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voidfaction Nos Nothi 1159	Posted - 2015.02.22 05:44:00 - [29641] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Encountered Min Assault running knives. All shields in highs, no need to evade, just head on rushed enemies and succeeded. I felt sick. It's uprising again. I thought we were trying to get away from the nerf buff cycle? Rattai is just repeating past mistakes but putting a prettier bow on it and so we're all convincing ourselves this is so much better. What have we actually got as a success since FF? I'm forgetting. We're coming up on a year since FF and I don't see the difference. But does that work in PC? My understanding is all balance is based off PC.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6830	Posted - 2015.02.22 05:57:00 - [29642] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Encountered Min Assault running knives. All shields in highs, no need to evade, just head on rushed enemies and succeeded. I felt sick. It's uprising again. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't somewhat concerned about the possibility of another Uprising 1.0 - 1.6. I recently read in GD something along the lines of "of course Assault suits are outselling/outperforming everything else, they're supposed to be because everything else is niche." What's alarming is that this sentiment isn't necessarily false. The question is, where do we draw the line? Should Assaults be 10% easier and more effective than everything else? 20%? Is a usage rate gap of 200% acceptable? How 'bout 300% or 500%? We've seen all of this before with the dominance of MedFrames and the AR in early Uprising. That said, Rattati is not Wolfman. We know for fact that he is highly attentive and responsive to the data. He's done good work with sidearm and rifle balance (excluding IoP). He's proven himself capable of parting sense from nonsense in the Forums. He speaks freely and openly with the Community about balance issues. He's done good work, and we've no reason to start doubting him now. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6830	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:05:00 - [29643] - Quote voidfaction wrote: But does that work in PC? My understanding is all balance is based off PC. Rumor has it that the MN Assault is now the go-to shotgun suit in PC. Having run it for a few days myself, I don't doubt these claims. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15706	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:10:00 - [29644] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Encountered Min Assault running knives. All shields in highs, no need to evade, just head on rushed enemies and succeeded. I felt sick I thought we were trying to get away from the nerf buff cycle? Rattai is just repeating past mistakes but putting a prettier bow on it and so we're all convincing ourselves this is so much better. What have we actually got as a success since FF? I'm forgetting. We're coming up on a year since FF and I don't see the difference. He succeeded because he was slicing scrubs. Any decent player (or even semi-scrub with a Scrambler or Assault Rifle) would have easily killed that guy before he reached him. Though I agree, besides V/AV and Assaults the differences between Fallout 2014 and now are minimal. @void - MinAssault works great in PC. Rushing enemies head on with Nova Knives with it however, does not. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9867	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:12:00 - [29645] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: VAHZZ wrote: And I don't know what I'm running yet, getting a respec and plan as I go. Highly recommend MN Assault. Best Scout available. GA Assault is another good option. I'm prepared to be burned at the torch for this. If you honestly believe that the Min Assault and Gal Assault are better "Scouts" than what is available; then you have never really been a scout in the first place. They are better SLAYING suits. In an equal playing field with no eWAR, these suits are fantastically better at surviveability and damage dealing. Take the Min Assault for example. It's fast, tanky, and has a bonus to make it better at dealing out punishment. It is a premier SKIRMISHING suit. Gal Assault is a freaking brawler suit. It has lots of HP, constant reps, damage mods, and a bonus that lets you hipfire all day long. However, both of these suits fail at the one thing that makes scouts shine. AVOIDING SCANS. Assaults need 2 Damps to be adequately damped. At 23 dB, the only thing scanning you reliably will be Gallente Scans and med range scout scans. On almost every suit though, you will lose tank/regen/speed. Gal Assault can only really get 475 armor and 10 rep/s. Min Assault can still be fast and tanky, but you lose regen, having no armor and a horrid 6s shield delay. Not only that, but they all fail in PC when trying to be a "Scout". You will be scanned. Period. However, if your idea of "Scouting" is running around in a fast slaying suit, then go ahead. Min Assault with a shotgun is actually pretty decent in PC against teams that don't scan properly. A SCOUT however, excels in avoiding scans and maintaining speed/regen, and still having a decent tank for its speed and hitbox. One of my favorite ways to play scout in PC is a Gal Scout with 2x damps, 2x speed and Uplinks. You are almost impossible to scan due to sheer speed (Focused can't hit you very well) and you can easily plant uplinks in prime locations. 