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Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1406	Posted - 2014.03.10 07:49:00 - [10981] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gal scout with reflex plates? Anyways there been arguments that a cal scout may be the only thing able to scan down a maxed stealth scout while cloaked, I haven't sat down the math yet. Paging Dr. Haerr IWS needs your Scanning Table! Stat! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsnXUZg58Dj7dGJ6SVZOOExYVzFrMGttV0ZRVkVjNmc&usp=drive_web#gid=1 Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3328	Posted - 2014.03.10 07:50:00 - [10982] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gal scout with reflex plates? Anyways there been arguments that a cal scout may be the only thing able to scan down a maxed stealth scout while cloaked, I haven't sat down the math yet. Paging Mathppia IWS needs your Scanning Table! Stat! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsnXUZg58Dj7dGJ6SVZOOExYVzFrMGttV0ZRVkVjNmc&usp=drive_web#gid=1 TIL Appia is Haerrs Alt Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 328	Posted - 2014.03.10 09:06:00 - [10983] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gal scout with reflex plates? Anyways there been arguments that a cal scout may be the only thing able to scan down a maxed stealth scout while cloaked, I haven't sat down the math yet. Paging Mathppia IWS needs your Scanning Table! Stat! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsnXUZg58Dj7dGJ6SVZOOExYVzFrMGttV0ZRVkVjNmc&usp=drive_web#gid=1 TIL Appia is Haerrs Alt Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK Feedback thread on scanning in 1.8: LINK There we go, oh and IWS I hope you'll pass along this to the rest of the CPM! Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
noob cavman The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 758	Posted - 2014.03.10 12:38:00 - [10984] - Quote So now that my gal is no longer being constantly scanned. I can now play my scout as would my mimi assault. ( GÇó_GÇó) ( GÇó_GÇó)>GîÉGûá-Gûá (GîÉGûá_Gûá) (GîÉGûá_Gûá)____ (Gò»GîÉGûá_Gûá)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ (GîÉGûá_Gûá) ( GÇó_GÇó)>GîÉGûá-Gûá ( GÇó_GÇó) (n+¦n+¦n+¦) (püÑn+ú -¦n+ú)püÑ-á (püÑn+ú -¦n+ú)püÑ .......sç+(GèÖGûéGèÖG£û ) Fear the tea smelling brit mother truckers. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Not Iggy Nos Nothi 72	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:00:00 - [10985] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gal scout with reflex plates? Anyways there been arguments that a cal scout may be the only thing able to scan down a maxed stealth scout while cloaked, I haven't sat down the math yet. We (Cal scouts) will need a small buff to precision to pull that off. I don't even think we have the CPU to fit 4.... IgniteableAura
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2314	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:27:00 - [10986] - Quote Not Iggy wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Gal scout with reflex plates? Anyways there been arguments that a cal scout may be the only thing able to scan down a maxed stealth scout while cloaked, I haven't sat down the math yet. We (Cal scouts) will need a small buff to precision to pull that off. I don't even think we have the CPU to fit 4.... [quote=Matari Scout] tell me about your CPU woes [quote] Here is the question that is on my mind. When we were arguing for scout buff part of the reason was that we were to easily countered by scanners. Essentially Scanners had no counter, ow that that is no longer the case, the discussion has turned to that the Cal scout has one counter? Perhaps IWS can answer this (perhaps NDA no) DId CCP intend for Gal Scout to be one counter to the Cal Scout? We used to use the argument that if you had situational awareness you could still spot a scout, but we are forgoing that argument for the Cal scout, whys that? The cloak, would be my guess, but situational awareness is still valid in that situation to a degree. So what is the priority amount scouts Stealth > Passive Scan Passive Scan > Stealth I honestly don't know what should be the priority Looking at this as what benefits all scouts I am a Bastard above all else. KRRROOOOOOM
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2314	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:35:00 - [10987] - Quote Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death KRRROOOOOOM
noob cavman The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 759	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:51:00 - [10988] - Quote (-¦-¦-¦)he biggest hurdle withthe scout is sp investment. To do our "role"we need to invest a fair amount of sp into. damping. Range. armour. Shields. Regulators and kinkats. equipment of choice. Light Weapon. sidearm(s) All cpu and pg upgrades. Optimising pg. ( for high pg weapons.) Not to mention you need to get level 5 in your suit of choice as quickly as possible for the bounuses(more so with the gal for the damping.... (-¦+ê-¦) thank god my logi,assault skills can be used. Would not want to be a new scout In scan 514 I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1376	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:06:00 - [10989] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Yep - an event made for you, indeed! I just missed you in-game last night; I had to log off and get some sleep just as Ninja spotted your alt in channel. On a secondary note, does anyone else think that this event is evidence that no SP respec is incoming? Either way, extra SP isn't something I'd complain about.... Double posting like a Kaiser. (Homage to Ghost Kaiser's impeccable forum etiquette)
