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Xx-VxF-xX
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:03:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2175302#post2175302
CCP Rattati wrote: We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1462
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Why are folks not in favor of moving the Gallente Passive Rep to Amarr?
Because then it would be against the races philosophy.
Also because they don't want their ez mode scout needed in anyway.
Delt for CPM1
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
940
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:12:00 -
[14433] - Quote
Xx-VxF-xX wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2175302#post2175302 CCP Rattati wrote: We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.
The cloak / ewar changes alone will have drastic effect.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
468
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:18:00 -
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Poor Poor Minmatar
Guess this makes my decision for me. Xbox tomorrow and PS for my bday.
I guess i'll still mess around in pubs if I'm bored and obviously check in here from time to time. See you guys in Destiny.
A whole thread and not one change to Gallente
An extra 2 PG on plates to a race that already has an abundance of PG - didnt see the speed penalties though, may have missed them in my rage.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1712
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:20:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Why are folks not in favor of moving the Gallente Passive Rep to Amarr?
Does the King Gallente Scout really need it? Doesn't the Amarr Scout need something?
We all expected the Amarr Scout to be the go-to brick-tank ... IMHO, shifting the bonus to Amarr makes the most sense.
Please enlighten me, Brothers :-) Lore doesn't work that way, as far as I know. Gallente self repair, Amarr slap plates on I mean, I like the rep, but I could live without.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
468
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:25:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Why are folks not in favor of moving the Gallente Passive Rep to Amarr?
Does the King Gallente Scout really need it? Doesn't the Amarr Scout need something?
We all expected the Amarr Scout to be the go-to brick-tank ... IMHO, shifting the bonus to Amarr makes the most sense.
Please enlighten me, Brothers :-) Lore doesn't work that way, as far as I know. Gallente self repair, Amarr slap plates on I mean, I like the rep, but I could live without.
So decrease Gal repair to +1 if they are hell bent on keeping that bonus and give Amarr a fitting cost reduction to ferro/reactive or speed penalty reduction to regular.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Xx-VxF-xX
Void of Faction
58
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:28:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Xx-VxF-xX wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2175302#post2175302 CCP Rattati wrote: We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.
The cloak / ewar changes alone will have drastic effect. yes they will unless they are counted as scout changes. I really do feel sorry for the min scout. cal not so much because they will be able to see anything that can see them. amarr, lol
cloak duration i can live with. ran 2x dampeners a a lot anyway on my gal to remain off tac-net when not cloaked. so yeah gal like me will not be affected in the EZ-mode gal. reactive cpu/pg change will allow me to run tac ar on my dragonfly for the real EZ-mode, lol
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1465
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:29:00 -
[14438] - Quote
Master Smurf wrote:Spademan wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Why are folks not in favor of moving the Gallente Passive Rep to Amarr?
Does the King Gallente Scout really need it? Doesn't the Amarr Scout need something?
We all expected the Amarr Scout to be the go-to brick-tank ... IMHO, shifting the bonus to Amarr makes the most sense.
Please enlighten me, Brothers :-) Lore doesn't work that way, as far as I know. Gallente self repair, Amarr slap plates on I mean, I like the rep, but I could live without. So decrease Gal repair to +1 if they are hell bent on keeping that bonus and give Amarr a fitting cost reduction to ferro/reactive or speed penalty reduction to regular.
Or.......
Allow only the amarr scout to fix regular plates and restrict all other scouts to ferrow/reactive.
Then give amarr scouts the 'skill' to reduce armour plate speed modifiers per level.
Delt for CPM1
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
940
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:35:00 -
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Xx-VxF-xX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Xx-VxF-xX wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2175302#post2175302 CCP Rattati wrote: We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.
