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Quil Evrything wrote:

Driftward wrote:

So to use a scout effectively....we no longer have the option of what equipment to roll with. We're are automatically stuck with a cloak. So much for flanking to unusual positions to drop an uplink or you know using those lovely remotes or being a forward position scanning agent.

??

why do you say that?

Unless there specifically is a gallente logi on the field... a gallente scout will still be more or less as stealthy as they were before, I think?

Certainly as compared to assaults, at any rate.

These days, seems like the majority of scanning I run across, is actually from vehicles. So as long as you're below that, you're going to be in about the same place you are already, even if you dont use cloak.

It remains to be seen just how desirable a cloak will be, andd in which roles.
Given that there will be a cooldown for it, its certainly not going to be some ultimate ninja winbutton for assassinating everything in site. Rather, it sounds like it's going to have to be used with specific tactical goals in mind.

My main concern is whether scouts are going to be able to use a cloak, AND carry an uplink, at the same time.

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Llast 326 An Arkhos 1167	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:45:00 - [6451] - Quote Spademan wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Scout Registry wrote: @ Marauder Fixed. Please tell me you didn't get yourself banned. Actually ... let's not talk about it :-) @ Spademan Thanks for the feedback. @ Appia You suggested a "concerned Scout" feedback thread. Is there one up yet? Marauder did get banned. I never found out why, but we NEED to know. Yeah, and I really need to know whether Bojo is pronounced with a soft J or not, but I'm not getting that info either. LMAO KRRROOOOOOM
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:47:00 - [6452] - Quote Devs never look at this thread so ill tell you why I got banned. Basically one of the Devs was kinda butthurt that someone said this game has garbage matchmaking and that saying stuff like that doesn't help. I told that dev that the reason players ** talk their game is because their game deserves no better than . Then I got banned lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 545	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:48:00 - [6453] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: LMAO Seriously bro, everytime I see the name a small part of me eats itself out of frustation of not knowing. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1630	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:51:00 - [6454] - Quote @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1167	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:52:00 - [6455] - Quote Once the M post is read Give it a like to confirm and then Marad"er can edit it to rainbows and puppies to be safe KRRROOOOOOM
Scout Registry 382	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:54:00 - [6456] - Quote @ M It puts the lotion on its skin. @ Ghost My Wrath Beam is still dialed in on Quil.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1167	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:55:00 - [6457] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. It has a click in itGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª maybe Bo click jo KRRROOOOOOM
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1630	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:57:00 - [6458] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. It has a click in itGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇªGÇª maybe Bo click jo I think there might be a silent "d" in there. Like django. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 68	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:57:00 - [6459] - Quote You want me to erase/ edit that post? But CCP never checks this thread lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1630	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:58:00 - [6460] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: @ Ghost My Wrath Beam is still dialed in on Quil. OH GOD MY SIDES Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1631	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:59:00 - [6461] - Quote Marad''er wrote: You want me to erase/ edit that post? But CCP never checks this thread lol Just to be safe. IWS comes in here every now and then. Even though I think Appia's post about why she got banned is still here. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1167	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:59:00 - [6462] - Quote Marad''er wrote: You want me to erase/ edit that post? But CCP never checks this thread lol Just my suggestion one stealth posting They lookGÇª KRRROOOOOOM
mollerz Minja Scouts 1645	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:16:00 - [6463] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. I thought it was pronounced blow... oh nevermind. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Driftward Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 551	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:00:00 - [6464] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Driftward wrote: So to use a scout effectively....we no longer have the option of what equipment to roll with. We're are automatically stuck with a cloak. So much for flanking to unusual positions to drop an uplink or you know using those lovely remotes or being a forward position scanning agent. ?? why do you say that? Unless there specifically is a gallente logi on the field... a gallente scout will still be more or less as stealthy as they were before, I think? Certainly as compared to assaults, at any rate. These days, seems like the majority of scanning I run across, is actually from vehicles. So as long as you're below that, you're going to be in about the same place you are already, even if you dont use cloak. It remains to be seen just how desirable a cloak will be, andd in which roles. Given that there will be a cooldown for it, its certainly not going to be some ultimate ninja winbutton for assassinating everything in site. Rather, it sounds like it's going to have to be used with specific tactical goals in mind. My main concern is whether scouts are going to be able to use a cloak, AND carry an uplink, at the same time. Ummm....yah. That is clearly my concern too. You know because I said it. Since the cloak seems to be an equipment slot and no scouts have more than 1 equipment slot, unless they decide to change that for amarr and caldari scouts.....and I find that unlikely. By them focusing all scouts on having a fitting bonus to cloak devices and removed all profile reductions.....I feel like they prenerfed scouts so that cloaked scouts will be seen on the mini-map but difficult to see by eye. Also, by only giving the cloaking device fitting bonus they made it much more difficult for scouts to provide support functions on the team. You don't have the low profile to flank effectively and still drop uplinks or REs or what have you. Rather you are stuck with being assassin role regardless. I think that role might be very useful, and fun, but....I'd take diversity over the one role any day. As to your other points....well the gallente scout will be the only one still able to do anything other than cloaking, but it still suffers a nerf to scan range compared to 1.7. Also, there are far more users of active scanners than "mostly vehicles". I see more people pull out a scanner and do the scan spin (meanwhile I kill them while they're stuck holding a scanner) than I see vehicles....
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2592	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:03:00 - [6465] - Quote mollerz wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. I thought it was pronounced blow... oh nevermind. . You were so close!!! LOL or were you? This is funny. It's like I am the owl and you are all the naked kid in the forest with a tootsie roll pop. Wait, how did this naked child get in the forest? Did he come from the forest? And if he did, where did he get the tootsie roll pop? This is mischevious to say the least. Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
Driftward Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 552	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:09:00 - [6466] - Quote Oh and PSA Don't forget to account for a new skill for cloaking devices in your saved SP. 2.2 mill SP for racial scout and minimum of 600 k SP for cloaks. Maybe up 1.1 mill SP depending on what multiplier they drop on it. Ouch.
Scout Registry 384	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:11:00 - [6467] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: It's like I am the owl. Who?
pseudosnipre 484	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:15:00 - [6468] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: mollerz wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. I thought it was pronounced blow... oh nevermind. . You were so close!!! LOL or were you? This is funny. It's like I am the owl and you are all the naked kid in the forest with a tootsie roll pop. Wait, how did this naked child get in the forest? Did he come from the forest? And if he did, where did he get the tootsie roll pop? This is mischevious to say the least. Confirmed: all my suspicions Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 155	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:24:00 - [6469] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: It's like I am the owl. Who? I believe he is referring to this @Bojo How many licks will it take to resolve this issue? I'm sure many of us are open to negotiation.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3798	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:24:00 - [6470] - Quote mollerz wrote: BTW- I am putting a moratorium on any spending of SP given the recent information coming out and the unlikelihood of a respec. Me too I think it's "Beau-jough" QW1hcnIgTG9naSBGVFc=

