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jace silencerww wrote:

Vitantur Nothus wrote:

@ Scouts

With Passive Scans as they are today and Active Scans the forte of another, tomorrow's Scout will be less about scouting and more about sneaking, shenanigans and assassination. All far more fun and rewarding than recon, so you'll hear no complaints from me :-)

If tomorrow's Scouts are to become more like Assassins, shouldn't each have a knife to call his own?

>>> http://i.imgur.com/IeaUIzU.jpg <<<

And how might each of these beauties behave?

Uncharged Attack
Each exactly the same. Because Knife Duels are badass, and they're better this way.

Minmatar, Charged Attack
* Today's blades in Min skin
* Equal damage to armor and shields
* The hardest and most reliable option
* "Don't touch my knives, bro." - Musturd

Amarr, Charged Attack
* Four fast slashes
* Quick to charge
* Slight stunlock on hit
* Massive damage to armor; negligible damage to shields
* Inspiration: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry_of_blows

Gallente, Charged Attack
* Perfectly silent and longer range
* Quick to charge
* Massive damage to shields; negligible damage to armor
* Inspiration: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/High-frequency_blade

Caldari, Charged Attack
* Ballistic knives, mothatruckahs!
* Slow to charge
* One projectile fired per charge; total "ammo" of two
* Projectiles regenerate after cooldown
* Equal damage to armor and shields
* Inspiration: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistic_Knife

Fun, right? What would you guys like to see in future knives?

like it but CCP Rattati wants to use in game stuff so no new mechanics. I know they have the designs of each of the knives and they could change the number of hits, charge speed and damage. if CCP does bring out the knives I think each scout should get a bonus to their knives however then the Minnie would need 1 new bonus. I vote a reduction to kin cats cpu/pg.... well at less pg maybe 1 pg for basic, 2 pg on adv and 3 for complex. this way on a proto suit could get 3-9 pg back for shield extenders or better weapons.