The cloak / ewar changes alone will have drastic effect. yes they will unless they are counted as scout changes. I really do feel sorry for the min scout. cal not so much because they will be able to see anything that can see them. amarr, lol cloak duration i can live with. ran 2x dampeners a a lot anyway on my gal to remain off tac-net when not cloaked. so yeah gal like me will not be affected in the EZ-mode gal. reactive cpu/pg change will allow me to run tac ar on my dragonfly for the real EZ-mode, lol
300HP Gal is EZ-mode now? Good luck taking on a sentinel :-)
Agreed on Minmatar. Concerned. Moody's doing a good job explaining the problem.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1466
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
300HP Gal is EZ-mode now? Good luck taking on a sentinel :-)
Agreed on Minmatar. Concerned. Moody's doing a good job explaining the problem.
300 HP is ez mode.
My regular min scout runs around that will less advantages.
Delt for CPM1
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
940
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:50:00 -
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Old EZ Mode CalLogi / GalLogi + AR
New EZ Mode Blaster Tank
"EZ Mode" has never existed under threat of instagib.
Get your terms straight, noobs. Don't make me issue slaps.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1712
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Old EZ Mode CalLogi / GalLogi + AR
New EZ Mode Blaster Tank
"EZ Mode" has never existed under threat of instagib.
Get your terms straight, noobs. Don't make me issue slaps.
Can we just stop with the term "EZ-Mode" It just looks wrong in every way.
Anyway, for now, can we just ask CCP to change the Assaults before scouts, and then bring the Min and Amarr scouts up? Just a thought, what if the Min scouts aren't meant to hide, what if they were given more speed? What if the Amarr was given increased Jump height and a reduction to the percentage of stamina it uses?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1466
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:19:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Old EZ Mode CalLogi / GalLogi + AR
New EZ Mode Blaster Tank
"EZ Mode" has never existed under threat of instagib.
Get your terms straight, noobs. Don't make me issue slaps.
Can we just stop with the term "EZ-Mode" It just looks wrong in every way. Anyway, for now, can we just ask CCP to change the Assaults before scouts, and then bring the Min and Amarr scouts up? Just a thought, what if the Min scouts aren't meant to hide, what if they were given more speed? What if the Amarr was given increased Jump height and a reduction to the percentage of stamina it uses?
CCP won't give mins more speed because it breaks hit detection.
Delt for CPM1
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1180
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:25:00 -
[14444] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Old EZ Mode CalLogi / GalLogi + AR
New EZ Mode Blaster Tank
"EZ Mode" has never existed under threat of instagib.
Get your terms straight, noobs. Don't make me issue slaps.
Can we just stop with the term "EZ-Mode" It just looks wrong in every way. Anyway, for now, can we just ask CCP to change the Assaults before scouts, and then bring the Min and Amarr scouts up? Just a thought, what if the Min scouts aren't meant to hide, what if they were given more speed? What if the Amarr was given increased Jump height and a reduction to the percentage of stamina it uses? I quite liked this idea. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=163251&find=unread
Amarr gets a bonus to assist with light assault duties by being able to scan medium and heavies at range, while unable to counter other scouts.
Also reduces effectiveness of the Cal at range, to balance the precision.
Knowledge is power
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
382
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:37:00 -
[14445] - Quote
Had a look, interesting... The absurd cost on ferros has pissed me off a lot. For so much less fitting and a slight loss of movement I can get so much more HP from a damn militia plate.
The constant over reliance on cloak has been a bit silly, though I'll admit I do it a bit as well. Halving use time seems a bit much, would've gone instead for doubling recharge time.
No more sitting... hiding in plain sight as red after red walks past. Or crouched in a red nanohive while a heavy walks up, refills on ammo and walks away.
Nice to see a buff to rep mods, I've been quietly hoping for that for a while. Don't really care about the Gal armour reps. Sure, give it to the Amarr, why not. That **** came out of left field anyway.
But whatever. Good, bad or neither I'll adapt and survive. Just get the ******* scrubs out of my suit.
And I just redid all my builds too.
Bugger.
