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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
724
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:36:00 -
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Is this only while using heavy weapons? 'Cause if not it'll give me an excuse to run around in my Mlt heavy with shotgun
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Driftoward
Nos Nothi
71
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:57:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Is this only while using heavy weapons? 'Cause if not it'll give me an excuse to run around in my Mlt heavy with shotgun
The bonuses while running heavy suits apply only to kills with HMG or forgegun. You're welcome to try and kill other heavies using a heavy shotgunner though. (easier target for me to kill with my scout shotgun!)
Driftward alt. Its a secret, shhhh....
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
724
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:19:00 -
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Driftoward wrote:Spademan wrote:Is this only while using heavy weapons? 'Cause if not it'll give me an excuse to run around in my Mlt heavy with shotgun The bonuses while running heavy suits apply only to kills with HMG or forgegun. You're welcome to try and kill other heavies using a heavy shotgunner though. (easier target for me to kill with my scout shotgun!)
Oh no, I've found that the heavy shotgun is the ultimate in anti shotgun antics.
Also, it feels like it suffers less from hit detection issues. Still there, but less so.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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noob cavman
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
600
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:25:00 -
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I think I have to try out the heavy shotgun. Seems fun ^-^
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
4906
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:30:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:I think I have to try out the heavy shotgun. Seems fun ^-^ There's a heavy shotgun?!
I guess Heavies with Shotguns will be even more common than it already is
> GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥
-Oscar Wilde
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
724
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:32:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:
I guess Heavies with Shotguns will be even more common
How often do you seem them?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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noob cavman
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
601
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:33:00 -
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Tried a heavy with ishi knives in fw last night with two complex kin cats I was a magnificent overweight raptor
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
4906
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:35:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I guess Heavies with Shotguns will be even more common How often do you seem them? You'd be surprised
> GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥
-Oscar Wilde
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
506
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:40:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I doubt I will cap it out, but bonuses to SP are still good. Agree, not a chance I'm going to cap, I think I'm sitting on about 3500 life time kills, so am extra thousand in two weeks is unlikely... Still, any bonus SP is appreciated.
Knowledge is power
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
135
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:43:00 -
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I see it as interesting work on stat gathering to help with the balance issues for 1.8. Also means they have given a way to gain mega SP so people can skill into the new content. With all the potential SP one could have gained in the 5x SP event and now this event I am starting to think respecs are out of the question. |
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
726
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:53:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Spademan wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I guess Heavies with Shotguns will be even more common How often do you seem them? You'd be surprised
Seriously? 'Cause I've only ever seen one in a match at any time. And those times are me.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
931
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:20:00 -
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Driftoward wrote: Hell, even with 10 heavy kills/match.....14 matches per day....
Ambush, from a tank? Does that count?
Hmm. rules dont seem to specify "must be infantry kills".
Which seems fair, since the heavies will themselves be gunning for tanks at the same time :D
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
931
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:23:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Tried a heavy with ishi knives in fw last night with two complex kin cats I was a magnificent overweight raptor
Hmm. still seems unberably slow.
*ponders*..
...
*envisions heavy suit, not just driving in LAV, but ejecting at speed*
KNIVES INCOMING, BIOTCHES!!!!!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
4907
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:23:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Driftoward wrote:Hell, even with 10 heavy kills/match.....14 matches per day.... Ambush, from a tank? Does that count? Hmm. rules dont seem to specify "must be infantry kills". Which seems fair, since the heavies will themselves be gunning for tanks at the same time :D What if the heavies you kill are in their own tank
> GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥
-Oscar Wilde
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Driftoward
Nos Nothi
72
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:26:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Driftoward wrote:Hell, even with 10 heavy kills/match.....14 matches per day.... Ambush, from a tank? Does that count? Hmm. rules dont seem to specify "must be infantry kills". Which seems fair, since the heavies will themselves be gunning for tanks at the same time :D What if the heavies you kill are in their own tank
ALL THE SP BONUSES!!!!
Driftward alt. Its a secret, shhhh....
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
726
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:23:00 -
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So, if you're a heavy, and forge down a tank with 3 heavies in it, what happens? Same question for a LAV with 3 heavies.
Also, if a Heavy forges a person, but no one is around to hear, do the screams make noise?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
931
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:09:00 -
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Spademan wrote: Also, if a Heavy forges a person, but no one is around to hear, do the screams make noise?
I dunno about screams, but I should make an alt with a sig line of, "My militia forge gun is powered by Proto tears"
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
135
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:46:00 -
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ok so with the scout event we had to be killed by 4 rifle types. now they say 4 rifles are getting nerfed to improve TTK. the heavies are required to use HMG and Forge gun for this event. Results could get them nerfed or buffed. Will they play to lose or to win in the short run or long run? |
One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
309
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:50:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:ok so with the scout event we had to be killed by 4 rifle types. now they say 4 rifles are getting nerfed to improve TTK. the heavies are required to use HMG and Forge gun for this event. Results could get them nerfed or buffed. Will they play to lose or to win in the short run or long run?