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 191	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:38:00 - [10990] - Quote I thought so with the last SP event and its looking even more so now. I still would prefer a respec as you can always jettison some SP but more on principle especially if we are getting all the suits, there should be one then no matter what. I had my plan to scale back my weapons and max out my scout skills but the damage profile changes has me contemplating keeping them and even picking up the ScP which I havent used since beta. "Shine bright like a diamond"

Llast 326 An Arkhos 2321	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:51:00 - [10991] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Yep - an event made for you, indeed! I just missed you in-game last night; I had to log off and get some sleep just as Ninja spotted your alt in channel. On a secondary note, does anyone else think that this event is evidence that no SP respec is incoming? Either way, extra SP isn't something I'd complain about.... Curses Well another day, we will have to catch up. as to the event ruling out a respec CCP says no it does not rule out a respec Link CCP Logibro wrote: To answer a few questions: Yes Omega boosters will work. We'll try and tweet out some running totals over the weekend for the total number of clones killed. And before anyone panics, don't take this as an indication as to whether or not we're providing a respec with Uprising 1.8. KRRROOOOOOM
jerrmy12 kahoalii TRA1LBLAZERS 416	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:36:00 - [10992] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Yep - an event made for you, indeed! I just missed you in-game last night; I had to log off and get some sleep just as Ninja spotted your alt in channel. On a secondary note, does anyone else think that this event is evidence that no SP respec is incoming? Either way, extra SP isn't something I'd complain about.... Curses Well another day, we will have to catch up. as to the event ruling out a respec CCP says no it does not rule out a respec Link CCP Logibro wrote: To answer a few questions: Yes Omega boosters will work. We'll try and tweet out some running totals over the weekend for the total number of clones killed. And before anyone panics, don't take this as an indication as to whether or not we're providing a respec with Uprising 1.8. I saw earlier but, man I can get 2 proto suits because of these 2 events, currently at 1.7 mil saved, waiting for 150k, then this event... Closed beta vet
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 499	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:35:00 - [10993] - Quote Maybe they are trying to reduce the amount of isk in circulation? Sure, they are giving everyone isk, but if they are reducing the pool by more than 1 million isk per merc then its like a backdoor reduction. Kind of like when they threaten to ubernerf something, then just slightly nerf it and pretend its actually a buff. To me, this seems like it will encourage more protostomping than anything else. Lets face it, too many people care too much about KDR. For most of the player base, this is less, how can I embrace the death than how can I kill as many people as humanly possible. I don't even know if the game will be playable this weekend. Then again, I thought the shinobi event was going to be a scout massacre, and that never panned out. I hope I am wrong this time too. @Llast I am digging the unique use of quotes in your posts. If you aren't the first person to do this, you are certainly the first I have noticed. Way to bring forum meta to a new level! Looking for the scout hangout?
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 889	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:54:00 - [10994] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Maybe they are trying to reduce the amount of isk in circulation? Sure, they are giving everyone isk, but if they are reducing the pool by more than 1 million isk per merc then its like a backdoor reduction. I think you misread, the prize is 1 million Skill Points, not ISK. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 501	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:05:00 - [10995] - Quote Spademan wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Maybe they are trying to reduce the amount of isk in circulation? Sure, they are giving everyone isk, but if they are reducing the pool by more than 1 million isk per merc then its like a backdoor reduction. I think you misread, the prize is 1 million Skill Points, not ISK. Totally misread. Looking for the scout hangout?
voidfaction Void of Faction 179	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:12:00 - [10996] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Do a good job for me. My Dark Soul will be somewhere else starting tomorrow.
