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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:18:00 -
[5551] - Quote
Oh I def think tanks have a pretty easy time of killing infantry. But I don't think av needs a buff. Agree on kroms ideas. But perhaps it's too complex?
Quill, why are all the "pro" tankers up in arms that tanks are the new ez mode then? That any new guy can use them with little sp and still do just as well?
The extra mod slot really only allows you a little extra room to make a mistake.
It's similar to running basic vs adv gear. The gap is small. I usually do just as well running basic as I do running adv gear.
I fear for proto tanks......
Appia....crazy base speeds are that high on logis
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
581
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:27:00 -
[5552] - Quote
IgniteableAura wrote:
Quill, why are all the "pro" tankers up in arms that tanks are the new ez mode then? That any new guy can use them with little sp and still do just as well?
The extra mod slot really only allows you a little extra room to make a mistake.
Bah.. they're just all ***hurt they arent as 'leet as they used to be.
I tell you though, I ran into a REALLY good tanker today.
I had a rail gun , with an active damage mod... I landed must have been 7 direct hits on him.. and he survived.
barely :D
However, the same could not be said for me.
tried it a couple times.
So, in summary...my tank would have blown away any generic soma or sica, I'm guessing. But he was a pro gunlogi driver
(or madrugar, I forget. same diff)
ANd for the record: no it makes a HUGe diff.
consider, without it, you can only pick TWO, of
shield extender
shield ..erm.. regen thingie
shield hardener.
Now consider what a tank is like with all THREE.
It's like you've doubled the HP of your tank, at least for 20 seconds.
Almost tripled.
In my future tank/tank battles, if I'm using gunlogi again, I think I'll go for my old triple-buff way, not the suggested "pour on damage mods" way.
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Scout Registry
134
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:02:00 -
[5553] - Quote
@ Iggy
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1636212#post1636212
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1638609#post1638609
With respect, I disagree. If things must remain as is, then (1) tank cost should be raised and (2) SP refunded for AV-oriented skills. If (1) and (2) are non-options, then AV should be restored to an effective state.
As to why, I agree with Llast's statement:
I do not think that any one aspect of the game should be "only X should be able to killGǪX, please ignore that X can also kill ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWYand Z as well"
@ Krom
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1636730#post1636730
Clever Solution :-) +1 |
Scout Registry
134
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:07:00 -
[5554] - Quote
Another non-Scout explains how to fix Scouts:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1638615#post1638615
Translation:
When Scouts get Dev Hugs, it should benefit me more than them. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2364
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Posted - 2013.12.21 17:41:00 -
[5555] - Quote
I don't get people.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
213
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Posted - 2013.12.21 18:59:00 -
[5556] - Quote
I see some ppl have problems staying with positive wallet, so here some scout tips from Keeriam  :
Dust payout mechanics seems including dmg efficiency with weapon you using in battle, by that i mean it's headshot multiplier & overkill dmg. Headshot overkills more preferable, regular overkill like RE, nade kill, body shots etc not affecting that much.
1 - Destroying dropsuit will give you something about 20% of it's fitting cost (tasty proto FGners  ).
2 - When you kill someone, make sure you terminated clone (killing is not enough). There seems to be extra payout for destroying clone (even if not you killed him).
3 - Kill assists give's you extra payout as well. So help to kill literaly EVERYTHING (tho there is no more kill assists in 1.7 for vehicles with light weapons). But if you hit driver or passanger on LAV or DS you will get kill assist.
4 - Destroy every equipment you see & can reach.
So, target more expensive suits, overkill it with headshot (as much as possible), kill assists (especialy for instalations), clone termination.
Even if you will be the last on leaderboard endmatch screen (by kills & WPs), your payout can be alot more than 1-st place badass dude (tested, comfirmed in squad play, even with HAV drivers). Like this (old foto, i'll make new one if someone need proof with more stats) - that was ambush mode, i sniped (headshoted) 8 proto FGners, only 8 kills...
-í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦-ï-+ -+-+-¦-¦-é -¦-ï-é-î -é-+-+-î-¦-+ -+-+-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦. -í-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦, -ü-ç-¦-ü-é-+-+-¦...
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Scout Registry
134
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Posted - 2013.12.21 19:27:00 -
[5557] - Quote
Double your JJ's BOOM with Minmatar Loyalty Points!
* Suit A - Logi w/Republic REs + Republic F/45 REs
* Suit B - Logi w/REs + F/45 REs
1) Spawn in Suit A near Supply Depot.
2) Call in LAV. Place 6 Republic REs.
3) Switch to Suit B. Place 6 Regular REs.
4) Smite Tank. It works! (tested and confirmed)
* Don't forget to plan your route and be patient!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
925
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:14:00 -
[5558] - Quote
HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Scout Registry
136
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:32:00 -
[5559] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way.
Please explain "no need to detonate" ...
Does the Flux cause REs to detonate?
I was under the impression that the Flux would destroy the REs (rather than setting them off).
Please advise ... |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2377
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:46:00 -
[5560] - Quote
I do believe fluxes don't "disarm" REs but actually causes them to explode. This trick is actually what got me kicked from FW last week. :D
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
926
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:53:00 -
[5561] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way. Please explain "no need to detonate" ... Does the Flux cause REs to detonate? I was under the impression that the Flux would destroy the REs (rather than setting them off). Please advise ...
