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pseudosnipre wrote:

Things in 1.4 that make me happy:
-Audio cue of breaking glass when shields get hit. Makes fight/flight response kick-in!
-Audio cue of scout grunting when armor gets hit. Humanizes the clone and me sad when he dies.
-Footsteps, footsteps everywhere!
-Tacnet is blank unless you active scan....then laugh as your entire team orients to their position in unison
-NOBODY sees you coming, although random sniper rounds are still annoying
-Starmap planet skins give a sense of awe and wonder
-My M1s are deadlier as a pre-emptive attack just prior to SG flank. Airburst ftw!

Things in 1.4 that make me sad:
-EVERYTHING seems to hit harder at medium and CQC...except SG.
-My ability to speed through an enemy squad now results in death more often than not
-Ambush queue puts me in domination matches
-Jerky framerate issues have returned
-SMG no longer the killing machine it was yesterday

Do all player types moan the same way when they take a hit. My scout sounds like a teenage boy, which makes me sad for at least two different reasons. Do heavies grunt like....well, men? Do female characters grunt like women (#fapfap)?

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Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 433	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:30:00 - [1381] - Quote I'm proud to say that I survived 1.3 with a 1.4 k/d. Coincidence? I think not. I hope that for 1.5 I don't just end with a 1.6 k/d. It's all about the cool kills that matter to me. It's about the rush, it's about thos cqc moments that feel long. It's about the sharphooting snipers. I hope the game starts to reward clever players for their tactics. I'm ready for a game, I have died too many times to game mechanics, about 90% of the time. I want to see us rise and kill more effectively. Everytime I play, it's like I'm directing my own ninja, spy-movie. I hope you do too! It's almost too intense to play sometimes. My heart races, I get frustrated at the stupid deaths. I get super happy when I do the unthinkable though. My corpmate txtd me saying "niuvo ftw!!" when he saw me infiltrate, hack and defend "A" on dom. I was solo so, was he. He was sniping on our side watching me lol. Later I found that he was in game. After I got the hack, he defended it beautifully with a charged SR. What helps me alot get into that scout/ninja movie mode is by putting music on my ps3. I flow with the music. I hope the scout gets better and better bros.
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 790	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:35:00 - [1382] - Quote Pseudosnipre put up the first 1.4 Shotgun Bug thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1253061 Give it a bump with your observations.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 140	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:36:00 - [1383] - Quote Things in 1.4 that make me happy: -Audio cue of breaking glass when shields get hit. Makes fight/flight response kick-in! -Audio cue of scout grunting when armor gets hit. Humanizes the clone and me sad when he dies. -Footsteps, footsteps everywhere! -Tacnet is blank unless you active scan....then laugh as your entire team orients to their position in unison -NOBODY sees you coming, although random sniper rounds are still annoying -Starmap planet skins give a sense of awe and wonder -My M1s are deadlier as a pre-emptive attack just prior to SG flank. Airburst ftw! Things in 1.4 that make me sad: -EVERYTHING seems to hit harder at medium and CQC...except SG. -My ability to speed through an enemy squad now results in death more often than not -Ambush queue puts me in domination matches -Jerky framerate issues have returned -SMG no longer the killing machine it was yesterday Do all player types moan the same way when they take a hit. My scout sounds like a teenage boy, which makes me sad for at least two different reasons. Do heavies grunt like....well, men? Do female characters grunt like women (#fapfap)?
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 143	Posted - 2013.09.03 15:40:00 - [1384] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Things in 1.4 that make me happy: -Audio cue of breaking glass when shields get hit. Makes fight/flight response kick-in! -Audio cue of scout grunting when armor gets hit. Humanizes the clone and me sad when he dies. -Footsteps, footsteps everywhere! -Tacnet is blank unless you active scan....then laugh as your entire team orients to their position in unison -NOBODY sees you coming, although random sniper rounds are still annoying -Starmap planet skins give a sense of awe and wonder -My M1s are deadlier as a pre-emptive attack just prior to SG flank. Airburst ftw! Things in 1.4 that make me sad: -EVERYTHING seems to hit harder at medium and CQC...except SG. -My ability to speed through an enemy squad now results in death more often than not -Ambush queue puts me in domination matches -Jerky framerate issues have returned -SMG no longer the killing machine it was yesterday Do all player types moan the same way when they take a hit. My scout sounds like a teenage boy, which makes me sad for at least two different reasons. Do heavies grunt like....well, men? Do female characters grunt like women (#fapfap)? Confirmed. women make a female sounding grunt! Per Reevira she "sounds like she is having digestive issues."
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 393	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:08:00 - [1385] - Quote Now that 1.4 has been released anyone able to confirm how our class has been impacted? Shotgun/Nova Knife hit detection fixed? Survival rates? I don't get to play until after work but i'm impatient
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 805	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:14:00 - [1386] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Now that 1.4 has been released anyone able to confirm how our class has been impacted? Shotgun/Nova Knife hit detection fixed? Survival rates? I don't get to play until after work but i'm impatient Not looking too hot for CQC Scouts, Bardas ... Mixed reports on Nova Knives. Negative on Shotgun fix. Worse than ever. Hopefully temporary and hotfixable. Hostiles (namely, ARs) are tracking/dropping us more consistently than before. As far as design goes UI, visuals and new maps are slick.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 393	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:17:00 - [1387] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: BARDAS wrote: Now that 1.4 has been released anyone able to confirm how our class has been impacted? Shotgun/Nova Knife hit detection fixed? Survival rates? I don't get to play until after work but i'm impatient Not looking too hot for CQC Scouts, Bardas ... Mixed reports on Nova Knives. Negative on Shotgun fix. Worse than ever. Hopefully temporary and hotfixable. Hostiles (namely, ARs) are tracking/dropping us more consistently than before. As far as design goes UI, visuals and new maps are slick. Well not exactly what I was hoping to hear. sigh Guess I will check it out when I get online tonight.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 327	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:22:00 - [1388] - Quote I wish they would just drop kbm support - it would have saved them so much time balancing and re-working things and we would have got more great content. Cant wait to get home and try the new map
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 49	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:25:00 - [1389] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Things in 1.4 that make me sad: -EVERYTHING seems to hit harder at medium and CQC...except SG. -My ability to speed through an enemy squad now results in death more often than not -Ambush queue puts me in domination matches -Jerky framerate issues have returned -SMG no longer the killing machine it was yesterday The first is what I was expecting - no more darting between tiny pieces of cover to avoid a hail of proto AR death I guess :( The second bit though...did I miss something in the patch notes or is it something attributed to the other changes they made? I'm getting impatient - the train home is taking far too long to arrive...
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 145	Posted - 2013.09.03 17:26:00 - [1390] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: I wish they would just drop kbm support - it would have saved them so much time balancing and re-working things and we would have got more great content. Cant wait to get home and try the new map Hopefully they'll just leave both schemes alone for awhile. I'd gotten used to the accelerated rotation BS, but now I get to relearn this new aiming scheme. DS3 w/ auto-aim ~= uncapped mouse. In fact, I'm going to run a few more matches w/ the DS3 on my AR pubscout. o7 pseudo

