Might there be other reasons why people hate getting steamrolled in lopsided matches?

There is. I'm addressing root cause. We run Proto because our tactics are so effective, we rarely die.

I wouldn't run Proto if I couldn't pull a profit

Want to know why people hate PC corps in pubs? It because we know how to shut down people who can't adapt.

Bear that in mind when the Dust servers are finally shut down for inactivity.
You can feel free to be as smug about it as you like, but in the end you'll be doing it on your own.
I was part of the PC squads a while back. I know what you mean but that's just the wrong attitude to take.

Dust blows through a shocking number of players, even Rattati has admitted this. In the end there simply won't be enough potential players to support this unsustainable practise.

Even EVE has high sec.

Tactics and so on are fine but paired with maxed out fits and lopsided match making it creates steamrolls.

So hopefully the tier locked matches will be interesting.

Bear that in mind when the Dust servers are finally shut down for inactivity.
You can feel free to be as smug about it as you like, but in the end you'll be doing it on your own.
I was part of the PC squads a while back. I know what you mean but that's just the wrong attitude to take.

Dust blows through a shocking number of players, even Rattati has admitted this. In the end there simply won't be enough potential players to support this unsustainable practise.

Even EVE has high sec.

Tactics and so on are fine but paired with maxed out fits and lopsided match making it creates steamrolls.

So hopefully the tier locked matches will be interesting.

I'm all for better matchmaking. What I would love is a PC version of pubs, where FF is turned on, payouts are much higher and gear locked to ADV or Proto.

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But then factional will have even longer wait times due to the already low player base we'vs gotten because this problem has gone unanswered for so long.

It's a specialized suit. You can still run it, but expect to have not much to do that round. Just play careful and do your job when you can

*Do excuse my Sunday grumpiness.

That's because nobody scans or damps properly in pubs.

eWAR is removed from pubs 9/10 times. Remember what I said earlier? Without eWAR, scouts are almost useless to run.

Think if it this way, you don't bring AV out if there aren't any tanks. You don't bring a scout out unless there is a reason too.

It's a specialized suit. You can still run it, but expect to have not much to do that round. Just play careful and do your job when you can

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Want to know why people hate PC corps in pubs? It because we know how to shut down people who can't adapt.

We bring scans and watch everyone run around trying to make that scout assault work. Smart ones pull out the damp fit and get to work

Is that how PC matches are?

Does no one remember the 1.8 Scout?

I hate PC corps in pubs because they are all running fotm proto min assaults. Funny in pubs a lot of those that you say can't adapt don't have the skills to dampen, see proto uplinks on rooftops, run proto 24/7 and most of all run min assault like everyone is on the PC corp proto stomping them. PC corps think they are so good when they are nothing but exploiters of whatever is FOTM and proto stomping pubs. That is not adapting or being better in a pub match.

Funny I can bring proto scans and the pc corps in pubs do not dampen they just keep spamming proto min assaults while spamming uplinks on every rooftop. Is that how PC matches are?

Top Tier meta hasn't changed in awhile.

Put links down on the ground in defendable places. Roof links are not viable if you don't have total air superiority.

Be able to rotate FAST between objectives on bridge map.

Scans will save you from fast Min Assaults.

Heavy Spam CQC objectives. City is largely determined by who brings the best heavies. Watching 4 FA heavies with Logi support was glorious, they would tear through 6-8 heavies in a single push.

Scouts kill every damn link they find. Flux ones in hard to reach places. KILL LOGIS

ADS Support is pivotal. Combine with a tank or two for outside points, and you have a tough mobile team.

Most tactics revolve around defending objectives with an iron wall, and protecting your own spawn system, while removing the enemies.

A good push into city will cap both objectives, and kill the enemy team, along with links. IF they have Air Superiority, they can keep jumping down from roofs. If not, they are pushed out, and will probably crash the outside objectives if playing bridge.

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The only corp that I have seen SPAMMING Min Assault is OH. Played em last night, held a solid 3 cap all game long. Scans really helped negate overall effectiveness on the outside objectives.

As for the underlined, you just proved my point. I just told you the counter to the FOTM. It's powerful scans. A good team of equal skill can easily counter that Min Assault spam with good, sustained scans. It doesn't have the eHP to survive getting prefired around corners 24/7.

The problem is the fact that the people in pubs just aren't on the same skill level as most PC corps.

Take for example a PC corp that I love. Dead Mans Game.

Dead Mans Game has SOLID tactics and teamwork. They have better synergy than 80% of the teams in PC. The reason why they aren't as strong as the rest is a severe lack of slay power.

I remember playing them in FA, we held city with 4 people. Derrith ran ADS, with 1 scanner in the city and Jigoku and Myself running scout.

We held city by OURSELVES. They sent 8 people there and couldn't hold the objectives. Not because of lack of talent or lack of counters. They made all the right moves.

They just couldn't slay us. Even at disadvantage, we destroyed them with gun game and skill. Sometimes, there are hurdles that tactics won't let you jump.

Everybody get's 1 day when their attitude is excusable. Dibs on Tuesday

I call the days that end in "y"

Ghost, what would you suggest to "fix" pubs?

Stealing this from some1.
Warbarge components in FW in combination with the LP.
I'd play the hell outta that