Edit: Why are they asking us what the problem is? Just go watch a NS ambush. "See what they're doing? Yeah nerf that." They're great for balance testing.
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Xx-VxF-xX
Void of Faction
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Posted - 2014.05.23 13:52:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Xx-VxF-xX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Xx-VxF-xX wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2175302#post2175302 CCP Rattati wrote: We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.
The cloak / ewar changes alone will have drastic effect. yes they will unless they are counted as scout changes. I really do feel sorry for the min scout. cal not so much because they will be able to see anything that can see them. amarr, lol cloak duration i can live with. ran 2x dampeners a a lot anyway on my gal to remain off tac-net when not cloaked. so yeah gal like me will not be affected in the EZ-mode gal. reactive cpu/pg change will allow me to run tac ar on my dragonfly for the real EZ-mode, lol 200-300HP Gal is EZ-mode now? Good luck taking on a sentinel :-) Agreed on Minmatar. Concerned. Moody's doing a good job explaining the problem. your really not good with my sarcasm. tac ar with a dragonfly scout is far from ez-mode in the shotgun/combat rifle world of dust514. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
944
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:55:00 -
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Xx-VxF-xX wrote: your really not good with my sarcasm. tac ar with a dragonfly scout is far from ez-mode in the shotgun/combat rifle world of dust514.
:: scrambles for explanation ::
Ehhh ... errr ... got one!
What if Rattati sneaks into the bar and overhears Scouts calling themselves EZ Mode?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
384
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:52:00 -
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Spademan wrote:[ Can we just stop with the term "EZ-Mode" It just looks wrong in every way.
I actually really dislike the term. I've seen it thrown around at every group by every other group.
Yeah I get annoyed at scrubby exploits/tactics. The player is the scrub, not the build/suit/race.
I ran with slayer logis, some were just tanking it. A few though... looking at their mod load out... hacking mods and the like, they had less HP than the assaults they were with.
They were always going to top the leader-board in kills, but by also being the logi they're not topping the leader-board on the losing team.
Early on one in particular I can think of would have his rep tool on my heavy the majority of the match but still have the same kills or better than me. If I was getting overwhelmed he would switch to his weapon, deal with the issue for me and go back to repping like nothing happened. There was no way I would've done as well as I did with out him.
Looking at his stats, sure his KDR is pretty good, but his W/L I find even more impressive.
I don't like throwing around the term "EZ mode" because there are genuinely good folks in there you're writing off. I get a twinge every-time I see someone here call my sentinel EZ mode. And I'm getting it now with my Gal spook.
Basically, don't let the idiotic name calling make it's way in here, that **** belongs in general, let the plebs rage. This is a safe place...
...Well except for the remotes everywhere...
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3200
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:56:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:[ ...Well except for the remotes everywhere...
You noticed those Now I have to hide more
KRRROOOOOOM
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3204
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:07:00 -
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Well I know the proposed changes will hit my non Gal suits hard it's still not the hard mode we had back in the day.
Hope i did not get to soft
I will Minja the old school way. while the FOTM jump ship or sob in the corner
My Blades are still sharp
On the subject of Minja
Last night had two matches where I busted out the Proto Minja (I only use them in FW usually)
Reds went on Proto rampage and I saw a few tanked out GalsGǪ some Proto Heavies (Mando and Sents)
Said **** this time to stab
Used my cloak to pick my targets and only killed the Proto suits
Several times I literally ran through a group of starter fits to Knife a Proto Heavy, and slipped away in the confusion of the newbros.
The second match i made a personal challenge to cause no newbro collateral damage, it was actually very fun to do.
I think one of them even understood what I was doing. I killed a Proto in front of him, and he switched to a hive and crouched in front of meGǪ and sat there until I ran off.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1905
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:19:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Well I know the proposed changes will hit my non Gal suits hard it's still not the hard mode we had back in the day. Hope i did not get to soft I will Minja the old school way. while the FOTM jump ship or sob in the corner My Blades are still sharp On the subject of Minja Last night had two matches where I busted out the Proto Minja (I only use them in FW usually) Reds went on Proto rampage and I saw a few tanked out GalsGǪ some Proto Heavies (Mando and Sents) Said **** this time to stab Used my cloak to pick my targets and only killed the Proto suits ...
