@ Brothers
Let's assume the Amarr Scout's bonus to precision was 5%.
If you had to run it competitively, how would you outfit it?

And finally, Codebreakers in high?

5% per level would get them to 18db with 2 precision
2x cPrecision
2x cDampeners
2x cReactive
cCloak
ScP
ScR

Mouth agape. A wall-rattling fart.

No!!!, if that's done, that basically makes the mimmatar unable to tank at all!!!

@ Appia, Haerr and Scan Math People

Would it not be best to increase GalLogi + Focused (15 dB) to match the proposed AM Scout baseline of 18 dB? Assuming that 15dB remains (perhaps to encourage the use of GalLogi) how do you see this panning out for us?

@ Appia, Haerr and Scan Math People

1. Would it not be best to increase GalLogi + Focused (15 dB) to match the proposed AM Scout baseline of 18 dB?

2. Assuming that 15dB remains (perhaps to encourage the use of GalLogi) how do you see this panning out for us?

The Gallente scout will be the dampener master, being able to be unscannable by sacrificing a lot of slots.

Lay it on me, after discussing with you guys, I felt the Amarr needed the precision bonus, a long range slow tank scout made precious little sense. You can keep the scout feedback here, and I will monitor.

On the Nova knife, I feel if adhesion works then it may reduce the need for range and/or increased damage. I don't think that we can get optimization skills for the NK in right now, so a Minja PG increase should go a long way.


And finally, Codebreakers in high?

Yes, cal get range.

I think backpedallng slower does not have widespread support internally. I also don't understand why you need it, min scout base speed is already higher than all others, so who is it you can't catch while backpedaling?

Assuming that 15dB remains (perhaps to encourage the use of GalLogi) how do you see this panning out for us?

And not to get anyone too excited, but there may be flaylock love on the cards for Delta...

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@ Brothers
Let's assume the Amarr Scout's bonus to precision was 5%.
If you had to run it competitively, how would you outfit it?

Precision on the amarr needs observation to play out I don't think we can make judgments on it quite yet

I can't see the point in running 1 or 2 dampeners on Min/Cal/Amarr Scouts. It doesn't make enough of a difference from where I'm standing because I run 3x Complex Precision Enhancers on my Scout C-I. The 5% bonus from the ARN doesn't make a difference

I can't see the point in running 1 or 2 dampeners on Min/Cal/Amarr Scouts. It doesn't make enough of a difference from where I'm standing because I run 3x Complex Precision Enhancers on my Scout C-I. The 5% bonus from the ARN doesn't make a difference

Okay, here is why we need backpedal speed reduced.

Min scout walks at 5.65 m/s right? Okay, so lets walk towards that Cal Logi who has his back turned.

Unfortunately, he turns around and sees you. You are now 4 m away from the target, and you have Nova Knives.

He's done for right?

NOPE.

You have to cover 4m before he can kill you. You walk forward at 5.65 and he walks backwards at 4.7 m/s.

Every second, you only cover 0.95m. Since you have to cover 2m, (Knives have a 2m range, though you really need to be point blank for this to wark) it will take you 2.1s to cover that distance.

That logi has a rifle and now has 2.1 seconds to gun you down. Totally doable. In fact, he will win MOST of the time.

You can't sprint, because you have to charge knives. So you walk. And get gunned down.

I don't even try to engage if they backpedal. You sprint away and come back when their back is turned.

I have been killed several times by missing a knife, and then having that person turn, backpedal and SPRAY until he kills my 357 HP scout.

It needs to go. The difference is far too small to make a difference. Only effective on heavies.

BUMP and MATHLETE'd that shizzle.

But for factualness, even slashing won't help you. I rarely charge my knives anymore. I can slash twice before I can charge hit someone and also be moving the entire time. IMHO, charge swiping is nice for certain situations, but worthless in quick moving CQC.

Most times, I can;t even disengage.. I'm all in at that point. I may as well crouch down and let them kill me if I run. The last ditch effort is to go into a sprint for a split second and jump with the inertia in that direction with the intent to land at the side of your prey and then slash fest them.

I actually think personally that range for cal and precision for amarr would be so perfectly balanced, as it makes the min-maxing that people do so much less invalidating of other scouts

So +1 to this Rattati

Only, you do realize that with those changes a Gal-Scout can get away with only using a single profile dampener again, right?
That was the origin of this whole kerfuffle.