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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
60
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:08:00 -
[1561] - Quote
Lucifalic wrote:Anyone ever explain why advanced gal scout has a 2/2 slot layout and not a 1/3?? God I would love to have 1/3
So would I. |

Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1418
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:09:00 -
[1562] - Quote
Ruthless Lee wrote:Lucifalic wrote:Anyone ever explain why advanced gal scout has a 2/2 slot layout and not a 1/3?? God I would love to have 1/3 So would I. It's mystery but CCP confirmed that it is by design: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1275221#post1275221 |

Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
60
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:14:00 -
[1563] - Quote
Hm. Well, intentional or not ... it seems flawed. Ah, well... |

Canaan Knute
Conspiratus Immortalis
117
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:23:00 -
[1564] - Quote
Nestil wrote:well idk how i even manage to constantly increase my KDR from day to day... i mean i'm not even a sniper ( i run SG) and i go head on (yeah in know stupid) against pro assaults, logis and heavies like a crazy kamikaze fighter O.o every day before i log out and i look at my stats screen (isk/sp..) i'm like ''WTF....my KDR increased again!?"
btw i'm regreting that i didnt spec into racial minmatar scout suit... the profile damping bonus would be really handy nowadays (back then it wasnt that necessary).... well i got all the way to proto and i'm using my proto suit never -.- waste of SP... as well as wasting my Sp into Nova Knives which i dont use ... oh and the flaylocks which i stopped using too...
sad scout is a sad scout (Q.Q) I skilled into nova knives and flaylocks too, but I rarely use them. Working on the racial Minmatar suit as we speak. Fortunately, I didn't level up the Minmatar Scout Dropsuits skill past III. |

IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
45
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:10:00 -
[1565] - Quote
Canaan Knute wrote:Nestil wrote:well idk how i even manage to constantly increase my KDR from day to day... i mean i'm not even a sniper ( i run SG) and i go head on (yeah in know stupid) against pro assaults, logis and heavies like a crazy kamikaze fighter O.o every day before i log out and i look at my stats screen (isk/sp..) i'm like ''WTF....my KDR increased again!?"
btw i'm regreting that i didnt spec into racial minmatar scout suit... the profile damping bonus would be really handy nowadays (back then it wasnt that necessary).... well i got all the way to proto and i'm using my proto suit never -.- waste of SP... as well as wasting my Sp into Nova Knives which i dont use ... oh and the flaylocks which i stopped using too...
sad scout is a sad scout (Q.Q) I skilled into nova knives and flaylocks too, but I rarely use them. Working on the racial Minmatar suit as we speak. Fortunately, I didn't level up the Minmatar Scout Dropsuits skill past III.
Do you mean fortunately you didn't level up the Minmatar Light Dropsuit skill past 3? If not...what's wrong with L4-5 on the Minnie Scout racial suit? That's what I'm saving for right now... |

Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
999
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:13:00 -
[1566] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Canaan Knute wrote:Nestil wrote:well idk how i even manage to constantly increase my KDR from day to day... i mean i'm not even a sniper ( i run SG) and i go head on (yeah in know stupid) against pro assaults, logis and heavies like a crazy kamikaze fighter O.o every day before i log out and i look at my stats screen (isk/sp..) i'm like ''WTF....my KDR increased again!?"
btw i'm regreting that i didnt spec into racial minmatar scout suit... the profile damping bonus would be really handy nowadays (back then it wasnt that necessary).... well i got all the way to proto and i'm using my proto suit never -.- waste of SP... as well as wasting my Sp into Nova Knives which i dont use ... oh and the flaylocks which i stopped using too...
sad scout is a sad scout (Q.Q) I skilled into nova knives and flaylocks too, but I rarely use them. Working on the racial Minmatar suit as we speak. Fortunately, I didn't level up the Minmatar Scout Dropsuits skill past III. Do you mean fortunately you didn't level up the Minmatar Light Dropsuit skill past 3? If not...what's wrong with L4-5 on the Minnie Scout racial suit? That's what I'm saving for right now...
Go Racial Scout all the way, Duncan. It's dampening bonus is worth the SP. As for the Light Suit skill, there's zero long-term reward in progressing beyond Lvl(3). |

Grave Oblivion
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:13:00 -
[1567] - Quote
anyone finding smg scout better this build compared to shotty scout?
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
262
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:19:00 -
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Grave Oblivion wrote:anyone finding smg scout better this build compared to shotty scout?
ive always used smg it was the first weapon I went proto with I just started using SG this build and the smg this build hits harder and faster I can rip thru shields pretty well with my asault smg's this build also |

