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Kaeru Nayiri wrote:

jace silencerww wrote:

I am not over doing it but look. 3 guys running to a staircase normally I could nk them all from behind using my adv fit with 2 damps and they would not see me on radar all but now with this you will be spotted after the first guy.
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I've been thinking about this a little bit, and how, when someone is dead, their passives continue to be shared with their squad until their clone is terminated.

If you are taking advantage of the fact that they couldn't see you on TACNET to kill a group of people, it only means one thing: that group of people are not on coms together. What I am trying to say is that having someone's shortest scan broadcasted to TACNET after they die, revealing your position to the rest of her/his squad, is basically the same as trying to take out an organized squad with coms. When you kill one, they will all turn around whether you are on TACNET or not. You have to embrace this as an added difficulty but also a NECESSARY one if you ever hope to up your game and face PC level opponents. I am guilty of taking advantage of my target's silence hundreds of times. That will soon change, but hopefully will prepare me for a much higher caliber of opponent.

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General John Ripper 26427	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:13:00 - [26281] - Quote you guys need to check this out. Don't click this link
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 348	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:08:00 - [26282] - Quote Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13070	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:14:00 - [26283] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: xavier zor wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I fully expect the WP amount to be adjusted. 1 for every 300 WP? Dude, I alone could easily pull 5-8 of those a match. I would save it...an OB is easy to get (warbage strike) if you actually are trying for points. I squadded up with a commando ak.0 that was using a combat rifle and mass driver...he scored 1500 with me above 3600! Funnest match! Of course I tried with my amarr sentinel but he sucked at logi lol These will be spammed none-the-less but at least some of us are smart enough to save our points...? I don't think the system works on saving points. I think it's just "Get X strike after X points" Then again, we've never had options. It may actually be a "Spending" system. Wait until tomorrow to find out. You earn WP and spend it on Strikes "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6640	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:24:00 - [26284] - Quote It's the same now, why would a system that works be changed. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Denak Kalamari 1629	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:32:00 - [26285] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. The second equipment slot we were given was specifically for the reason that we could use the cloak, and pretty much the entire Barbershop scout community has adopted it in one way or another. Saying that "pure scouts" don't use it just sounds silly. I used to have a blog where I wrote stuff about DUST, and people seemed to like it. Now, I can't even be bothered. Woo.
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6641	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:33:00 - [26286] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: xavier zor wrote: Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. The second equipment slot we were given was specifically for the reason that we could use the cloak, and pretty much the entire Barbershop scout community has adopted it in one way or another. Saying that "pure scouts" don't use it just sounds silly. Many of us were also waiting years for it. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
xavier zor Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 348	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:59:00 - [26287] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: xavier zor wrote: Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. The second equipment slot we were given was specifically for the reason that we could use the cloak, and pretty much the entire Barbershop scout community has adopted it in one way or another. Saying that "pure scouts" don't use it just sounds silly. Many of us were also waiting years for it. I don't mean pure as in more skilled than cloak users...just scouts that don't use the cloak. It is a handy tool to have though :) My to-do list when i return to dust: Logi my own way to an OB, and never use the cloak on my minja! And have some ISK!
Denak Kalamari 1629	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:13:00 - [26288] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: xavier zor wrote: Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. The second equipment slot we were given was specifically for the reason that we could use the cloak, and pretty much the entire Barbershop scout community has adopted it in one way or another. Saying that "pure scouts" don't use it just sounds silly. Many of us were also waiting years for it. I don't mean pure as in more skilled than cloak users...just scouts that don't use the cloak. It is a handy tool to have though :) Still, the definition of a pure scout being one who does not use a cloak is just silly for the aforementioned reason I used to have a blog where I wrote stuff about DUST, and people seemed to like it. Now, I can't even be bothered. Woo.
Jebus McKing Jebus Hates Scans 1233	Posted - 2014.12.09 12:38:00 - [26289] - Quote My first death in 1.10 was to nova knives... PLS NERF!!!1 You have been scanned
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 102	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:58:00 - [26290] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: jace silencerww wrote: I am not over doing it but look. 3 guys running to a staircase normally I could nk them all from behind using my adv fit with 2 damps and they would not see me on radar all but now with this you will be spotted after the first guy. [...] I've been thinking about this a little bit, and how, when someone is dead, their passives continue to be shared with their squad until their clone is terminated. If you are taking advantage of the fact that they couldn't see you on TACNET to kill a group of people, it only means one thing: that group of people are not on coms together. What I am trying to say is that having someone's shortest scan broadcasted to TACNET after they die, revealing your position to the rest of her/his squad, is basically the same as trying to take out an organized squad with coms. When you kill one, they will all turn around whether you are on TACNET or not. You have to embrace this as an added difficulty but also a NECESSARY one if you ever hope to up your game and face PC level opponents. I am guilty of taking advantage of my target's silence hundreds of times. That will soon change, but hopefully will prepare me for a much higher caliber of opponent. you would be surprised how many times even in squads you can nk kill 1-3 of 4-6 them before they turn to kill you because you were fully damped even knowing a nk user is there they have no clue where since I was not on they tacnet but with this the dead members tacnet is STILL shared with his squad as long as he is not clone killed. even then as long as he don't hit the button to start to respawn it is still shared so guess what I am spotted. so anyone notice that a 4 complex damp gall scout with proto cloak can not hide in the short range of 3 complex precision assault?

Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6650	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:14:00 - [26291] - Quote Well yall called it, heavy spam fo days son! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6467	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:30:00 - [26292] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: My first death in 1.10 was to nova knives... PLS NERF!!!1 Did he show on your tacnet just before he killed you? Just curious. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6467	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:34:00 - [26293] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Out of interest, how many pure scouts are still here? Ones that don't use the cloak field...the 'rare breed'. If i start playing dust again (personal issues ) i will definitely give my minja and ck.0 brawler scout a decent chance without the cloak field. It is just i like CQC'ing with people and love knives but the minja is built for knifing and the caldari scout is the perfect tank...almost an assault with godly eWar, biotic statistics and regeneration statistcs. I stopped using the cloak the last time I played because it was too aggravating to work around. I know the previous removal of the decloak animation was supposed to be a hack, but I found that a much smoother mechanic than what is currently in place. Especially considering how it affects having cloak equipped but not active. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1052	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:39:00 - [26294] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Well yall called it, heavy spam fo days son! King HP FTW! Haven't played yet. Will be on shortly. Initial impressions to follow.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1582	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:45:00 - [26295] - Quote Any sniping tips? *IGS is so quiet now, the silence is almost unbearable.*
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1052	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:02:00 - [26296] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Any sniping tips? Did you not claim to be the alt of a dedicated sniper in Symbiotic's recent thread?
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1582	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:07:00 - [26297] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Any sniping tips? Did you not claim to be the alt of a dedicated sniper in Symbiotic's recent thread? Yes, my alt was last logged on in 1.7, he is under INACTIVE I just skilled into Snipers on this alt, and am a bit rusty (Says the person who just get 5 headshots without missing.) so any tips? *IGS is so quiet now, the silence is almost unbearable.*
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8688	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:33:00 - [26298] - Quote LOL. So I comment on the Active scanner keeping the arrow on tacnet, saying that Gal Logis are now the best recon suit. I point out how the meta will change and scouts new role. I got told by blues that they never understand why people from big corps complain so much. STFU, I didn't complain at all in that post you idiots. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1052	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:38:00 - [26299] - Quote How'd the chem final go? (here's the thread)
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 1331	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:40:00 - [26300] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Any sniping tips? Go watch a old moody vid called like 'special forces' sum of the best dust snipping. Just sayn TLDR : Last Dust Montage

Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1052	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:42:00 - [26301] - Quote "Daily Missions" are nicely implemented. Intuitive. Easily accessed. 10 tasks generated; status for each tracked; rewards seem pretty cool.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5711	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:06:00 - [26302] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Any sniping tips? Did you not claim to be the alt of a dedicated sniper in Symbiotic's recent thread? Yes, my alt was last logged on in 1.7, he is under INACTIVE I just skilled into Snipers on this alt, and am a bit rusty (Says the person who just get 5 headshots without missing.) so any tips? Aim for the head MOAR Ladders
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 278	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:11:00 - [26303] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: LOL. So I comment on the Active scanner keeping the arrow on tacnet, saying that Gal Logis are now the best recon suit. I point out how the meta will change and scouts new role. I got told by blues that they never understand why people from big corps complain so much. STFU, I didn't complain at all in that post you idiots. I feel your pain on this one. Quote: Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family Apparently we're brothers, and I didn't realize it. o7
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1055	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:17:00 - [26304] - Quote Early Impressions: Combat The frequency of Scouts (in Ambush at least) appears unchanged. Heavily armored GalScouts seem more common than other Scouts. Backpedal Speed, Breach AR, and HMG Heavies remain imbalanced The suicide f*cktards should be programatically removed from battle after X number of suicides. It is nothing for these guys to suicide 20x per match, and there's usually more than one of 'em. Out of 12 matches, matchmaking has put the "SUICIDE FOREVER" squad on my team 8 times.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5711	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:26:00 - [26305] - Quote With the Supply Depot changes has anybody noticed Logi farming in the redline yet? I predict: Redline Supply Depot sees a few suit changes with a Logi reaping the changer until WB strikes occur. MOAR Ladders
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14227	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:37:00 - [26306] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Any sniping tips? Did you not claim to be the alt of a dedicated sniper in Symbiotic's recent thread? Yes, my alt was last logged on in 1.7, he is under INACTIVE I just skilled into Snipers on this alt, and am a bit rusty (Says the person who just get 5 headshots without missing.) so any tips? Aim for the head Don't actually do that unless: 1. Your target is stationary. 2. You would like to miss your target due to his/her ++ber strafing. 3. You would like to hit your target and get a blue flare thanks to the not-so ++ber hit detection. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8701	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:49:00 - [26307] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: Quote: Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family Apparently we're brothers, and I didn't realize it. o7 Yeah, after getting kicked out of the State War Academy, I wandered for a bit trying to figure out what to do from there. Couldn't go back to my family, they thought I was a disgrace. Ran into some Vherokior while crashing at a pub. Got into a fight with some Amarr who tried to strongarm me into joining the Amarr Militia (Claiming that they were "Rescuing me from the company of these barbarians") Sure enough, after I threw the man down trying to manhandle me, the Amarr with him looked ready for a fight, then backed down and left. Turned around and half the freaking cantina was standing up ready to fight as well. They were willing to stand up for me when nobody else would. Ran with them for a bit, and found out that they are better family than anyone else I've ever had. After hearing tales of their oppression at the hands of the Amarr, I decided to officially join the militia. NOBODY messes with my family. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 8701	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:50:00 - [26308] - Quote Also: First two rounds with a 2x damp, 1x kincat NK scout, with 3x shotgun damp as back up. 38-7 and 24-5 Seems to be working still.. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6657	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:59:00 - [26309] - Quote took off the cloak, forget how much space that thing takes up, two regs , a kincat, and full shield for example. And can fit full weapons, proto REs, K2s, and if I'm lucky a nade. Depending on the fit. By the way 2 regulators is just evil. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6470	Posted - 2014.12.09 20:07:00 - [26310] - Quote Glad to hear that Minjas are not UP yet. I bet it will take some playing around though before we really see where the new meta is going. It is still so early and I bet there will be some respecs purchased in the coming days. It is a good sign though that somehow shotgunners are affected by the scan radius, but not knifing yet. I have tomorrow and Thursday off and will spend some time on testing it out. The amount depends on how much fun/frustration I am having. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"



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