2x Damp min scout with a kincat is great at quickly covering ground and hacking objectives. I also use this suit with a cloak and uplinks to do the exact same thing as the other suit, except I can quickly get in and hack the objective faster. Powerful short range passive scans let you scan almost anything around a corner. A single precision lights up any med frame not running 2x damps, and is invaluable at picking up when something is turning the corner to meet you. Most importantly, you are great at picking up equipment in a large radius. All of this combines to create the massive difference in Scouts and Assaults that we have in today's PC meta. SCOUTS are used only in ones or twos in PC now. Much like the old days. Our job is to lay uplinks behind enemy lines, remove uplinks/equipment, and use dampening to punish those who rely too much on scanning. ASSAULTS are used as a slayer class. They run in the group, using their speed and tank to quickly engage and kill enemy targets on the battlefield. They are powerful and versatile, but weak in eWAR without modifications. You supply them with external eWAR, in the form of scanners to create powerful offensive forces. Hence the Meta. Assaults will kill any scout they see in a 1v1 outside of CQC range. To avoid this, they dampen, and flank constantly, often removing the logistics units supplying the scans for the team, creating an advantage for their team. Since a lone, undamped scout can actually cause quite a bit of havoc with their speed and alpha, they can't be unaccounted for. Enemy scouts will attempt to routinely cover their teams six when possible, and help chase down fleeing scouts, when not performing their own duties. TL;DR If you think Gal and Min Assaults are better scouts, you're actually just a slayer in disguise. Go get an assault suit and play like an assault. Let the scouts stay in their suit and do their job: Removing uplinks/equipment, solo hacking lightly guarded objectives and punishing people who rely too much on scanning. /rant Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6832	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:13:00 - [29646] - Quote Atiim wrote: ... the differences between Fallout 2014 and now are minimal. Does no one remember the 1.8 Scout? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6832	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:20:00 - [29647] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm prepared to be burned at the torch for this. [snip] Why? All good feedback. Completely agree as it relates to PC. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9869	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:24:00 - [29648] - Quote You know what? Rant not over. Remember everyone's cries after the OP Scout build? "Get rid of the assault scout! Let the slayers go into their assault suits!" Now you guys are saying "Everyone go into the assault suits, they're better scouts than scouts are!" BS. They just got put back into their previous position, and everyone still wants to grab their scout and go grab 20+ kills in PC / Pubs. People who pulled 20+ kills in Pubs with a scout suit used to be freaking rare. A person like that was a god at quickly engaging, killing, and disengaging a single target with RAPID SPEED. They could almost run circles around teams that weren't communicating effectively or scanning properly. Now it just seems like everyone feels entitled to the same offensive power that they used to have, even though that power was something that we all agreed that we SHOULDN'T HAVE. I'm not afraid to say it. I have 2 Proto Assault suits. And they are FANTASTIC at killing people. I don't pull out my scout suit when I want to push people off the objective. I grab my Gal Assault, stick my AR in their face and tell them to leave or die. I DO pull out my scout when I notice that they are all running around pell mell all scattered about. Then I go and pick them apart one by one and go hack everything they love and hold dear. Or when I notice that the front line doesn't need my help, and I instead want to focus on removing their ability to zerg the point over and over with links. My scout suits aren't slaying suits anymore, and all is right in the world. If you still think that you need the Gal/Min assault to scout, wake up and smell the roses. You don't want to scout. You want to rip peoples faces off with a shotgun. And that's completely okay. Grab the assault suit and be happy. Just don't call it a "Scout", as you would only be lying to yourself. /rant for real this time. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9869	Posted - 2015.02.22 06:27:00 - [29649] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm prepared to be burned at the torch for this. [snip] Why? All good feedback. Completely agree as it relates to PC. You'd be surprised. People act funny when you tell them their entire playstyle is wrong and they should switch. To be honest, I said the same thing to Gav after the 1.8 changes. I told him that he wanted to be a Min Assault, not a scout. All he wanted to do was run up and shotgun people to death. After a long time, and much rage, he finally switched, deeming the Min Scout useless. He now has a Min Assault and shotgun, and he couldn't be happier. Not only that, but now he brings out his min scout with a different mindset. And all is right in the world. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1159	Posted - 2015.02.22 07:25:00 - [29650] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm prepared to be burned at the torch for this. [snip] Why? All good feedback. Completely agree as it relates to PC. You'd be surprised. People act funny when you tell them their entire playstyle is wrong and they should switch. To be honest, I said the same thing to Gav after the 1.8 changes. I told him that he wanted to be a Min Assault, not a scout. All he wanted to do was run up and shotgun people to death. After a long time, and much rage, he finally switched, deeming the Min Scout useless. He now has a Min Assault and shotgun, and he couldn't be happier. Not only that, but now he brings out his min scout with a different mindset. And all is right in the world. So am I safe to say I am a scout then even though I do not use shotguns, NK's or speed tank? LOL.

Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2383	Posted - 2015.02.22 08:27:00 - [29651] - Quote Not going to burn you Ghost because your arguments have merit. You may be pointing out some fallacies and unstated premises in our posts. For starters, maybe shotguns and nova knives should be viable assault weapons. We'll bang, OK?
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1811	Posted - 2015.02.22 09:01:00 - [29652] - Quote I agree with most of your points Ghost, but the one thing I take issue with is the idea that scouts can't be slayer suits. Too often I see people get caught up on the name "scout" and use that to base their assumptions on what the scout's role should be. Scouts are slayers just like assaults, sentinels and commandos are. They're a different kind of slayer, sure, but a slayer nonetheless. Hell, I would even consider logis to be slayers in a sense, just with an aptitude for support. There hasn't been a purely support-oriented class in Dust yet. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1811	Posted - 2015.02.22 09:27:00 - [29653] - Quote On an unrelated note, I cooked up a fit I call "Streaker" (so called because it's naked and it runs fast) It's an M-1 scout with nothing double complex kincats, proto knives, std flaylock and a single basic shield extender. 40/41 PG, 23k ISK, and it lets me run 10.38 m/s on a knifing fit without having to worry about the cost. It's tough running a knife fit without a cloak but the speed helps make up for it. It's been my go-to knifing fit for some time now, too much fun. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7712	Posted - 2015.02.22 09:51:00 - [29654] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: I agree with most of your points Ghost, but the one thing I take issue with is the idea that scouts can't be slayer suits. Too often I see people get caught up on the name "scout" and use that to base their assumptions on what the scout's role should be. Scouts are slayers just like assaults, sentinels and commandos are. They're a different kind of slayer, sure, but a slayer nonetheless. Hell, I would even consider logis to be slayers in a sense, just with an aptitude for support. There hasn't been a purely support-oriented class in Dust yet. Agreed, look up the meaning of some of the roles in dust and half of them don't play as they should, people are far too fixated on the class names rather than how they actually preform on the battlefield. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 22233	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:13:00 - [29655] - Quote Spademan wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: skis off side of mountain Welp, I have plenty of time to write long threads now. So which mountain did you break an arm/leg/spine on? 'Mountain of the moon' in Italy. Near France, actually. One ski came off and for some reason instead of deciding to try and control my wipe out I sat down on the remaining ski and flew off piste. 11/10 pro skiing would break leg again. What kind of madness leads to making a sandwich with a rail rifle?
Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2383	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:13:00 - [29656] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I agree with most of your points Ghost, but the one thing I take issue with is the idea that scouts can't be slayer suits. Too often I see people get caught up on the name "scout" and use that to base their assumptions on what the scout's role should be. Scouts are slayers just like assaults, sentinels and commandos are. They're a different kind of slayer, sure, but a slayer nonetheless. Hell, I would even consider logis to be slayers in a sense, just with an aptitude for support. There hasn't been a purely support-oriented class in Dust yet. Agreed, look up the meaning of some of the roles in dust and half of them don't play as they should, people are far too fixated on the class names rather than how they actually preform on the battlefield. Agreed. Despite claims to the contrary my Commando is wearing pants. We'll bang, OK?
Varoth Drac State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 587	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:40:00 - [29657] - Quote I mostly agree with Ghost. It's great that assaults are effective at shotgun slaying now, putting scouts back as stealth and strategic, high mobility units. As far as dampening goes, I think a triple damped min assault would be quite similar in ability to a Galente scout. Also, does a Galente scout really need 2 damps? Doesn't 1 hide you from scans? What really distinguishes the two is the cloak. Now, as for cloaks. I do think that, considering the nerfs to dampening, scanning, duration and crucially delay, they could do with a buff. Especially as the defining feature of a scout suit (with the option of swapping for a different 2nd piece of equipmient). I think the cloak changes were necessary to stop them being tools to gank people, but they are just not effective enough for crossing open terrain, which is now a crucial use for them. It's not a major issue, but I do feel that reducing the cloak shimmer would bring us even closer to balance. I would be a very happy scout, and I think we would be balanced. I'm not commenting on Amarr scouts by the way.