Llast bro:
I was trying to figure out a reason to deviate from skilling up Minnie Logi and perhaps skill up Mini scout (since I never cap out on Matticus and get to switch to Lan, my min scout)
You may have just given me a reason! Hm.... (plus I got 80 AUR proto suits to burn from the shinobi event....)
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3207
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:21:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Well I know the proposed changes will hit my non Gal suits hard it's still not the hard mode we had back in the day. Hope i did not get to soft I will Minja the old school way. while the FOTM jump ship or sob in the corner My Blades are still sharp On the subject of Minja Last night had two matches where I busted out the Proto Minja (I only use them in FW usually) Reds went on Proto rampage and I saw a few tanked out GalsGǪ some Proto Heavies (Mando and Sents) Said **** this time to stab Used my cloak to pick my targets and only killed the Proto suits ... Llast bro: I was trying to figure out a reason to deviate from skilling up Minnie Logi and perhaps skill up Mini scout (since I never cap out on Mattics and get to switch to Lan, my min scout) You may have just given me a reason! Hm.... (plus I got 80 AUR proto suits to burn from the shinobi event....)
I helped \o/
I still have 300+ Proto suits from the even
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1722
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:32:00 -
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New SP event coming on the 28th, just like the last one, 5x warpoint SP, 3x cap.
In other news: I tried out the bolt pistol, it was pretty decent, but I just didn't take to it nearly as much as I did the Ion. I skilled into kincats finally, they were alright, don't see myself using them much though (unless they're godly at complex?) I used the Plasma Rifle for the first time since the Scrambler Rifle came out. I am amazingly rusty with it. And finally, I am 4 weapons away from having every weapon at ADV level (Forge gun, HMG, Shotgun and NK)
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
966
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:00:00 -
[14454] - Quote
Better to continue the back-and-forth ... Or let them make the mistake and hope they fix it quickly?
Where is IWS in all of this?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:03:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Better to continue the back-and-forth ... Or let them make the mistake and hope they fix it quickly?
Where is IWS in all of this?
I am afraid he has been of no help since FF.
"I've made a huge mistake."
-G.O.B. Bluth
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3211
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Better to continue the back-and-forth ... Or let them make the mistake and hope they fix it quickly?
Where is IWS in all of this?
I don't know I tried to get an answer about a minor PG buff to the Min and no answerGǪ
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2562
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:14:00 -
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I skilled up all 5 Gallente suits the other day. Sentinel, Commando, and Assault are only LVL 1 but I wanted to make pure Gallente fits so I ran my Toxin AR. Fun. I might actually put SP into that weapon now that it won't be flaylock bad.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3211
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:21:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:I skilled up all 5 Gallente suits the other day. Sentinel, Commando, and Assault are only LVL 1 but I wanted to make pure Gallente fits so I ran my Toxin AR. Fun. I might actually put SP into that weapon now that it won't be flaylock bad. Nice, Skilled AR last weekGǪ decided to get all Gal Weapons on my Gal accountGǪ because I had almost all anyway
Using the Tac AR as my quasi Urban Sniper Rifle, but mostly relying on the Ion for my kills. Bust out the Tac to take down unsuspecting targets of opportunity. Works fairly well on many maps. Tac damage is somewhat lacking in comparison to using the ScR in the same way.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2564
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:45:00 -
[14459] - Quote
I can't for the life of me use the Tac AR. the recoil is just insane. Which the ScR doesn't have so I'll use that instead.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1634
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Posted - 2014.05.24 00:20:00 -
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Rattati siting.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176684#post2176684
"I've made a huge mistake."
-G.O.B. Bluth
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