you make. You spend all your SP on a build you like and then something else comes along and you want it but you don't have anymore SP, thats just TDB. You made your choice and have to live with it, thats the way CCP designed this game.
Letting people respec for ISK would make this game virtually unplayable. Think about it. It would just be FOTMfest for most people.
Why would you say that your build will be gimped after the update? Sure there are going to be some drawbacks to the changes that are being implemented, I for one don't agree with taking a grenade away from us, especially when tanks are still OP and now I'm down an AV nade. But this game is supposed to be about roles and racial parity and now CCP is implementing that and I believe we've been spoiled too long with roles overlapping (I.e. logistics basically being assault suits with extra equipment) and damage mods that can be stacked with weapon proficiency maxed out to just run around a map and rack up kills, this is why when they announced that weapons were getting nerfed, damage mods being decreased, and proficiency changed to reflect race and not flat dmg bonus it starts almost all of the community to QQ about it.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Klash 816
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
71
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:47:00 -
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Um... Are you guys really making multiple accounts just to make it seem like your biased is sheared by others? Or are you just some lowly scrub who only just now started posting on the forums because you heard that there were unicorns here?
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demens grimwulff
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.03.18 21:30:00 -
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Klash 816 wrote:Um... Are you guys really making multiple accounts just to make it seem like your biased is sheared by others? Or are you just some lowly scrub who only just now started posting on the forums because you heard that there were unicorns here?
Who are you...? I think you need a course in forum etiquette as this is not the war room.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
44
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:04:00 -
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I will chime in one more time to say this...I support respecs for items which did not have racial variants but now do and that is based off the fact that they are giving them for dropsuits.
I do not think it is right to say "Here's your SP back for your Amarr heavy, now you can switch to Minmatar like you wanted from day one!" and at the same time say "Oh but you are SOL on the weapons that you invested in when you still didn't have any choice on racial variants."
So...again...if they give a respec, it should cover ALL variants released since the last respec OR THERE shouldbe NO respec. I do not think that this is unreasonable, but to say "Give me a respec so that I can change my from logi to heavy because logi's aren't going to be killing machines anymore!" is kinda BS. |
Crashy Mc Boom-bewm
flame riders
10
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:15:00 -
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We deserve a full respec ccp(well for dropsuit, weapons, and equipment)!Every role for every suit has been changed out of the blue. Some suits now specialize in weapons that I can't skill into because I liked a different weapon , so now I'm stuck with a dilemma, do I get the suit that goes with my weapon, or do I get the suit that I want because of what I can equip on it? This isn't fair for everyone and the issue should be addressed. Even if we don't get the full respec I'll be fine, but others might not.
If at first it doesn't work, beat it with a brick.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:48:00 -
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Klash 816 wrote:Um... Are you guys really making multiple accounts just to make it seem like your biased is sheared by others? Or are you just some lowly scrub who only just now started posting on the forums because you heard that there were unicorns here?
Yes I'm just a scrub that came for the free unicorns, you got me.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:30:00 -
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I don't want a Full respec.
The Dropsuit Command refund is good enough - this is because it's going to be a much broader selection with the new suits, yes I know the weapons are being balanced too but I feel it's fair because of how limited the old suits where (especially heavies), and with ALL (pretty much) weapons being 'changed', there's no need for a full respec I feel.
Plus - I can't be bothered to carefully invest 23 Mil SP again, I'd rather just change which heavy suit I'm going to have potentially, and then decide if I still want my logi's and which one, or if I wanna go scout for a change..
I feel there is no need for a full respec, and CCP are being generous in offering us another attempt to change our suit specialisation.
I can haz all your Officer Heavy weapons?
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