If such a change does come through one of the hotfixes, and it's having gamebreaking effects, be sure someone sojourn out of the shop to throw a bottle at me so that I know about it (in case I'm either not around here at that moment, or not noticing the issue myself... hopefully neither of which will happen, but... sometimes things happen when I've been drinking )

Cheers

I always have a whiskey bottle handy for you Cross

Plus, the GalLogi is under-utilized; this would give it an opportunity to step forward; if focused scanners break the game, we can always lobby to get them rebalanced.

Gal will once again rain supreme with 1 dampener
min will only be 1db behind cal in precision
they should just revert back to pre alpha. it would be the same as making those changes.

"herp derp no one ever spams equipment"

We aren't buffing the Gal. In fact, everything changes when you point its bonus toward modules (rather than frame). Less freedom to tank. And let's not forget the nerfs to cloak and scan range.

By these numbers ...
* GalScout still needs 2 damps + pro cloak to beat GalLogi focused (unchanged).
* Any Scout w/2 cmp damps beats CalScout.

This is an improvement.

You're probably right; which works to our advantage.
Let them spam it for month, and we'll get it fixed the following.
We can't get petition to nerf something in advance of its abuse.

Ah, the good ole' one step forward two steps back approach. It's a single system of EWAR. If done simultaneously it isn't being changed in advance, but balancing it around the Scout changes

No harm in trying. What numbers did you have in mind for the Focused Scanner?

@ Void

CA will still be good at recon (and avoids becoming useless).
GA will still be the best at infiltration (lots of lows; lots of build options).
AM will actually be fun to use as a Biotic Scout.

precision per level" to, "10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner (range or angle)"

Cooldown would be more attractive than range/angle.
Thoughts?

you wanting to nerf cal precision so you can run 1 or no dampeners on a minmatar is all i see.

I'm in a good corp now I guess I'm no longer a SCRUB YAY

@ Void

Time to unbunch them panties and pay closer attention. I'm no 'deadpool' minmatar advocate. I run Gal and Cal, and my sole interest is finding a path to four viable, balanced Scouts.

Low Range / High Precision won't serve much purpose for the Cal. I'd much prefer to see my CalScout get some value out of running Range Extenders in its lows. I'll be able to work around not seeing every Scout. But trying to sneak around being squishy, slow, undampened and blind to bogeys well within fine rifle range? That's the wreck I'm hoping to avoid.

Cooldown would be more attractive than range/angle.
Thoughts?

'Deadpool' Minmatar.

With a name like that?

You'll always suck

*unzips*

You not making cal a scout by forcing range extenders in the lows with efficacy bonuses. as all you min keep saying over and over again. being on tac-net makes them useless. your making cal even more useless as the cal only has 2 lows and you want them to only have 1 bonus and the only way to get that one bonus is to use the 2 low slots for range. no more room for dampeners. no reason to have a cloak either. hey i have an idea lets just call them the scout logi because they have 2 free eq slots as they dont need a useless cloak. we done have the amarr scout assault. now if we can just find a new place for the gal so us min scouts can be the scout scout. what can we make the gal? oh oh i know how about a scout sentinal since hey we got all the room for armor now that we dont need dampeners no more. yeah that fits well. scout sentinal. when do we get our heavy weapon slot?
Ill say it every day untill min porposal has efficacy bonuse set on min the same as the rest of the scouts. you want to force our role then force the min role. efficacy to hacking NK's, speed and all the other innate min bonuses they get.

If your going to take away the cal precision then they need to be able to dampen to 14 the same as the other 3 scouts period.
if your going to foce roles with efficacy so be it with all 4 of them not just the non min period.

my solution would be
move range to highs with the cal bonus to range so they to can dampen well and take advantage of there bonus to range.
move codebreakers to highs and add efficacy bonus to min for hacking.

That would be the only way I could agree with the proposal.

I run my cal as a sniper and dampening is important even though it is not the best but at range the best dampening is not needed. I liked the precision only for short range awareness but would trade the bonus for range if range mods were a high slot mod. 2 range 2 dmg 2 dampeners would be my ideal cal sniper

Moving range to high is a bad idea because then the caldari scout could have its cake, eat it, and then rub every other scout's nose in the crumbs.

That would be an invisible scout that could scan everything as well. It's about choice. With 2 complex damps you can avoid everything practical. You shouldn't be able to have racial bonuses to scanning and have the modules avoid taking up dampening slots. If you want to be paranoid about being scanned the Gallente Scout is there to hold your hand but straight up if you want to Calscout gotta sacrifice something.

However I agree with you in that forcing a range extender efficacy bonus on the calscout is bad. I believe that so because of the amount of low slots a Cal has: module efficacy bonuses need to correlate to slot layout so you're not completely boning/removing options from the fit. Dampening would work with a Gallente because it has many lows to work with thus it doesn't lose much fitting diversity to it.

Lastly I wish the old universal scout bonus was back (dampening) but CCP won't give that back so we can't have a perfect world where all scouts can effectively be super low profile.

And that is why I disagree with range in the high. I could have wrote more, in depth, with more detail and explanation but....

also DPLAK..

look.. I'm ******* broke, I thought by now CCP would have gotten some kind of modicum of **** together so I'd be a billionaire in dust already. since that isn;t happening, I'm selling my votes for CCP.

Yup. Mollerz is a *****. Bred in Chicago.

Gimme ISK and I will give you votes. at least 7 or 8 of them

I just want to knife for a bit. And this is the only way I can do it without grinding.. cause I am not grinding dust anymore.

IF not.. I will obviously vote for some people.

IWS tho- you gotta pay. I would have voted for you, but you should be able to afford me. And think like it's xmas time.

Appia is a shoe in, but damn girl- help a brother out