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sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1980	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:16:00 - [26641] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Speedy suit. Damage/Range bonus to their own knives maybe. (Maybe 1-2m or 70Dmg.) n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 357 boxes...0 keys
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1251	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:17:00 - [26642] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? These are the hardest hitting of them all. If you're looking for quick takedown and reliable OHK, these are the best bet.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5852	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:17:00 - [26643] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts MOAR Ladders
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1983	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:20:00 - [26644] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts But I wreck people in my caldari scout! Look at my cold, feeling less face as the void feeling comes. Slash, Slash. +50 Slash, Bang +50 Either way, I love it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 357 boxes...0 keys
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5852	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:26:00 - [26645] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts But I wreck people in my caldari scout! Look at my cold, feeling less face as the void feeling comes. Slash, Slash. +50 Slash, Bang +50 Either way, I love it. I've knifed in every scout suit, and the Militia Min SentGÇª They all can workGÇª but nothing is mor fun than rusty one eyed speed running with basic HP MOAR Ladders
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6689	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:30:00 - [26646] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts But I wreck people in my caldari scout! Look at my cold, feeling less face as the void feeling comes. Slash, Slash. +50 Slash, Bang +50 Either way, I love it. I've knifed in every scout suit, and the Militia Min SentGÇª They all can workGÇª but nothing is mor fun than rusty one eyed speed running with basic HP I must be doing something wrong, because I have found it increasingly frustrating. And now with RE changes, I don't even know I want to log on and give the new hotfix a try. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1252	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:40:00 - [26647] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts Not trying to detract from the MinScout, brothers! Racial knives are only one piece of the puzzle. There's more to come ... MN is master of blades and hacks; innate damage bonus to all knife types; efficacy bonus to CBs. CA is the scoutly scout; innate bonus unchanged; efficacy bonus to precision and range modules. GA is the infiltrator; innate bonus to cloak duration and cooldown; efficacy bonus to damps. AM is the kite; innate bonus to stamina; efficacy bonus to biotics. * Requires Range Extenders to be moved to high slot. MN Scout - "While cloaked" bonus greatly reduces scan profile. CA Scout - "While cloaked" bonus counters the effect of cloak-blind. GA Scout - "While cloaked" bonus accelerates armor regen. AM Scout - "While cloaked" cloak bonus increases land speed. Love? Hate? Indifferent?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5854	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:41:00 - [26648] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Llast 326 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts But I wreck people in my caldari scout! Look at my cold, feeling less face as the void feeling comes. Slash, Slash. +50 Slash, Bang +50 Either way, I love it. I've knifed in every scout suit, and the Militia Min SentGÇª They all can workGÇª but nothing is mor fun than rusty one eyed speed running with basic HP I must be doing something wrong, because I have found it increasingly frustrating. And now with RE changes, I don't even know I want to log on and give the new hotfix a try. You and I need to squad mic or no mic we should just run like nuts together MOAR Ladders
