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Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3345	Posted - 2014.10.19 19:52:00 - [23851] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: xavier zor wrote: I will be on this in 4 days....in 2 days i will be home and playing with you scouts another days and i will ave accumulated 1.7 mil SP to spend on codebreaking IV and V and whatever else Codebreaking V is AWESOME Have fun maybe see you out in the field ^All of this See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3345	Posted - 2014.10.19 19:59:00 - [23852] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Llast 326 wrote: mollerz wrote: A quafe minja BPO!? Wait.. are you saying there is a ******* minja bpo? I have an ALT that is proto Gal heavy, maxed armor core skills, proto HMG, and LV4 Forge. There is no better way to understand your prey than to put yourself in their suit. No real Minja BPO Cross is running the Quafe Min Assault on Militia Minja fitting and styleGÇª Cross we we should call it the Quafja just to avoid raising and dashing so many Minja dreams Good point! That will also save on confusion when there is an actual minja BPO... unless it's a Quafe minja BPO in which case we're back to square one, but it'll be a very vibrant square one It has been, and remains, a goal of mine to get full racial and role BPO parity. It seems only fair to the player base, and more potential income for Dust is a good thing so win-win. Except, you know, for my wallet, which already cries silent tears Still need Templar Commando- Commando's existed when the templar sets were released and is unjust that we don't have them And need Templar Scout- for completion's sake. Which should also be given to the people that bought the 10 year pack. I'd love to have those added to my inventory of Templar items believe me. I have to say however that as those items were/are part of the EVE Collectors Edition package it is much less likely than the addition of other BPOs (even ones of the same race and class). More likely to happen than say, the re-issue of the Templar uplink (which was a pre-order bonus) but less likely than the creation of a Quafe, Sever, Raven, Valor, Dren, Cov etc Commando or Am Scout. I could be mistaken because I haven't had a specific conversation on this subject yet, but that is my current impression. See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Cass Caul 1225	Posted - 2014.10.19 20:07:00 - [23853] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Cass Caul wrote: You averaged like 2.7 hours a day. Pretty reasonable time invested. What date did you use as my start date? IIRC I came into the game at around Uprising 1.1 Approximated to 450 days. 1.1 to now~ish On Hiatus. This is my smartphone alt
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3345	Posted - 2014.10.19 20:26:00 - [23854] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Llast 326 wrote: mollerz wrote: A quafe minja BPO!? Wait.. are you saying there is a ******* minja bpo? I have an ALT that is proto Gal heavy, maxed armor core skills, proto HMG, and LV4 Forge. There is no better way to understand your prey than to put yourself in their suit. No real Minja BPO Cross is running the Quafe Min Assault on Militia Minja fitting and styleGÇª Cross we we should call it the Quafja just to avoid raising and dashing so many Minja dreams Good point! That will also save on confusion when there is an actual minja BPO... unless it's a Quafe minja BPO in which case we're back to square one, but it'll be a very vibrant square one It has been, and remains, a goal of mine to get full racial and role BPO parity. It seems only fair to the player base, and more potential income for Dust is a good thing so win-win. Except, you know, for my wallet, which already cries silent tears Honestly dude, that is secondary to where the game is going. There is no reason to put any money into a game that has no future ya know? I think anyone would tell you that those of us who funded them originally would begin to do so with a proper road map delivered that included console players. It isn't secondary to where the game is going, it is integral to where the game can go. How much of a future Dust has is directly related to how well it is doing as a business venture. I know that generally we as gamers get surly when that aspect is broached, I know I have done so more than once, but the simple fact is sustained development requires sustained revenue. No matter what company you are talking about if they do not maintain a profit on the projects they invest in both the company and projects won't be around for very long. Being someone who has been putting money into Dust since closed beta I completely agree with you that a roadmap, more communication, etc are vital. I have been harping on that since beta and feel no less strongly about it now. That being said CCP R and crew have been doing great things regarding communication and I think some credit is due there. As to the question of Legion, what company do you know that has a game in pre-alpha which can and will credibly confirm lots of long term plans and multi-platform support? I have, and will continue to, remind CCP of the portion of the community that will buy PS4s but not PCs and that Legion should provide support for that. Just as I will continue to remind my gaming buddies that not everyone who has a