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1639	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:24:00 - [6471] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: It's like I am the owl. Who? Looks like someone has Pun Proficiency Level 5. Now we get to see if he put any SP into rapid reload. Also, this flew RIGHT over Shutter Fly's head. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 11	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:25:00 - [6472] - Quote I dont know if I should be upset that my alt icdumppl made it on the registry and my main didnt or proud that i wrecked someone enough while most likely running around with duel scrambler pistols that they remembered me
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2595	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:25:00 - [6473] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: mollerz wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: @ Marauder I am content. Erase the post so that we don't have to fear shotty's wrath. @Llast and Bojo No really, how is his name pronounced? Boho? Boo-jo? Bjo-ho? Devin? I still don't know how to pronounce it. We must learn. I thought it was pronounced blow... oh nevermind. . You were so close!!! LOL or were you? This is funny. It's like I am the owl and you are all the naked kid in the forest with a tootsie roll pop. Wait, how did this naked child get in the forest? Did he come from the forest? And if he did, where did he get the tootsie roll pop? This is mischevious to say the least. Confirmed: all my suspicions ..and I thought it was bojo with a soft "d". The Fifth Forum Shrine of Bojo The Mighty Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1644	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:29:00 - [6474] - Quote icdedppul wrote: I dont know if I should be upset that my alt icdumppl made it on the registry and my main didnt or proud that i wrecked someone enough while most likely running around with duel scrambler pistols that they remembered me What's your main? Also: I hate to be that guy, but there is no punctuation in that post. At all. I had to read it three times until I finally understood what you said. EDIT: F'n Muphry's Law.... Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
icdumppl PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:40:00 - [6475] - Quote punctuation is for pansies just need more carriage returns not upset that icdedppul isn't on the list since I never responded to the in game mail about it just surprised dum peeps got mentioned at all since i never responded to the in game mail
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2596	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:47:00 - [6476] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Scout Registry wrote: @ Marauder Fixed. Please tell me you didn't get yourself banned. Actually ... let's not talk about it :-) @ Spademan Thanks for the feedback. @ Appia You suggested a "concerned Scout" feedback thread. Is there one up yet? Marauder did get banned. I never found out why, but we NEED to know. I know the post that got him banned Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1649	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:49:00 - [6477] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Scout Registry wrote: @ Marauder Fixed. Please tell me you didn't get yourself banned. Actually ... let's not talk about it :-) @ Spademan Thanks for the feedback. @ Appia You suggested a "concerned Scout" feedback thread. Is there one up yet? Marauder did get banned. I never found out why, but we NEED to know. I know the post that got him banned LINK IT. LINK IT NOW. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3802	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:49:00 - [6478] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I know the post that got him banned :o listens intently (reads intently?) QW1hcnIgTG9naSBGVFc=
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 155	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:54:00 - [6479] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: It's like I am the owl. Who? Looks like someone has Pun Proficiency Level 5. Now we get to see if he put any SP into rapid reload. Also, this flew RIGHT over Shutter Fly's head. Oh... I wish I could say this doesn't happen often
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2596	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:54:00 - [6480] - Quote I won't directly give it to you but here, take a look at Marauder's final post. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=search&postedby=DJINN+Marauder&forumID=977 It's the top of the search list. I can not confirm that that post is the one but it sure seems like it. Marauder said he was surprised to get banned for the post, so the first one seems to fit the puzzle, as it is also the last post. Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.



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