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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:50:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:
Yeah you got point there but sense were Caldari how about shield regulators an rechargers I was thinking about that type of build for CQC.
I would say caldari ASSAULTS are for shield regulators and rechargers.
The Caldari SCOUT IMO has enough recharging speed and good shield recharge delay to AVOID using this and focus on either Combat Scout (AKA Flanking Luight assault XD) or E-War.
I see your idea and how it would work ,specially with the Cal Scout, but the total EHP value that could be achieved with only 1 Recharger and 1 regulator would be easily under 400. This means 4 Combat rifle bursts....This means, you will RARELY survive to use that fast Shield regen. Adn if you do tank it well enough, then you are not Profile dampened enough to avoid scanners not E-war pumped enough to detect everything like an A .Scanner.
Again this is My opinion. Than Otehr caldari suits might abuse better the regulators and rechargers,again, i CAN be wrong...And i havnt test the CAl Scout with regs so..... XD
See my thing is if your around cover you would pop out shot kill a target anther target would shot you back up in cover and either your shield is already recharging or starting. The fit would be
A Complex recharger, 2 precision, your choice, regulator, dampener.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1322
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:52:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:Spademan wrote:Also, if you're not below 200 you're not a real man  All suits are above 200 eHP
Clearly Spademan felt too EZMode inside his futuristic scout suit and instead prefers to run into battle with just his clone and weapon.
1.8 can't get here soon enough.
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
100
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:55:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Spademan wrote:voidfaction wrote:
Was just an example. I don't use shield or armor mods. I'm a skinny 249 eHP scout
Oh right. I need to learn to read the thing people respond to. Also, if you're not below 200 you're not a real man All suits are above 200 eHP You sure? I could've sworn the last time I glanced at my stealth fit that it was less Edit: Yup, you're right, it just scratches above 200
not sure about present but 1.8 stats for minmater scout will be 170 eHP without any SP in dropsuit armor/shield |
Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:55:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good.
Agreed, also to any scout saying who F*****g cares I want my scout OP thing about if they change it now then we will not have worry about being overly nerfed later after it is implemented. It really not that game changing if they took it away we already getting a low dampening.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
3141
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:56:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good.
Well it does kind of act like an active dampener. It'll help you in those situations where there's only one guy on the map running a proto scanner. You can just cloak up when they're near by or you get scanned. This way you dont have to run a damped suit for the entire match.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
12497
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:57:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Llast 326 wrote:ScoutsGǪ Want free shotguns? Incase your email did not work for the newsletter  TY for reminding me there is a problem with the newsletter system. (and the 100 free shotguns; cheers!) Yeah it's been glitchy for some in the past, so I always throw it in here. Also beta login bonus fatsuitsGǪ but we are to fit in here to mention those Omni soldiers may be interested though.
Yeah took a while to convince ccp to give something out other than quafe and black eagles. I am glad they listened and they ultimately suggested that suit on their end.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
122
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:57:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Spademan wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Spademan wrote:voidfaction wrote:
Was just an example. I don't use shield or armor mods. I'm a skinny 249 eHP scout
Oh right. I need to learn to read the thing people respond to. Also, if you're not below 200 you're not a real man All suits are above 200 eHP You sure? I could've sworn the last time I glanced at my stealth fit that it was less Edit: Yup, you're right, it just scratches above 200 not sure about present but 1.8 stats for minmater scout will be 170 eHP without any SP in dropsuit armor/shield
Your right but it is just the Minmatar.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
100
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:05:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good.
I was expecting cloak to cause profle to go up not down to balance it out with scanners. I actually thought at first it was and started fitting to account for +25% dampening instead of -25% dampening
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
593
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:06:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Spademan wrote:Also, if you're not below 200 you're not a real man All suits are above 200 eHP Clearly Spademan felt too EZMode inside his futuristic scout suit and instead prefers to run into battle with just his clone and weapon.
Heh, if I could I would
Cuts down costs 
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:10:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good. I was expecting cloak to cause profle to go up not down to balance it out with scanners. I actually thought at first it was and started fitting to account for +25% dampening instead of -25% dampening
I think that the cloak is intended to be the "active" counter to the Active Scanner. Where precision enhancement and dampeners are intended to work against each other.
This is not the way I originally thought it was going to be, but the more i think about it the more it seems that way.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Man of Spade
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:13:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:voidfaction wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good. I was expecting cloak to cause profle to go up not down to balance it out with scanners. I actually thought at first it was and started fitting to account for +25% dampening instead of -25% dampening I think that the cloak is intended to be the "active" counter to the Active Scanner. Where precision enhancement and dampeners are intended to work against each other. This is not the way I originally thought it was going to be, but the more i think about it the more it seems that way.
I always figured they'd seperate visual invisibility from electronic invisibility.
Was kind of hoping for an area profile reduction grenade/equipment too.