PS3 will be getting a PS4 any time soon (if ever). Shifting platforms, and multi platform support are somewhat complex due to the factors involved. Simple truth is that games are build on computers, even when they are deployed for consoles, so it makes sense, especially for a long time PC game company who encountered problems executing a project on a console, to start with PC development. That is one of those business realities (none of this is privileged information that CCP has imparted to me, it is simply a set of easily observable facts about the technology, and economic aspects involved). When I think about where the game is going I am thinking about Dust 514 on the PS3. Legion is later and is preliminary and while I personally do not much doubt that it will "become a thing" as it were playing Dust purely for the unknown of what Legion may or may not be is likely ill advised. I have friends who've migrated their gaming to the PS4 almost exclusively, it is a more robust piece of equipment than the PS3 no question and I do not blame them whatsoever for wanting to make use of that tech. However Dust is a PS3 game and likely to remain so for the duration and Legion has no release date regardless of platform so it is a pretty big unknown even for the teams working on it I would bet (how often does a game actually meet its first release date? And if it does how often is it not in a bug riddled state?). What is not unknown is this, as with any product or service on the market the longevity and presence of Dust can be directly correlated to the activity and support of its community of users (the primary metric of which is always, for better or worse, money currently being spent). So while I do not have a road map to offer, and while I completely agree that more communication and transparency are desirable the fundamental facts are pretty clear. Legion is too 'young' for many legitimate promises to be made about. Dust 514s future longevity is directly tied to its financial solvency, which directly links to things like BPOs, boosters, etc. So no, it's not secondary, it is part of the same literal thing. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Cass Caul 1225	Posted - 2014.10.19 20:48:00 - [23855] - Quote I'd rather watch a game die prematurely than make the same mistake I did with DUST. CCP has taught me, quite well, to never fund a game before full release and to understand "future plans" just mean things the devs want to do rather than things that will happen. I wouldn't even be bothering with Destiny, if it wasn't purchased for me. But at least only IWS exists here. That game's site is full of IWS-style impotent nerd rage On Hiatus. This is my smartphone alt
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3347	Posted - 2014.10.19 21:01:00 - [23856] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cross.. Can i throw something out there.. And I know it might not be popular, but bear with me... Can you talk CCP into delaying 1.9 with the goal of broadening the breadth of the update. To the point they could call it 2.0? Like if they could open up discussions and work on adding more? 1.9 is in final QA to the best of my knowledge so creation of a 2.0 patch would likely be just as fast/faster with a 1.9 release as with a delayed release at this point. mollerz wrote: Reintroducing vehicles they took out with the design that hotfixes could easily help balance them based on what they've learned with CCP Ratattti. Variants of things.. from flux flaylocks to spec ops cloaks vs normal cloaks, etc. Perhaps more equipment, variants of dropsuits based on specializations, mm.. player trading? itams for itams/isk etc? I want all of the omitted content, be it Logi vehicles, or Pilot suits, to be present in the game. That is something which I constantly bring up and work towards supporting. I do think with the new hotfix cycle they could be integrated and balanced properly and I will continue to push toward that result. Not all of the 'new'/omitted content has the same overhead with regards to getting it into the game so I won't even hazard a guess as to time frames but to the best of my capacity as a CPM to make that stuff happen (limited though that can be), I'll push it to happen mollerz wrote: And then just commit to PS4? PS4 is x86 now.. war thunder has PC vs PS4 and it is golden man. They could do the same exact thing.. they already have the backend done. Just **** I am hoping they are thinking about. They are thinking about it, at least I little bit. I know that for a fact because I keep kittening in their ear about that every time it comes up. Here are the barriers I see, being as real and blunt as I can be. 1. CCP over-promised with Dust. They dreamed big (and good for them on that) but their hopes far exceeded their reach when it came to developing for the console. They've been burned by their own misjudgement and they are not eager to repeat that mistake. This contributes to the trickle of news on Legion (something I object to, I really think communication should be more open) because they now don't want to say anything until they know they can deliver it (this part I can hardly blame them for). 2. Dust 514 has a new guy at the helm and frankly CCP Ratattti has done wonders with what he was given when he was put in charge. But his he in a position to deliver on all of the over promise that those who came before him saddled the game with? Not in the near term, but quite frankly it would be hard for anyone to do more than Ratattti has been and is doing. 