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6689	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:47:00 - [26649] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: So what would be the point in ever running Minmatar except as the occasional speed hacking suit? Same as now Just being more Badass than the other scouts Not trying to detract from the MinScout, brothers! Racial knives are only one piece of the puzzle. There's more to come ... MN is master of blades and hacks; damage bonus to all knife types; efficacy bonus to CBs. CA is the scoutly scout; innate bonus to scan range; efficacy bonus to precision and range modules. GA is the infiltrator; innate bonus to cloak duration and cooldown; efficacy bonus to damps. AM is the kite; innate bonus to stamina; efficacy bonus to biotics. * Requires Range Extenders to be moved to high slot. MN Scout - "While cloaked" bonus greatly reduces scan profile. CA Scout - "While cloaked" bonus counters the effect of cloak-blind. GA Scout - "While cloaked" bonus accelerates armor regen. AM Scout - "While cloaked" cloak bonus increases land speed. Thoughts? As a whole, I like it. The only problem is that it seems to work as a whole, and I am not convinced CCP would be able to pull it off realistically. I do like the general sentiment of it. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1253	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:49:00 - [26650] - Quote Agreed. Racial Knives as previously described would require lots of work. Still no harm in dreaming big.

Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 329	Posted - 2014.12.17 19:12:00 - [26651] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: What do you guys run in your "pirate" flaylock/NK build? Convince me, pull me over to the dark side Basic suit is the one I use the most: Cpx Precision Enhancer Enh Shield Extender ZN-28 NK Flaylock Pistol Flux Grenade Cpx Dampener Cpx KinCat Adv Cloak ____________________________ My Adv suit which gets a lot less use: Cpx Precision Enhancer Cpx Precision Enhancer Enh. Shield Extender Ishukone NK Flaylock Pistol Packed AV Grenade Cpx Dampener Cpx KinCat Pro Cloak Remote Explosives ____________________________ I don't believe in stacking more then one shield extender. It has never saved me. I actually used to run with sidearm damage mods instead but that SINGLE adv. shield extender has allowed me to complete kills where I'd otherwise die mid-swing. I do not use proto suits for general purpose, they are really specific. (more damps because Amarr scouts or faster hacking, etc)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20297	Posted - 2014.12.17 19:20:00 - [26652] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Gallente One strike per charge, 1 strike = a flux. (meaning it would be wise to have a second ready to finish them) Exactly what I was thinking! Pounce with GA Knives to eliminate shields; follow up with a brutal pummeling using AM Knives. Mixing and matching racial knives would be ridiculously fun. Who'd want to run Shotgun? Having to switch knives suggests a knife TTK longer than would really be survivable for the knifer. knife 1 attack switches to second set of knives gets mowed down attempting to get the next few cuts done Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1986	Posted - 2014.12.17 19:36:00 - [26653] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You need 10 members for a corp forum. We have ten n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 512 boxes...0 keys
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 330	Posted - 2014.12.17 19:37:00 - [26654] - Quote I..... I kinda like knives just as they are ! D: But choice is cool. I can't go against it.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1986	Posted - 2014.12.17 19:38:00 - [26655] - Quote Really, how? My corporation is going to have a little event tonight and I want to get a forum to put these things. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 512 boxes...0 keys
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5107	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:00:00 - [26656] - Quote Did anyone else notice the X-MS15 Snowball Launcher in the market today? I used it earlier. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1991	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:13:00 - [26657] - Quote Spademan wrote: Did anyone else notice the X-MS15 Snowball Launcher in the market today? I used it earlier. I noticed it, but can't use it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 512 boxes...0 keys
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5857	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:14:00 - [26658] - Quote Spademan wrote: Did anyone else notice the X-MS15 Snowball Launcher in the market today? I used it earlier. I want MOAR Ladders
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 1991	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:16:00 - [26659] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Did anyone else notice the X-MS15 Snowball Launcher in the market today? I used it earlier. I want When they become rare and trading comes in I will be selling them for 60k each. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò V GùòS¦¦n++killer of Cat Merc/Feathered overlord of all. 15 Quafe Ck.0s! 512 boxes...0 keys
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5857	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:18:00 - [26660] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Spademan wrote: Did anyone else notice the X-MS15 Snowball Launcher in the market today? I used it earlier. I want When they become rare and trading comes in I will be selling them for 60k each. Caldari through and through MOAR Ladders

Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5108	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:19:00 - [26661] - Quote By the way, it does no damage whatsoever. None. At all. But it has a cool snowball look on the projectiles. Explosion needs some work though. Also, it's a mass driver I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5857	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:21:00 - [26662] - Quote Spademan wrote: By the way, it does no damage whatsoever. None. At all. But it has a cool snowball look on the projectiles. Explosion needs some work though. Also, it's a mass driver No damage at all This is my kind of weapon Gonna go snowball me some HAVs MOAR Ladders
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 1399	Posted - 2014.12.17 20:37:00 - [26663] - Quote Spademan wrote: By the way, it does no damage whatsoever. None. At all. But it has a cool snowball look on the projectiles. Explosion needs some work though. Also, it's a mass driver well geeze. that makes me wanna toss balls at people for an hr or so. ugh tryin to get used to Loadout though. how long is that thing suppose to be up on the market? TLDR : Last Dust Montage
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 113	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:02:00 - [26664] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: @ Scouts With Passive Scans as they are today and Active Scans the forte of another, tomorrow's Scout will be less about scouting and more about sneaking, shenanigans and assassination. All far more fun and rewarding than recon, so you'll hear no complaints from me :-) If tomorrow's Scouts are to become more like Assassins, shouldn't each have a knife to call his own? >>> http://i.imgur.com/IeaUIzU.jpg <<< And how might each of these beauties behave? Uncharged Attack Each exactly the same. Because Knife Duels are badass, and they're better this way. Minmatar, Charged Attack * Today's blades in Min skin * Equal damage to armor and shields * The hardest and most reliable option * "Don't touch my knives, bro." - Musturd Amarr, Charged Attack * Four fast slashes * Quick to charge * Slight stunlock on hit * Massive damage to armor; negligible damage to shields * Inspiration: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry_of_blows Gallente, Charged Attack * Perfectly silent and longer range * Quick to charge * Massive damage to shields; negligible damage to armor * Inspiration: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/High-frequency_blade Caldari, Charged Attack * Ballistic knives, mothatruckahs! * Slow to charge * One projectile fired per charge; total "ammo" of two * Projectiles regenerate after cooldown * Equal damage to armor and shields * Inspiration: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistic_Knife Fun, right? What would you guys like to see in future knives? like it but CCP Rattati wants to use in game stuff so no new mechanics. I know they have the designs of each of the knives and they could change the number of hits, charge speed and damage. if CCP does bring out the knives I think each scout should get a bonus to their knives however then the Minnie would need 1 new bonus. I vote a reduction to kin cats cpu/pg.... well at less pg maybe 1 pg for basic, 2 pg on adv and 3 for complex. this way on a proto suit could get 3-9 pg back for shield extenders or better weapons.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 745	Posted - 2014.12.17 21:22:00 - [26665] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: @ Scouts With Passive Scans as they are today and Active Scans the forte of another, tomorrow's Scout will be less about scouting and more about sneaking, shenanigans and assassination. All far more fun and rewarding than recon, so you'll hear no complaints from me :-) If tomorrow's Scouts are to become more like Assassins, shouldn't each have a knife to call his own? >>> http://i.imgur.com/IeaUIzU.jpg <<< And how might each of these beauties behave? Uncharged Attack Each exactly the same. Because Knife Duels are badass, and they're better this way. Minmatar, Charged Attack * Today's blades in Min skin * Equal damage to armor and shields * The hardest and most reliable option * "Don't touch my knives, bro." - Musturd Amarr, Charged Attack * Four fast slashes * Quick to charge * Slight stunlock on hit * Massive damage to armor; negligible damage to shields * Inspiration: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry_of_blows Gallente, Charged Attack * Perfectly silent and longer range * Quick to charge * Massive damage to shields; negligible damage to armor * Inspiration: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/High-frequency_blade Caldari, Charged Attack * Ballistic knives, mothatruckahs! * Slow to charge * One projectile fired per charge; total "ammo" of two * Projectiles regenerate after cooldown * Equal damage to armor and shields * Inspiration: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistic_Knife Fun, right? What would you guys like to see in future knives? like it but CCP Rattati wants to use in game stuff so no new mechanics. I know they have the designs of each of the knives and they could change the number of hits, charge speed and damage. if CCP does bring out the knives I think each scout should get a bonus to their knives however then the Minnie would need 1 new bonus. I vote a reduction to kin cats cpu/pg.... well at less pg maybe 1 pg for basic, 2 pg on adv and 3 for complex. this way on a proto suit could get 3-9 pg back for shield extenders or better weapons. But my scout don't use knives or kincats. I play my gal scout as a dampened marksman scout with a tac-ar. scan range and precision use to be my helper skills but range was taken away and now nerfed to **** and precision kinda useless now also. If i wanted to be a fast NK scout I would be a min scout.
Bayeth Mal Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2078	Posted - 2014.12.17 22:47:00 - [26666] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2523330#post2523330 ^ Lots and lots of "oh, snap!" in here. Do recommend reading :-) Edit: Also, skilling Myos from 0 to 5 And people wonder why I don't go outside. We'll bang, OK?
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5109	Posted - 2014.12.17 23:29:00 - [26667] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Also, skilling Myos from 0 to 5 You mean you haven't already? No skill scrub, git gud. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3182	Posted - 2014.12.18 01:05:00 - [26668] - Quote FlayLOL has been renamed the FlayLOVE Im actually in love with this weapon. Its so good once you get used to it, esp coupled with fluxes and remotes to kill heavies Its the weapon an evil pyromaniac orgasms just thinking about. Im going balls deep into it once I max my armor skills I killed Arirana and DJINN Rampage with it today on my Republic Nomad suit, and was LOLing hard "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5858	Posted - 2014.12.18 01:08:00 - [26669] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: FlayLOL has been renamed the FlayLOVE Im actually in love with this weapon. Its so good once you get used to it, esp coupled with fluxes and remotes to kill heavies Its the weapon an evil pyromaniac orgasms just thinking about. Im going balls deep into it once I max my armor skills I killed Arirana and DJINN Rampage with it today on my Republic Nomad suit, and was LOLing hard Rapid Reload GavGÇª Rapid Reload MOAR Ladders
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1060	Posted - 2014.12.18 01:31:00 - [26670] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2523330#post2523330 ^ Lots and lots of "oh, snap!" in here. Do recommend reading :-) Edit: Also, skilling Myos from 0 to 5 Got mine up to 3 last night. ;) Going for gold once the jump bonus gets implemented. I hope it's huge! I want to jump 3x the normal height! Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.



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