Totally not Spademan.
That guy is a real jackass.
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
100
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:19:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:voidfaction wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good. I was expecting cloak to cause profle to go up not down to balance it out with scanners. I actually thought at first it was and started fitting to account for +25% dampening instead of -25% dampening I think that the cloak is intended to be the "active" counter to the Active Scanner. Where precision enhancement and dampeners are intended to work against each other. This is not the way I originally thought it was going to be, but the more i think about it the more it seems that way.
from the gallente point of view it just looks very wrong to get another 25% lower profile dampening when cloaked. From the other 3 it is not so bad but proto focused scanner is nerfed to 20 making it still look wrong. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:25:00 -
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@ Spade
Yeah that is kinda what I was hoping for too, more options more equipment/gear. Expanding the levels a bit more.
@ void
I agree it seems over the top on some levels. It looks almost like the Gal bonus has become redundant. Almost, possibly, maybe.
KRRROOOOOOM
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:32:00 -
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I'm still going to plan my fits for 25% profile dampening reduction to effectiveness and 25% profile dampening reduction just because the way CCP words things some times. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:33:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:I'm still going to plan my fits for 25% profile dampening reduction to effectiveness and 25% profile dampening reduction just because the way CCP words things some times.
Good plan
KRRROOOOOOM
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
101
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:44:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:voidfaction wrote:I'm still going to plan my fits for 25% profile dampening reduction to effectiveness and 25% profile dampening reduction just because the way CCP words things some times. Good plan
It's easy to plan that with gallente scout, lol
1x enhanced profile dampener beats ALL proto scanners unless used by a gallente logi.
cloaked even the gal logi with proto scanner is beat.
to easy |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
210
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:03:00 -
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I just had a really cool idea for proto scout camoGǪyou know how all the other classes (like assaults and logistics) get a cool digital camouflage that is for visuals only? Well what if you gave that to the scout, but instead of alternating colors or some **** like that, have the alternating color be invisible, so that when the scout is moving, it breaks up its appearance and would look ghost like, and harder to track.
tell me what y'all think
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:19:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I just had a really cool idea for proto scout camoGǪyou know how all the other classes (like assaults and logistics) get a cool digital camouflage that is for visuals only? Well what if you gave that to the scout, but instead of alternating colors or some **** like that, have the alternating color be invisible, so that when the scout is moving, it breaks up its appearance and would look ghost like, and harder to track.
tell me what y'all think
but I really really like my Valor scout camo. bright green and impossible to hide with. it will probably even be easy to see while cloaked. everyone would be seeing green tracers running past them, lol |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
2088
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:22:00 -
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I can't be the only one.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4162
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:23:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:I'm guessing the cloak's dampening is actually intended for non-scouts. Fitting a cloak already severely gimps their fits and expecting them to fit a bunch of damps (if the cloak didn't provide dampening) on top of it is probably a bit overkill. CCP wants the cloak to be difficult to fit on non-scouts, not pointless.
However, yes, the cloak's dampening on top of a scout's low profile might be too good. Well it does kind of act like an active dampener. It'll help you in those situations where there's only one guy on the map running a proto scanner. You can just cloak up when they're near by or you get scanned. This way you dont have to run a damped suit for the entire match.
Or for when you're running through one of the cities to ninja hack an objective
Scouts will have one of the biggest roles in PC.
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4162
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:23:00 -
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That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh. 
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1543
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:24:00 -
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You are not alone
KRRROOOOOOM
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1545
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:26:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh.
You get knifings of affection Patrick.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:32:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh. You get knifings of affection Patrick.
But you won't see me 
Until I realize that the only way to fit a Cloak is to use a Toxin AR and two other Standard Equipment
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
2200
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:45:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh. You get knifings of affection Patrick.
Our little pinpricks of love
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4168
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:50:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh. You get knifings of affection Patrick. Our little pinpricks of love
:( I wish you guys would love me less.
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:That one made me feel bad, but it also made me laugh. You get knifings of affection Patrick. Our little pinpricks of love :( I wish you guys would love me less.
It's a school day's kind of love.
I'm Sekai.
You're Makato.
You know how this ends.... 
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4168
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:It's a school day's kind of love. I'm Sekai. You're Makato. You know how this ends....
Not really  Now I'm scared.
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6085
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:It's a school day's kind of love. I'm Sekai. You're Makato. You know how this ends....
Dat **** was nice till she gutted him....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3931
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:56:00 -
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My Whole Scout plans of the FUTURE ARE A LIE!
the caldari scout does not GET ANY PROFILE DAMP PER LEVEL D:
Precision and Radar range! thats what they get!
I read wrong , yet again...
Nor they have enough Low slots to effectively Profile Damp and Increase Scan Range!
WTH...im sweating...will i have to use a gallente suit?
OMG WHY/.....why...
TT-TT
KC ...is depressed...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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