Have you seen what you can get with a brick tanked Ishukone cloaked gallente scout?
If your worried about a logi using cloak then you have not.

Scouts are going to be very, very powerful next build.
Not going to judge whether they're overly so until it happens, though.

Will not matter when your getting shot in the back by my pro rail rifle cause I'll know were you are.

Why don't you just squad up with me for the event today?

I'll be on in like 10 minutes. Just got back from my Chem class.

Dear god. 4 hours of chemistry today.

3 hour lab, 1 hour lecture

I need to unwind

841 eHP gallente scout with 19 profile when not cloaked and your going to see me? guess your going to be a 4x precision caldari scout. The one being seen is the logi using a cloak.

From what I'm seeing, not likely, while the scout is indeed being improved it's still outshined by the other classes.

We may be getting some much needed improvements but we remain the weakest class.

TBH I dislike how noobs will be unable to use what's probably going to be a defining feature of a class, although it does provide some barrier to it becoming FotM immediately.

Weakest class?
Certainly not.

You might be judging from the minja, but the other scouts are quite possibly almost as good at assaulting as the assaults. Except with cloaks, high movement speed, stealth, etc. They may not outshine the other classes, but they are certainly not going to be the weakest class.

841 eHP gallente scout with 19 profile when not cloaked and your going to see me? guess your going to be a 4x precision caldari scout. The one being seen is the logi using a cloak.

So what's your HP when you have equipped, a basic cloak and a proto combat rifle?
'cause that's what the logi i specced out has got.

And a reminder that when the logi is cloaked, you wont be seeing him on your passive either, 'cause he has 37.25dB profile, if I'm remembering the numbers right.

(50dB base, x .9 damp5, x .75 cloak bonus)

sure you could fit precision mods... and then bye-bye to even more of your HP.

This is with a Ishukone Cloak Field Duvolle Assault Rifle at 841 eHP

with precision and 768 eHP
gk.0
ishukone cloak
duvolle assault rifle
1x complex shield
1x complex precision
3x complex armor plates
1x enhanced profile

This is with a Ishukone Cloak Field Duvolle Assault Rifle at 841 eHP

with precision and 768 eHP
gk.0
ishukone cloak
duvolle assault rifle
1x complex shield
1x complex precision
3x complex armor plates
1x enhanced profile
remote explosive
smg

768 eHP
19 profile uncloaked
33 precision
37m range

Im gonna fit my Caldari scout with:

2 Cx shield ext
2 Precision enhancers
1 cx prof Dampener
1 cx Range amplifier

Why the comp prof damp?
well, those Gal logi A.Scanners....

huh.

I was confused for a minute.. and then I remembered we're actually gettingmore slots.

That's..... pretty nice, actually

but logis still need to be cloak-nerfed harder.

huh.

I was confused for a minute.. and then I remembered we're actually gettingmore slots.

That's..... pretty nice, actually

but logis still need to be cloak-nerfed harder.

Why would you even put those plates on there?

I just don't understand why you'd get rid of speed on a scout, one of it's main draws (or at least was for me)

Why? Ferroscales, sure, but normal?

Was just an example. I don't use shield or armor mods. I'm a skinny 249 eHP scout

Same for me except I might put two complex damage mods. reason is the faster you kill the more likely you'll survive in my option.
Right now on my Gal scout I have complex damp, range, precision, kin cat, and cardiac. I never use health mods anymore.

Oh right.
I need to learn to read the thing people respond to.

Also, if you're not below 200 you're not a real man

If anything I would say that the 25% reduction in profile while cloaked is a tad OP. I like the idea of having that bonus but perhaps scaled back and then increases based on the tier of cloak. 10% on standard, 15-18% on adv and 20-25% on complex.

That would keep that bonus essentially to scouts only and provide an incentive to use the higher tier gear on top of the increased cloak times.

Though again, I think the extra bonus on top of what scouts already have in terms of profile.....could be OP. Actually it probably is.

A proto caldari scout (I'm assuming it has a role of anti-scout scout) can pick up other scouts passively. Add 1 complex precision module to cancel out 1 enhanced dampener. 2 precision to pick up scouts running between 1 complex dampener to 1 complex + 1 enhanced. (sorry hard to conceptualize in text)

By using a cloak though, a scout can use 1 complex dampener and have the equivalent of two. With a profile of 18dB They would then only be scanned by a Cal scout running 3 precision enhancers (out of 4 highs) or a Gal Logi with a duvolled focused scanner.

Not only are you cloaked but you cant get scanned either....

WOW . i was about to say the same.
That i might cahnge them for damage mods BUT:
The reason for Shields vs Dam mods is....
My Pistol (main weapon ATM) kills fast enough as it is.Its low Clip size however wont let me kill more than 1 or 2 enemies before having to reload or change to my ''sidearm'' .

I'll elaborate:
In the current build,my best scout is this

M/1 series scout (i never got the gallente, UPRISING speed tanker : / )
GÖª2 Precision enhancers (ADV)
GÖª1 Complex Profile Dampener
GÖª1 Compex range amplifier
GÖª Remote ex
GÖª TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol
GÖª Whatever i can fit as a sidearm

Now this is my best suit and runs 120 shields and 84 armor.Yes, this si the fitting that has gotten my K-D ratio over 3 XD

Most people are like, Wut man, u nuts?
I do very well with this fit because i can sneak behind enemies almost all the time without having to even let them know im near (A.Scanners).I can sneak behind , score a kill and leave.

The difference with no Dam mods and 2 dam mods on a pistol is around 2 bullets, that even if it might make a lot of difference in 1 on 1 straight foward combat it doesnt while sneaking behind one enemy at the time.
Even with the BASIC SCR pistol with no proficiency , anything but a heavy will die before he turns around.

So why do i prefer having 140 HP more than having more damage?

Well with this fitting , EVERY SINGLE TIME I GET KILLED, is just: LUCK

thats it. I never losse an battle with this suit because im always attacking from behind. I can always run faster than anything but another scout and i am pretty profile dampened, so the only way i can get killed is if the enemy gets lucky and sees me.
If they respawn behind me, if they see me running toward an objective,etc...
So this extra HP is to take me alive to where i want to get into. After im there, damage is not a problem since every kill is a ''back stab''......

Overall:
I always think: lucky dude caught me running from A to B. Its luck because he happened to look in that direction in the exact time i decided to sprint.
HAVING 204 HP, 2 Combat rifle bursts drop me XD

I NEVER THINK: ''Gosh, i died and the enemy survived with 20 HP, Maybe if i had dam mods...''
This happens to assaults, not to scouts. a Scout that dedicates to sneak attacks must always be able to kill his prey before he turns around.

THEN AGAIN, it has more to do with game style than any other thing and i support EVERYTHING that is not an HP Tanked Scout.

All suits are above 200 eHP

Has anyone else started a conversation about how the profile reduction while cloaked is perhaps too OP?

I think it needs to be addressed.


There are some issues here that we might overlook if we're not careful. I love that my scout isn't scanned, but at the same time....that could be bad for gameplay. I like the current stats on scanners and the profiles of scouts in general. But adding an extra bonus to profile reduction doesn't seem quite right....

Maybe I'm jumping the gun on this, I don't know.

Yeah you got point there but sense were Caldari how about shield regulators an rechargers I was thinking about that type of build for CQC.

You sure?
I could've sworn the last time I glanced at my stealth fit that it was less