Spademan Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5913	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:51:00 - [29658] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Encountered Min Assault running knives. All shields in highs, no need to evade, just head on rushed enemies and succeeded. I felt sick. It's uprising again. I thought we were trying to get away from the nerf buff cycle? Rattai is just repeating past mistakes but putting a prettier bow on it and so we're all convincing ourselves this is so much better. What have we actually got as a success since FF? I'm forgetting. We're coming up on a year since FF and I don't see the difference. But the weird thing is that the Min Assault hasn't been buffed for a long time. Last time was the classwide buff I think. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1812	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:16:00 - [29659] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Encountered Min Assault running knives. All shields in highs, no need to evade, just head on rushed enemies and succeeded. I felt sick. It's uprising again. I thought we were trying to get away from the nerf buff cycle? Rattai is just repeating past mistakes but putting a prettier bow on it and so we're all convincing ourselves this is so much better. What have we actually got as a success since FF? I'm forgetting. We're coming up on a year since FF and I don't see the difference. Meant to reply to this earlier: But it IS so much better. Sorry if this is too blunt, but you'd have to be a fool to think otherwise. Rattati has so much more control over the game than Wolfman and the original team ever did. I'm confident that if anything - and I mean anything - came even close to being as imbalanced as things were in the post-Uprising days, Rattati would have it hotfixed within a week or two. And that's much more than you could say of back then. Min assaults are strong, yes, but they aren't broken. Every single weapon in this game (barring a few exceptions for weapon subtypes) is viable and fun. There are no major weapon standouts, like the lasers, mass drivers and Tac ARs of lore. Tanks and dropships are under control. Do you remember when ambush was nothing but 50-0 tanks? Because I do. And boy am I glad that's a thing of the past. Nerf/buff cycles are a constant in continuously-developed online games like this. It's gonna happen for as long as Dust is in development, and that's okay. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1514	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:25:00 - [29660] - Quote Spademan wrote: But the weird thing is that the Min Assault hasn't been buffed for a long time. Last time was the classwide buff I think. The MN Assault got a whopping +15 eHP in Hotfix Delta. And that was almost 4 months ago. pé¿pâûpé¦pü»pé¦pé¡pâúpâ¦péÆs½îpüúpüªpüäpéïpÇé wwwwwwwwwww

Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2385	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:29:00 - [29661] - Quote It takes months to discover something like that and then skill into it. The scout problem of 1.8 got exacerbated by the respec. This trend is taking longer to catch on. And it's the number of mods that has been the largest overall buff. We'll bang, OK?
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1815	Posted - 2015.02.22 12:32:00 - [29662] - Quote I also wish they would talk about the future of Dust/Legion, but you have to take the bad with the good. I expect an announcement regarding the fate of Legion is inevitable, and at that point whatever happens happens. I like to take things day by day. All I care about right now is the state of Dust 514, and in my eyes it's been doing great, so I can't complain. Re: Monetization, it can be a tiny bit annoying but I'm not bothered by it. Strongboxes are currently quite fun, the color variety in dropsuits is a welcome break from the drab monotony of greys, brown greys, blue greys and yellow grays that existed previously. Daily missions are a neat little bonus, NPC reselling is nice, and I actually like the warbarge. Sure it's grindy, but there's something nice about the routine of logging in to collect components. It's actually driven me to play more. I can definitely see why having to log in semi-daily is annoying for some though, I wish they had given you a bigger capacity for storage so you don't have to log in as often. But it's a feature designed to get people to log in more often, so I guess that's how it's gonna stay. The thing about the monetization though, is that from CCP's perspective it's actually long overdue. For a F2P game Dust had shockingly few monetization options prior to Fanfest 2014, and I can definitely see that as being a factor in Dust encountering turbulence from upper management. I imagine one of the big reasons Rouge was brought in was because Dust's monetization systems needed extensive work in order for it to become profitable. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
TritusX PH4NT0M5 306	Posted - 2015.02.22 15:18:00 - [29663] - Quote So, after playing for 4 hours last night, running a 35k ADV knife suit and 29k SG suit, I think I won't respec. I am already getting the merc pack, and instead of getting a respec, I'll probably get like a sever logistics, some min scout bpo, and boosters Killer of Grand Master Kubo by a shotgun, Gav by a BAR, and countless others