Not Iggy Nos Nothi 74	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:14:00 - [10997] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Here is the question that is on my mind. When we were arguing for scout buff part of the reason was that we were to easily countered by scanners. Essentially Scanners had no counter, ow that that is no longer the case, the discussion has turned to that the Cal scout has one counter? Perhaps IWS can answer this (perhaps NDA no) DId CCP intend for Gal Scout to be one counter to the Cal Scout? We used to use the argument that if you had situational awareness you could still spot a scout, but we are forgoing that argument for the Cal scout, whys that? The cloak, would be my guess, but situational awareness is still valid in that situation to a degree. So what is the priority amount scouts Stealth > Passive Scan Passive Scan > Stealth I honestly don't know what should be the priority Looking at this as what benefits all scouts I am a Bastard above all else. Its ALWAYS better to be unseen. So the Gal wins over the Cal every day. The Gal only needs to fit two complex PE to see all the other scouts. The Cal needs to fit 4 cPE to see the Gal. Again its better to be unseen than see others IMO. Because with the current scout meta, it will likely be one or the other. (see others or be unseen) In that sense the Gal scout is probably the best "scout" IMO. It has the scan range to hunt a majority of other frames and can stay hidden from all but the most drastic and dedicated scanners. All the other scouts will likely be seen to some extent. In that sense I feel the Gal is likely to be a bit OP as it has no real drawbacks (slot layout is ideal, innate reps, good pg/cpu etc.). But time will tell. IgniteableAura
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2330	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:15:00 - [10998] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Do a good job for me. My Dark Soul will be somewhere else starting tomorrow. Make sure you get your 10 matches in for the weekend though. I will contribute many deaths to this event My own and others KRRROOOOOOM
voidfaction Void of Faction 179	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:18:00 - [10999] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: voidfaction wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death Do a good job for me. My Dark Soul will be somewhere else starting tomorrow. Make sure you get your 10 matches in for the weekend though. I will contribute many deaths to this event My own and others my 10 matches will surely help out with the 1 million clones. I die a lot
voidfaction Void of Faction 184	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:32:00 - [11000] - Quote in this event my 3/20 matches will help more than those redline snipers 15/0 if everyone is smart they will all run starter fits and zerg the whole event and not use injectors. [edit] is there a milita mass driver?

Patrick57 5944	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:32:00 - [11001] - Quote I need some Scouty opinions on this. :3 So, after 1.8, my Caldari Scout fitting will look like this. With the two Dampeners, I can avoid all Proto scans IIRC, and with the Cloak active I can avoid Gallente Proto Focused Scans. :3 Is this a good stealthy fit, or is having nearly 75% Profile Dampening a bit too much? I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 197	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:59:00 - [11002] - Quote voidfaction wrote: in this event my 3/20 matches will help more than those redline snipers 15/0 if everyone is smart they will all run starter fits and zerg the whole event and not use injectors. [edit] is there a milita mass driver? Or in my case (and some others) bpo scout suit, bpo shotgun, bpo Scp etc. We could come up with some games to play. Skydiving from a CRU dropship dropping corpses onto reds. Bumper Dropships? Get melee kills while holding nova knives (not with them, just while holding them, is there even an animation for that?). Speed tanked PLC only squad. Jihadi Dropships (with full squad on board) Sync against eatch other and have Jihadi Jeep demolition derbys. Shotgun/NK squad, squad leader puts an attack order on a red, first to kill gets a point, rinse and repeat, at the end of the match whoever has the most points gets paid 100k from each of the other players. Squadleader should try and pick the same red each time (poor guy "why are they always coming after me?"). I don't think there's a militia mass driver. IIRC when I wanted to try the MD I had to use some Minnie LP.