3. The long term of Dust 514 is determined by the community. I do not just mean content in the game, I mean the existence of the game. Player activity levels in matches and on the forums. In word of mouth to friends and spending our hard earned cash in the game, these things make or break what does becomes and how long it survives. 4. The strength of the connection to the console market, namely the PS4 with regards to Legion is going to depend heavily on the fate of Dust 514. If Dust has a robust (and yes, profitable) player base as Legion progresses past pre-Alpha then a profit minded business will seek to keep tapping into that market, which in this case would be PS4 support for Legion. If Dust 514 has dried up and both the community and revenue from it have withered to a trickle then a profit minded business will avoid throwing good money after bad and cut its losses, which means vastly delayed PS4 support for Legion if it comes at all. 5. International business isn't fair. <--- This sucks, massively but it is a fact of our current context. We were all sold the vision of something which was not delivered. That is unfair and every one of us who put down our hard earned money for that vision has legitimate right to be disappointed and pissed off. Inside the studio there are people who worked on the game that are no less disappointed or pissed off by how that went down, and there are quite a few who have been fired as well. So, in the current unfair environment we are faced with the choices available to us are a gamble (it's life, that's always gonna be true) but they are fairly straightforward. Either invest our time/energy/money into supporting the continued development of Dust and the increased probability of Legions deployment on the PS4 or cut our losses and invest nothing else. History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked has worked weekends on top of the rest). I've seen Dev interaction during their vacations (LogiBro is a wizard) and while neither they nor anyone else can promise a certainty about the future I am willing to risk it because I know, win lose or draw, that those guys are giving their best. I have made my personal choice to take the risk and give Ratattti et al their shot. What each individual chooses for themselves is entirely their own call (and that is as it should be). I can't promise outcomes, only effort, but for what it''s worth, the effort is there in spade. Cheers, Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4886	Posted - 2014.10.19 21:15:00 - [23857] - Quote @ Cross I guess my biggest problem with No. 1 is that they simply stated things the wrong way. Their problem wasn't dissemination of info, it was the way that information was presented. They could easily not have made promises, and said these are the things we are currently working on and would like to have in the game, circumstances willing. They could have, and still could with regard to Legion, temper expectations within the info that they give. It really isn't too difficult, it happens all the time in business. Look at Arrested Development. They always said they wanted to make a new season, but never made any promises. When they did start work, they always said that it was in the works, but that it was no guarantee. It was good that they finished the project, and while it wasn't up to par with previous work, they did a good job of providing information without making true promises and were honest about difficulties that prevented the work from being what they had initially wanted it to be. CCP can do the same. They can let people know what is being worked on, much like they did at FF, but without making promises. Like, we are working towards A, but if C and D come in to play, A might not make it into the games release. There are enough PR firms out there that get it that even a small one could easily help manage information without making the same mistakes they made previously. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3349	Posted - 2014.10.19 21:32:00 - [23858] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: @ Cross I guess my biggest problem with No. 1 is that they simply stated things the wrong way. Their problem wasn't dissemination of info, it was the way that information was presented. They could easily not have made promises, and said these are the things we are currently working on and would like to have in the game, circumstances willing. They could have, and still could with regard to Legion, temper expectations within the info that they give. It really isn't too difficult, it happens all the time in business. Look at Arrested Development. They always said they wanted to make a new season, but never made any promises. When they did start work, they always said that it was in the works, but that it was no guarantee. It was good that they finished the project, and while it wasn't up to par with previous work, they did a good job of providing information without making true promises and were honest about difficulties that prevented the work from being what they had initially wanted it to be. CCP can do the same. They can let people know what is being worked on, much like they did at FF, but without making promises. Like, we are working towards A, but if C and