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6833	Posted - 2015.02.22 15:25:00 - [29664] - Quote TritusX wrote: So, after playing for 4 hours last night, running a 35k ADV knife suit and 29k SG suit, I think I won't respec. I am already getting the merc pack, and instead of getting a respec, I'll probably get like a sever logistics, some min scout bpo, and boosters If you don't play alot, the passive boosters will be more helpful than the active. If I recall correctly, the merc pack includes a couple boosters. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7713	Posted - 2015.02.22 15:38:00 - [29665] - Quote TritusX wrote: So, after playing for 4 hours last night, running a 35k ADV knife suit and 29k SG suit, I think I won't respec. I am already getting the merc pack, and instead of getting a respec, I'll probably get like a sever logistics, some min scout bpo, and boosters I may find a American psn card for a respected, if only to get my sp out of unused or now useless gear. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7963	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:00:00 - [29666] - Quote @ Ghost While I differ to your expertise in PC and believe that you are correct in your analysis, it isn't the ONLY game mode. While Assaults may not be able to out scout Scouts in PC, they sure as hell do in Pubs. Mostly scans are not so significant that Assaults can't dampen up enough to beat them, and if the other team does happen to pull out the Gal Logi with proto scanner (as I have unfortunately seen on occasion), the ISK incentives to win are nowhere significant enough to pull out a max dampened Mk.0. Its not economically viable. So if you are going to get scanned (and you will), you may as well do it in a MinAss that has got some junk in the trunk rather than a 200 HP Minja who only wants to hack some points and help his team win. I get balancing around PC, and I think its important, but I think if we stop there and say that is good enough than what ends up happening is the alienation of a significant portion of the population. Surely there must be a way to make Assaults less scoutly in all situations and not just PC. Pseudogenesis wrote: On an unrelated note, I cooked up a fit I call "Streaker" (so called because it's naked and it runs fast) It's an M-1 scout with nothing double complex kincats, proto knives, std flaylock and a single basic shield extender. 40/41 PG, 23k ISK, and it lets me run 10.38 m/s on a knifing fit without having to worry about the cost. It's tough running without a cloak but the speed helps make up for it. It's been my go-to knifing fit for some time now, too much fun. I am pretty sure I have run this fit, or something very, very close to it. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9876	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:16:00 - [29667] - Quote That's because nobody scans or damps properly in pubs. eWAR is removed from pubs 9/10 times. Remember what I said earlier? Without eWAR, scouts are almost useless to run. Think if it this way, you don't bring AV out if there aren't any tanks. You don't bring a scout out unless there is a reason too. It's a specialized suit. You can still run it, but expect to have not much to do that round. Just play careful and do your job when you can Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Murt Lesp Leviathan Battalion 200	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:23:00 - [29668] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: That's because nobody scans or damps properly in pubs. eWAR is removed from pubs 9/10 times. Remember what I said earlier? Without eWAR, scouts are almost useless to run. Think if it this way, you don't bring AV out if there aren't any tanks. You don't bring a scout out unless there is a reason too. It's a specialized suit. You can still run it, but expect to have not much to do that round. Just play careful and do your job when you can Want to know why people hate PC corps in pubs? It because we know how to shut down people who can't adapt. We bring scans and watch everyone run around trying to make that scout assault work. Smart ones pull out the damp fit and get to work This is why I went back to my Logi roots. I've only played in pub matches because I honestly fear trying PC or FW. As a scout I was either always scanned by Gal Logis or unable to earn back the isk I was losing. As much as the "build your own class" mentality exists, there are dedicated roles for each suit and in some cases race. Any advice for one who wants to try FW or PC as a "Scout in training"? The Leviathan has Awoken and it hungers Logi forever Scout in training
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6836	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:32:00 - [29669] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Want to know why people hate PC corps in pubs? It because we know how to shut down people who can't adapt. I think there might be other reasons why people hate getting steamrolled by protostompers. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15257	Posted - 2015.02.22 17:51:00 - [29670] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Want to know why people hate PC corps in pubs? It because we know how to shut down people who can't adapt. Might there be other reasons why people hate getting steamrolled in lopsided matches? It's the easiest to avoid being steamrolled in a scout suit. Without scans on you, you can wreak havoc. That's what I do in those matches, no point to bringing out an Assault that will be ganked by the entire squad. Often I just avoid engaging and just run around at high speed and hack everything using a codebreaker. This forces them to split up for defense, giving my team a chance. This also makes them a perfect target for a shotgun to the back, though sadly I can only fit a standard shotgun on this suit. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*



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