Good call. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Looking for the scout hangout? CCP banished it to the locker room
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1111
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:23:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:ok so with the scout event we had to be killed by 4 rifle types. now they say 4 rifles are getting nerfed to improve TTK. the heavies are required to use HMG and Forge gun for this event. Results could get them nerfed or buffed. Will they play to lose or to win in the short run or long run? They don't have to play to lose. The Forge can't compete with any semi-competent tanker that uses hardeners. best bet is 2 proto breach forge gunners to take out a militia tank before it can get its hardeners up. best used as a sniper rifle with more direct damage, splash damage higher than a sniper's direct damage, and better hit-detection at only the cost of half the range. The HMG gets outperformed by the combat rifle at all tiers. partly do to damage mods and partly from sharpshooter skill. but RR and CR are just far better at CQC against a single opponent. (they are less for holding points and more for being the middle of a pack that hunts together.) HMG is a lot like the Shotgun. It is great at low tier against low tier but it just doesn't scale up well.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
[email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
4910
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:32:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:They don't have to play to lose. The Forge can't compete with any semi-competent tanker that uses hardeners. best bet is 2 proto breach forge gunners to take out a militia tank before it can get its hardeners up. best used as a sniper rifle with more direct damage, splash damage higher than a sniper's direct damage, and better hit-detection at only the cost of half the range. The HMG gets outperformed by the combat rifle at all tiers. partly do to damage mods and partly from sharpshooter skill. but RR and CR are just far better at CQC against a single opponent. (they are less for holding points and more for being the middle of a pack that hunts together.) HMG is a lot like the Shotgun. It is great at low tier against low tier but it just doesn't scale up well.
Those Militia Tank nubs are just so easy to take out with a Blaster Soma or a Dau 2/A Assault Forge Gun XD
> GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥
-Oscar Wilde
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
932
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:32:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote: The HMG gets outperformed by the combat rifle at all tiers. partly do to damage mods and partly from sharpshooter skill. but RR and CR are just far better at CQC against a single opponent. (...) HMG is a lot like the Shotgun. It is great at low tier against low tier but it just doesn't scale up well.
Forge gun is kinda like that too, in the sense where it's similar, yet opposite to, a shotgun.
Shotgun is a fairly good up-close weapon. however, if you have to deal with anyone further than 5m away, and/or you dont have surprise on your side, you're probably going to die
Forge gun can be an excellent RANGED anti-infantry weapon, where range > 90m, AND you have the element of surprise on your side. However, if you have to deal with a decent enemy up closer than that, there's a good chance you're going to die.
HMG has crowd control on its side though. If you're up against 2 opponents close together, you can spray them both, and maybe still survive. Forge gun is opposite. if you're up against two decent opponents in their optimum range, you might take out one of them, but the other will probably finish you off. |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
510
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:20:00 -
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Worth keeping an eye out to see if an answer pops up for this one.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1824364#post1824364
Possible Dev confirmation on rounding of dampening numbers vs scanning. Hopefully they post a bit more, but even that would be a start.
Knowledge is power
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1268
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:21:00 -
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Profile vs Precision questions again, here but this time the Devs were watching. I don't think we ever tested/determined 1) if ties go to scanner or scanned or 2) how rounding is handled. Will be interesting to see what the Devs say. |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
933
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:39:00 -
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Driftoward wrote:Patrick57 wrote:What if the heavies you kill are in their own tank ALL THE SP BONUSES!!!!
btw, they have officially confirmed:
ALL THE SP bONUSes!!!!1 :D
(well, at least for "kill a heavy with forge gun") (I think they confirmed that you get vehicle credit on top of that!)
they also confirmed, that militia and BPO heavy suits count!!
Wooo, 1.5k suit spammage, here I come!! :D |
Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:28:00 -
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So fellow scouts i have 500k sp to spend out of the 5million sp i have saved up for 1.8. So what sould i get (all dropsuit upgrades are at lvl 5).
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2873
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:31:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:So fellow scouts i have 500k sp to spend out of the 5million sp i have saved up for 1.8. So what sould i get (all dropsuit upgrades are at lvl 5).
You could get another suit!
I love my ADV Min Assault!
Speed tank it and run ACR + Flaylock. It's like a tanky scout with no stealth.
Min Assault M1-Series
405 Shields (3x Complex Shields) 165 Armor
ADV ACR ADV Flaylock Basic Flux
ADV Kincat ADV Regulator
Compact Hive
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:54:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:So fellow scouts i have 500k sp to spend out of the 5million sp i have saved up for 1.8. So what sould i get (all dropsuit upgrades are at lvl 5). You could get another suit! I love my ADV Min Assault! Speed tank it and run ACR + Flaylock. It's like a tanky scout with no stealth. Min Assault M1-Series 405 Shields (3x Complex Shields) 165 Armor ADV ACR ADV Flaylock Basic Flux ADV Kincat ADV Regulator Compact Hive For got to mention that i'll not be specing into anything but scout suits. Still thank you for the suggestion but why the regulator. Not saying it is a weird choice but that is what i would use.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1832
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Posted - 2014.02.11 07:48:00 -
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hmmm Later for free suits
KRRROOOOOOM
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2163
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Posted - 2014.02.11 08:40:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:So fellow scouts i have 500k sp to spend out of the 5million sp i have saved up for 1.8. So what sould i get (all dropsuit upgrades are at lvl 5). I'd get your sidearm skills up in either SMG or Scrambler pistol (though SMG is apparently getting nerfed in 1.8). But that's just me because those are my weapons of choice
Alternatively, I too have been thinking that shield regs would make a good investment - in 1.8 I'll have 3 spare low slots on my gal scout and reducing my shield delay to 2 or 3 seconds would make an amazing hit and run suit.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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