J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 599	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:19:00 - [11003] - Quote Gal scouts might end up alittle op? Oh no please don't tell me that XD On the possibility of respec or not passed on this event: from reddit- [GÇô]sswarrenDrae Rel - BurgezzE.T.F - Logi-Sniper 2 points 6 hours ago I'm going to take this as confirmation of no respec. [GÇô]CCP_LogibroCCP Employee[S] 5 points 6 hours ago I wouldn't. Not saying either way, but I wouldn't take this as an indicator of whether there's a respec or not. XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
voidfaction Void of Faction 187	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:41:00 - [11004] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I need some Scouty opinions on this. :3 So, after 1.8, my Caldari Scout fitting will look like this. With the two Dampeners, I can avoid all Proto scans IIRC, and with the Cloak active I can avoid Gallente Proto Focused Scans. :3 Is this a good stealthy fit, or is having nearly 75% Profile Dampening a bit too much? uncloaked 18dB profile cloaked 16db profile logi with 3 precision 24dB caldari scout with 2 precision 20dB proto focused scan 20dB caldari scout with 3 precision 18dB <------- caldari scout with 4 precision 17dB <------- gal proto focused scan 15dB <--------------- anything that can see you will be at a shield disadvantage for your combat rifle to tear apart aside from the gal scout with focused scanner.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 502	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:43:00 - [11005] - Quote I thought cloaking would reduce profile 25%. Wouldn't that make an 18 dB suit 13.5 dB? Looking for the scout hangout?
Patrick57 5950	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:44:00 - [11006] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I need some Scouty opinions on this. :3 So, after 1.8, my Caldari Scout fitting will look like this. With the two Dampeners, I can avoid all Proto scans IIRC, and with the Cloak active I can avoid Gallente Proto Focused Scans. :3 Is this a good stealthy fit, or is having nearly 75% Profile Dampening a bit too much? uncloaked 18dB profile cloaked 16db profile logi with 3 precision 24dB caldari scout with 2 precision 20dB proto focused scan 20dB caldari scout with 3 precision 18dB <------- caldari scout with 4 precision 17dB <------- gal proto focused scan 15dB <--------------- anything that can see you will be at a shield disadvantage for your combat rifle to tear apart aside from the gal scout with focused scanner. Aw ****. :( I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
Patrick57 5950	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:46:00 - [11007] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I thought cloaking would reduce profile 25%. Wouldn't that make an 18 dB suit 13.5 dB? A Caldari Scout with two Proto Dampeners comes out to 20.55. So, 16 is accurate. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
voidfaction Void of Faction 187	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:49:00 - [11008] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: voidfaction wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I need some Scouty opinions on this. :3 So, after 1.8, my Caldari Scout fitting will look like this. With the two Dampeners, I can avoid all Proto scans IIRC, and with the Cloak active I can avoid Gallente Proto Focused Scans. :3 Is this a good stealthy fit, or is having nearly 75% Profile Dampening a bit too much? uncloaked 18dB profile cloaked 16db profile logi with 3 precision 24dB caldari scout with 2 precision 20dB proto focused scan 20dB caldari scout with 3 precision 18dB <------- caldari scout with 4 precision 17dB <------- gal proto focused scan 15dB <--------------- anything that can see you will be at a shield disadvantage for your combat rifle to tear apart aside from the gal scout with focused scanner. Aw ****. :( edit: Wait, uncloaked I will have a profile of 20.55 (damn I hope the maths on ProtoFits.com is right...), but you're right about the cloaked profile. Well that sucks. :( yeah, I had hoped or wish the caldari scout had the 3H/3L
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 502	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:57:00 - [11009] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I thought cloaking would reduce profile 25%. Wouldn't that make an 18 dB suit 13.5 dB? A Caldari Scout with two Proto Dampeners comes out to 20.55. So, 16 is accurate. edit: But, if I put an Enhanced Profile Dampener in place of one of the Complex, my profile gets lower. O_O Now I'm confused even more. :( Probably has to do with the stacking penalty? Maybe it doesn't count if the module is of a different tier? I am just spittballing. Looking for the scout hangout?
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 678	Posted - 2014.03.10 22:01:00 - [11010] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Double posting like a Kaiser This new Event was made for me Embrace the Death There goes my KDR again, time to play spambush Does anyone know if this is a per-character reward, or per account? From the language of the event it appears to be per character. Would be very helpful for my knife alt Knowledge is power



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