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1082	Posted - 2013.09.04 02:13:00 - [1391] - Quote Looks like my download is finally going to complete, the problem: I'm scared to sign in
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 394	Posted - 2013.09.04 02:15:00 - [1392] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Looks like my download is finally going to complete, the problem: I'm scared to sign in I can't log in. I downloaded the update and it just sat spinning for ages until I gave up. Will be trying again later.
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 831	Posted - 2013.09.04 02:22:00 - [1393] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Looks like my download is finally going to complete, the problem: I'm scared to sign in If nothing else, you must see the new maps. LogicLoop did a great job here.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 437	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:22:00 - [1394] - Quote In a game I had a neg k/d with 12 deaths_not bad for a scout lol It sucks how wea re trying to break the mold and be different, but we are being punished/over-looked. REs are better, I got me about 6 kills so far. I haven't seen if they still fizzle. I'll be logging in for the bonus. I'll run suicide missions. I encountered ruz0r on the field and we began to dance with knives, I tried to kill him and so did he. blues came to kill him and disturbed our dance, he evaded. I gave chase and a blue and I fell to his RE trap. Well done ruz0r. I get too excited during knife fights.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 914	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 - [1395] - Quote So the new maps are good, goes without saying well done on that. I have mixed feelings about the TacNet changes, but I'm leaning more positive on that so far. Using active scanners has become almost a must for me, and along with the attempted scans I've denied it's helped push me towards feeling a little more "scouty". Since I use scanners more now I've dropped my nanohives so now I have to rely on other people to resupply my MD, which although kind of lame, I guess helps push the game to be more team oriented which would better in the long run I guess. The base scan radius on the scout is a definite issue though. I'm not sure if it's the aim assist or the removed rotation cap but running past enemies to escape is less feasible. And even with multiple shield extenders every stray bullet seems to hurt a a lot more.
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 844	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 - [1396] - Quote First Prophet wrote: I'm not sure if it's the aim assist or the removed rotation cap but running past enemies to escape is less feasible. And even with multiple shield extenders every stray bullet seems to hurt a a lot more. CEOPyrex slows down his frame-rate in this video so you can see how well aim-assist is working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4wmuzjmU&feature=youtu.be I suspect this may be why we're being mowed faster. Off-target shots are hitting us (whereas before, only off-target shots behind our player model would hit us).
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 395	Posted - 2013.09.04 08:52:00 - [1397] - Quote After playing around tonight on my own I came to the following personal opinions about 1.4 PROS: Scanning is fun and useful No shared profiles on the mini map ensure my stealth play is more successful New map is a nice change of pace CONS: Scanning still doesn't give me a WP reward as an incentive to use them Aim assist is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top, especially for us Scouts who now die even easier than before Shotgun hit detection is god awful broken (first hit never registers damage) Nova Knife hit detection is almost as bad as the Shotgun Matchmaking is god awful broken: set my options to Skirmish only and got funneled into ambush and domination matches. Also, got put into matches where there were not full teams on each side. AFK'ers are even more prolific than before and I show not sign of them being kicked as promised. Some seem to be running against the MCC walls... probably using a rubber band on their controller I would assume. Latency issues are back Overall, i'm not very impressed with the update. Hopefully, some of the bugs will be fixed in the coming week or so. Regardless, I think i'm nearing the end of my ropes. Not sure how much longer I will continue on with this game at this rate. Going to play around for another day or so and see if I run into other issues or if things get fixed. Then I will be deciding if I will continue to play or if I will quit playing the game completely until Scouts get some love and just rack up some Passive SP while I play other games.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1085	Posted - 2013.09.04 10:27:00 - [1398] - Quote Well just played a few matches and I have one thing to say : oh ****
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1085	Posted - 2013.09.04 10:37:00 - [1399] - Quote Also: devs confirmed they knew scouts are having trouble and are pretty much putting any fixes on the backburner for the foreseeable future then introduced aim assist back into the game a mechanic that makes it easier to track and kill your target. .............. WTF?
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 260	Posted - 2013.09.04 12:03:00 - [1400] - Quote So, first day of the patch I got landed in a 1v11 Domination on a new map. I was the 1. Ended up destroying 2 tanks, 2 installations, 1 dropship, 3 LAV's, killing 4 infantry, hacking 3 CRU's, 2 Depot's and about 4 installations. Took 3 deaths. Not a bad day.

Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 114	Posted - 2013.09.04 12:50:00 - [1401] - Quote Took the plunge and spent a boatload of SP on scout-related skills. No turning back now. :)
Extraneus Tenebrarum THE BOSSES 35	Posted - 2013.09.04 12:53:00 - [1402] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Took the plunge and spent a boatload of SP on scout-related skills. No turning back now. :) U sir are a mad man! In this aim assist world I salute u!
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 73	Posted - 2013.09.04 13:03:00 - [1403] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Took the plunge and spent a boatload of SP on scout-related skills. No turning back now. :) Yes you are nuts. No turning back is right...if u do u will die to an AR in 1/3 of a second. I didn't think the scout could get much worse. I was wrong Welcome to the club
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 611	Posted - 2013.09.04 13:17:00 - [1404] - Quote still taking applicants? I was a scout exclusively in Chromosome but with Uprising I went shotgun assault in order to wait for the Cal Scout suit. I've waited long enough. I spent 2mil SP on Gal Scout yesterday. Shotgun and Biotics all the way.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 114	Posted - 2013.09.04 13:37:00 - [1405] - Quote Most of my deaths so far have been caused by ARs and scrambler rifles. Seems like the aim assist changes have made it far too easy to kill scouts.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 202	Posted - 2013.09.04 15:59:00 - [1406] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Most of my deaths so far have been caused by ARs and scrambler rifles. Seems like the aim assist changes have made it far too easy to kill scouts. Sniper rifle with aim assist is kinda fun. Give it a go
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.09.04 16:00:00 - [1407] - Quote AR's are the worst of the bunch, GEK's and Duvolles - blink and its over. CCP need to reduce their range a bit if they are going to be that deadly. Thanks for all the analysis on the skills. I have cut off my precision at Lv3 and wont invest in dampening since I only have two low slots. Much respect to Ivan Avogadro who always advocated staying away from it. I may continue to add to my range amplification when I have SP to spare. Had no real issues with tacnet, if you squad it seems fine and thats a good thing. I also had fun with people trying to scan me (lets me know they might be close). A group were trying to enter the facility and scanned three times before they entered that allowed me to alert the heavy hitters to get there and massacre them.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1087	Posted - 2013.09.04 16:12:00 - [1408] - Quote Well my mass driver can't drop what I'm shooting at fast enough contend with the impossible aim of the AR/SCR, especially in a minja suit. My SMG though is rocking dudes sacks may have to use that as a primary and the mass driver to finish guys off lol. Also I may be broke soon because I'm getting thrashed out there I went 11/9 the other day in a domination, if I went anywhere or did anything on my own I was dead before I realized I was being shot at
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2013.09.04 16:34:00 - [1409] - Quote Well my SMG kills a lot better, Passive scanning actually works(only if in range). Overall i like the patch and they said they fix the match making. also i love the new outpost an maps they really are the best yet. Scouts are now officially the most under powered suit in the game.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 916	Posted - 2013.09.04 16:47:00 - [1410] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Well my mass driver can't drop what I'm shooting at fast enough contend with the impossible aim of the AR/SCR, especially in a minja suit. My SMG though is rocking dudes sacks may have to use that as a primary and the mass driver to finish guys off lol. Also I may be broke soon because I'm getting thrashed out there I went 11/9 the other day in a domination, if I went anywhere or did anything on my own I was dead before I realized I was being shot at You should try using the Active Scanner if you haven't already. I was really reluctant to drop my nanohives from my MD fit, but the active scanner is really helpful for getting behind the enemy so you don't go down in a second.



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