D come in to play, A might not make it into the games release. There are enough PR firms out there that get it that even a small one could easily help manage information without making the same mistakes they made previously. I agree with you 100% and that sums up almost exactly what I have been asking for since closed beta, and continue to seek during my time as CPM. I do feel it is worth noting that while CCP the company and employer remains the same, and thus many individuals within the company remain the same, the Dust team has undergone quite a bit of change and many of the people who (as I understand it) made those calls in the first place are either not in the same role or not with the company at all. Ratattti & LogiBro have been stepping up communication quite a bit and being much more direct and forthright about what they are doing/can do. Granted there is still a dearth of communication with regards to Legion (Look at the game Eternal Crusade for how I'd like to see communication for a pre-Alpha game conducted) and I would like to see that lack of communication changed. But bear in mind that while the larger company CCP shares one pool of personnel and resources Dust / Legion are not simply one team or project despite some of the same people having worked on both. So credit where it is due. Credit to Legion for lacking in satisfactory levels of communication at present. And credit to Dust for having solidly improved and still improving levels of communication. Hopefully both reach a solid high water mark, but mean time lets not intermingle the two. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Haerr Clone Manque 1654	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:45:00 - [23859] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Llast 326 wrote: You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGÇª it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGÇª just give a dot. I agree with both, yet we are not able to for 1.9. Bummer. Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4930	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:46:00 - [23860] - Quote Haerr wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Llast 326 wrote: You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGÇª it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGÇª just give a dot. I agree with both, yet we are not able to for 1.9. Bummer. But your cloak thing is likely a thing KRRROOOOOOM

Haerr Clone Manque 1654	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:47:00 - [23861] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: There is, however, that Mystery Code, maybe... goes off to scheme Don't mind me, carry on scheming! Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
Haerr Clone Manque 1656	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:51:00 - [23862] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Haerr wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Llast 326 wrote: You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGÇª it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGÇª just give a dot. I agree with both, yet we are not able to for 1.9. Bummer. But your cloak thing is likely a thing Cool! Hmmm... I feel like both my troll to normal post ratio, and ** post to normal post ratio, has been upset in someway by this. This cannot stand, I will have to make an effort to uphold the **** troll post standard! Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
hfderrtgvcd 882	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:53:00 - [23863] - Quote Haerr wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Haerr wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Llast 326 wrote: You know what I would like to see in 1.9 Remove shared passiveGÇª it's to powerful but also Removal of the direction indicator on TacNetGÇª just give a dot. I agree with both, yet we are not able to for 1.9. Bummer. But your cloak thing is likely a thing Cool! Hmmm... I feel like both my troll to normal post ratio, and ** post to normal post ratio, has been upset in someway by this. This cannot stand, I will have to make an effort to uphold the **** troll post standard! I'm assuming the turret event goes under that category You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Haerr Clone Manque 1656	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:54:00 - [23864] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT I am still here and am still spending the occacional IRL ISK on Dust! If there is some improvements to mouse support I am likely to spend more! Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
Haerr Clone Manque 1656	Posted - 2014.10.19 22:54:00 - [23865] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: I'm assuming the turret event goes under that category What? NO! Why do you have to be so mean? Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
Haerr Clone Manque 1656	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:06:00 - [23866] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Haerr wrote: I feel like both my troll to normal post ratio, and ** post to normal post ratio, has been upset in someway by this. This cannot stand, I will have to make an effort to uphold the **** troll post standard! I'm assuming the turret event goes under that category The Standard has been upheld. THREAD Haerr's huge list of wish for 1.9 - 1.10: Fix mouse support.