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
262
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:27:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Canaan Knute wrote:Nestil wrote:well idk how i even manage to constantly increase my KDR from day to day... i mean i'm not even a sniper ( i run SG) and i go head on (yeah in know stupid) against pro assaults, logis and heavies like a crazy kamikaze fighter O.o every day before i log out and i look at my stats screen (isk/sp..) i'm like ''WTF....my KDR increased again!?"
btw i'm regreting that i didnt spec into racial minmatar scout suit... the profile damping bonus would be really handy nowadays (back then it wasnt that necessary).... well i got all the way to proto and i'm using my proto suit never -.- waste of SP... as well as wasting my Sp into Nova Knives which i dont use ... oh and the flaylocks which i stopped using too...
sad scout is a sad scout (Q.Q) I skilled into nova knives and flaylocks too, but I rarely use them. Working on the racial Minmatar suit as we speak. Fortunately, I didn't level up the Minmatar Scout Dropsuits skill past III. Do you mean fortunately you didn't level up the Minmatar Light Dropsuit skill past 3? If not...what's wrong with L4-5 on the Minnie Scout racial suit? That's what I'm saving for right now... Go Racial Scout all the way, Duncan. It's dampening bonus is worth the SP. As for the Light Suit skill, there's zero long-term reward in progressing beyond Lvl(3). sadly I have light lvl 5 due to the old system where you needed it for proto tiers
like shotty says theres no benefit but if there is anyone skilled into these non racial suits I find armor tanking the gk.O with AR or ASCR and active scanner while playing the distance game is good I would not try and run the basics like you would a racial because the stealth and range amp is not there
I tried running the basic gk.0 with greens & reds and a repper and honest to god I do 5x better with a valor g1 with reds & greens and no repper
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Canaan Knute
Conspiratus Immortalis
117
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:47:00 -
[1570] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Do you mean fortunately you didn't level up the Minmatar Light Dropsuit skill past 3? If not...what's wrong with L4-5 on the Minnie Scout racial suit? That's what I'm saving for right now... Post edited. |
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1157
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:24:00 -
[1571] - Quote
Some hope..
With shotgun and pistol btw |

J0LLY R0G3R
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
87
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:53:00 -
[1572] - Quote
I've been having a ton of fun with dual smgs. They trade off to me, some maps seems I go with dual smgs, others I go with my :shotgun smg remote class.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1005
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:25:00 -
[1573] - Quote
Djinn Marauder: The reason why we Scouts can't have nice things :p |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1033
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:35:00 -
[1574] - Quote
Nerf shotguns and pistols. Buff Mass drivers. |

Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1006
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:42:00 -
[1575] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Nerf shotguns and pistols. Buff Mass drivers.
Lol. Nerf ARs, Aim Assist and Marauder. Then buff MDs, but only when wielded by welter-weights. |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1033
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:44:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:First Prophet wrote:Nerf shotguns and pistols. Buff Mass drivers. Lol. Nerf ARs, Aim Assist and Marauder. Then buff MDs, but only when wielded by welter-weights. Yes. That exactly. In that order. |

KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
979
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:49:00 -
[1577] - Quote
Im actually regretting going minnie scout now. I chose minnie scout over gallante just because of the speed , and because shield ''tanking'' seem smarter at the time,considering how crap everything radar related was. Now, even with both my los slots with profile damps i get detected by scanners, so the only thing i can do is speed tank,but i will always get detected plus map/radar capabilities of the minnie suck compared to gallante. And i dont even use novas... (i tried them but i have always sucked with them TBH)
sights,so now im going Amarr assault since i know its a sure bet.... (i did however think for a LONG time speccn into gal scout,but i decided i've spent enough SP in useless stuff, Scout minnie,commandos,proto fogeguns.etc..)
Its a sad day for this ex-scout.... |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1033
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:58:00 -
[1578] - Quote
Minmatar Scouts need buffs. Buff minmatar scout. |

Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1007
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:18:00 -
[1579] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im actually regretting going minnie scout now. I chose minnie scout over gallante just because of the speed , and because shield ''tanking'' seem smarter at the time,considering how crap everything radar related was. Now, even with both my los slots with profile damps i get detected by scanners, so the only thing i can do is speed tank,but i will always get detected plus map/radar capabilities of the minnie suck compared to gallante. And i dont even use novas... (i tried them but i have always sucked with them TBH)
sights,so now im going Amarr assault since i know its a sure bet.... (i did however think for a LONG time speccn into gal scout,but i decided i've spent enough SP in useless stuff, Scout minnie,commandos,proto fogeguns.etc..)
Its a sad day for this ex-scout....
Racial Scout Lvl(5), Dampening Lvl(3), and a single dampener equipped ... You should be beating scanners far more often than not.
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
981
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:23:00 -
[1580] - Quote
Indeed , the problem is our good friends proto Gal logis, hat there are thousands of them. and they all have proto scanners :/
But you are right...still having only 2 low slots...i dunno... |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
993
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:27:00 -
[1581] - Quote
PLUS is still want an amarr scout >..>
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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
459
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:35:00 -
[1582] - Quote
Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I think since 1.4 my K/D has decreased, my knives have had been useless and assaults are now even more OP. I've been really considering switching to assaults... no deleting DUST. Do what we are all doing lightning and hang on. try mlt assault suit. I'm waiting on 1.5 man. and those damn cloaks. |

Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1186
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:40:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I think since 1.4 my K/D has decreased, my knives have had been useless and assaults are now even more OP. I've been really considering switching to assaults... no deleting DUST. Do what we are all doing lightning and hang on. try mlt assault suit. I'm waiting on 1.5 man. and those damn cloaks. Thing is for me I had hope that 1.4 would improve the scouts, honestly I wanted to quit towards the end of 1.3 but everyone kept on saying to me to hold on till 1.4, that 1.4 would be better, I actually had hope for this patch, and when it turned out to be false hope I was even more put off.
And they have yet to fix the REs still.... |

Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
92
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Posted - 2013.09.11 13:24:00 -
[1584] - Quote
I'm having success with this build as long as I play smart and stealthy. Knowing when to give up on an enemy or when to engage.
.... Then I do the things my clan name suggests and I die horrible groundhog day deaths |

Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1190
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:11:00 -
[1585] - Quote
1.5 has new weapons I hear I'd start saving sp scouts |

Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2357
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:15:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:1.5 has new weapons I hear I'd start saving sp scouts
I assume I'll be getting my Vehicle SP refunded.
So if Scouts get any new weapons that are useful, thats where my SP is going.
I really want that Ion Pistol.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
358
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:34:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:1.5 has new weapons I hear I'd start saving sp scouts I assume I'll be getting my Vehicle SP refunded.So if Scouts get any new weapons that are useful, thats where my SP is going. I really want that Ion Pistol. 
Why?
If the weapons are Combat, Rail and MagSec they will help scouts how they help everyone else. Looking forward to them all the same.
Once again not sure about tacnet changes aiding scouts - sometimes I beast with flanking but not sure if its my profile or the enemy not paying attention. I have had instances where Mediums are just around a corner or behind a rock and fail to show up even though I just saw them.
Stealth can work for most if careful. Scouts only show worth where scanners are being used.
1.6 is our (supposed) salvation unless they sneak some of the love into 1.5 |

Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
292
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:37:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:
1.6 is our (supposed) salvation unless they sneak some of the love into 1.5
Apparently hugs are coming in 1.5 with more to follow in 1.6 |

Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2357
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:53:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:1.5 has new weapons I hear I'd start saving sp scouts I assume I'll be getting my Vehicle SP refunded.So if Scouts get any new weapons that are useful, thats where my SP is going. I really want that Ion Pistol.  Why? If the weapons are Combat, Rail and MagSec they will help scouts how they help everyone else. Looking forward to them all the same. Once again not sure about tacnet changes aiding scouts - sometimes I beast with flanking but not sure if its my profile or the enemy not paying attention. I have had instances where Mediums are just around a corner or behind a rock and fail to show up even though I just saw them. Stealth can work for most if careful. Scouts only show worth where scanners are being used. 1.6 is our (supposed) salvation unless they sneak some of the love into 1.5
Because they're completely reworking vehicles/AV.
Meaning, new skills, new skill descriptions (Possibly), new turrets, new vehicles (Possibly).
They're changing the way AV/Vehicles work, this isn't a nerf or buff, this is a complete rework.
I dont expect a respec, I just expect the SP I have in Vehicle skills to be refunded. |

DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
138
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:55:00 -
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My current pub fit:
Scout G/1 -Series
CRG-3 Shotgun 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade A-19 Stable Active Scanner Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Basic Reactive Plates Basic Reactive Plates
233 Shields 217 Armor 2 Armor reps a second Movement of 5.45 m/s Sprint of 8.01 m/s
Thoughts?
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