mollerz 5704	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:07:00 - [23867] - Quote Good take, Cross o7 I'm seriously fukn serious
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3361	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:14:00 - [23868] - Quote Haerr wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT I am still here and am still spending the occacional IRL ISK on Dust! If there is some improvements to mouse support I am likely to spend more! Thanks for the reminder about that. I know IWS brought it up with CCP recently but it doesn't hurt for me to bring it up again Getting as many things polished and added is key to fun, which in a game equals value, and who wants to throw around their IRL ISK without value? So as ever, keep 'em commin' making sure they get to the right eyes and ears within CCP is what I'm here for. o7 See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
hfderrtgvcd 882	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:23:00 - [23869] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Haerr wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Cross Atu wrote: WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT I am still here and am still spending the occacional IRL ISK on Dust! If there is some improvements to mouse support I am likely to spend more! Thanks for the reminder about that. I know IWS brought it up with CCP recently but it doesn't hurt for me to bring it up again Getting as many things polished and added is key to fun, which in a game equals value, and who wants to throw around their IRL ISK without value? So as ever, keep 'em commin' making sure they get to the right eyes and ears within CCP is what I'm here for. o7 respec You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 87	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:33:00 - [23870] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Here we go. Since I basically fully retired from Dust, here are my lifetime stats. Been a fun ride people! Kills: 43091 Deaths: 16264 Suicides: 273 Assisted Kills: 12584 Assisted Kills in a Vehicle: 438 Wins: 2177 Losses: 815 Objects hacked: 6338 Ghost Kaisar logon count: 894 Total logon time for both characters: 1255 hours Can i have some ISK?? ;P scout ck.0 here!

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17368	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:42:00 - [23871] - Quote Sorry forecast for handing out respecs are pretty low. Handing out respects though entirely different story. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4933	Posted - 2014.10.19 23:59:00 - [23872] - Quote Haerr wrote: Cool! Hmmm... I feel like both my troll to normal post ratio, and ** post to normal post ratio, has been upset in someway by this. This cannot stand, I will have to make an effort to uphold the ** troll post standard! May I recommend Metric vs Imperial measurementGÇª Honestly how did that fly as a troll people can be so indignant about the strangest things I got called Euro Trash I think i might now be indignant about people being so damn indignant Llast wrote:** Llast you are rambling again oh rightGÇª. KRRROOOOOOM
Cass Caul 1226	Posted - 2014.10.20 00:23:00 - [23873] - Quote I know, being called Euro Trash is a compliment to Canadian On Hiatus. This is my smartphone alt
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4934	Posted - 2014.10.20 02:10:00 - [23874] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: I know, being called Euro Trash is a compliment to Canadian Now if he had just called me a "commie" as well it would have been a glorious day KRRROOOOOOM
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 831	Posted - 2014.10.20 02:14:00 - [23875] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Cass Caul 1228	Posted - 2014.10.20 03:24:00 - [23876] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) You mean you didn't notice in the blog post? Rattati said that all water effects are now being turned into wine effects. Stay out of the water or else your merc will get drunk. Though rate of effect is based on total armor HP On Hiatus. This is my smartphone alt

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8927	Posted - 2014.10.20 03:30:00 - [23877] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) Only server side water "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4892	Posted - 2014.10.20 03:34:00 - [23878] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) Only server side water I didn't know Dust even had water! You can always tell a Millford Minja
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4934	Posted - 2014.10.20 03:36:00 - [23879] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) Only server side water I didn't know Dust even had water! Mushroom socket in the blasted wall sectionGÇª pouring out of a damaged water towerGÇª Only place I've seen water Edit: soon to be wineGÇª expect my merc to be easy pickings standing under the fountain KRRROOOOOOM
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4892	Posted - 2014.10.20 03:37:00 - [23880] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Cross Atu wrote: History has given us plenty of reasons to cut our losses, and I do not blame anyone who chooses to do so. But for my money at least, CCP Ratattti has given enough reason for me not to do so (the guy is so dedicated that he has worked weekends on top of the normal hours). You could probably tell me that Ratatti can turn water to wine and I'd believe you (It'd probably still have to be in a hotfix though) Only server side water I didn't know Dust even had water! Mushroom socket in the blasted wall sectionGÇª pouring out of a damaged water towerGÇª Only place I've seen water Are you sure that is water? You can always tell a Millford Minja



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