A flux will detonate the RE.
This means you can have another weapon in hand and ready to deal more damage if needed. (I like to finish with a flay lock when appropriateGǪ just wish i could see their faces on the kill screen)
Now that EQ destruction does not cause kick, FF benefits expedience in killing HAVs.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2379
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:00:00 -
[5562] - Quote
I actually tried the RE+Flux combo after watching a video of a guy in battlefield throw 3 slams on a tank and using a contact grenade to detonate them/injure the tank. Pretty fun wombo combo.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
147
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:13:00 -
[5563] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way.
Wait ... what? Oh, that's awesome...
I've been working on my tank-killing (and having a lot of fun with it) the past couple days, but THIS ... oh, yes.
I like this. |
Cass Caul
591
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:42:00 -
[5564] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way. Please explain "no need to detonate" ... Does the Flux cause REs to detonate? I was under the impression that the Flux would destroy the REs (rather than setting them off). Please advise ...
1.5/1.6 changed it. Flux used to just deactivate/destroy them. Now they set them off. when this change was made it took me like 3/4 matches to catch on.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Scout Registry
136
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:55:00 -
[5565] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:
1.5/1.6 changed it. Flux used to just deactivate/destroy them. Now they set them off. when this change was made it took me like 3/4 matches to catch on.
Just tested it in a Pub ...
Placed 3 REs on a hostile tank (unmanned).
Tossed Allotek Flux directly into pile of ordnance.
Negative effect. Don't think I missed.
Respawned.
Placed 3 REs on the ground.
Fluxed pile of REs. Repeated twice.
Negative effect. Certainly didn't miss.
This must only work in Fac War. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
928
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:00:00 -
[5566] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Cass Caul wrote:
1.5/1.6 changed it. Flux used to just deactivate/destroy them. Now they set them off. when this change was made it took me like 3/4 matches to catch on.
Just tested it in a Pub ... Placed 3 REs on a hostile tank (unmanned). Tossed Allotek Flux directly into pile of ordnance. Negative effect. Don't think I missed. Respawned. Placed 3 REs on the ground. Fluxed pile of REs. Repeated twice. Negative effect. Certainly didn't miss. This must only work in Fac War.
Requires FF
FW, and PC only
KRRROOOOOOM
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T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES
105
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:06:00 -
[5567] - Quote
12-21-13
T8R Raid: Scout gk.0
Kills: 13,954
Ratio: 0.90
Pistols are my home.
Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
928
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:12:00 -
[5568] - Quote
T8R Raid wrote:12-21-13
T8R Raid: Scout gk.0
Kills: 13,954
Ratio: 0.90
Pistols are my home.
Registry is closed
But good to see a scout none the less 
Run against a few Wolves in the past, good battles, good opponents o7
KRRROOOOOOM
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
854
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:29:00 -
[5569] - Quote
@ another scout suggested buff thread: *facepalm*
When will it end with everyone telling us what sort of buffs we need to make ourselves viable? I feel like just going in and posting a "don't listen to OP, CCP" everytime I see a thread like this. 
...
Thanks for the tips on the A/V ideas, guys - never thought of using the minmitar faction REs at the same time as regular REs!!
And welcome, T8R, to the sub-basement of deviousness. Have a drink, on me bro.  |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
581
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:52:00 -
[5570] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way.
Sounds like fun :)
The one annoying thing, is actually having to HIT the tank, with the flux, though.
The ones I usually attempt to take down, move around a LOT.
Just placing 3 REs on target is pretty durn challenging.
Actually hitting it with flux, without the auto-homing of the AV grenades, sounds challenging, to say the least.
Side comment:
Do you get a penalty if you blow up your own REs with weapon fire if, for example, you attempted to place on a tank, but miss?
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
3504
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:59:00 -
[5571] - Quote
Gg to jolly, caveman, and I think it was kitty.
You guys with your sneaky RE's got me once on my heavy alt :(
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 3 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Scout Registry
141
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:02:00 -
[5572] - Quote
Quil Evrything wrote:
Do you get a penalty if you blow up your own REs with weapon fire if, for example, you attempted to place on a tank, but miss?
FF rules have recently changed. I think you're penalty free now.
See: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130180
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
932
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:16:00 -
[5573] - Quote
Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote:HAV kills in FW are now reasonably easier with just RE and a FluxGǪ Toss 3 REs on and then Flux, it drops shields (or makes a huge dent to Shield tanks) and the REs finish the job with no need to detonate.
Have had luck taking down heavily armoured tanks this way. Sounds like fun :) The one annoying thing, is actually having to HIT the tank, with the flux, though. The ones I usually attempt to take down, move around a LOT. Just placing 3 REs on target is pretty durn challenging. Actually hitting it with flux, without the auto-homing of the AV grenades, sounds challenging, to say the least. Side comment: Do you get a penalty if you blow up your own REs with weapon fire if, for example, you attempted to place on a tank, but miss?
I don't find hitting with the flux to be to challenging, as long as they are bolting directly away from meGǪ at that point I just wait them out and stalk them down. The REs are not going anywhere (unless they recall), and many HAV pilots don't actually run that far unless they are already damaged.
Cooking and tossing takes a bit of practice, Flux radius is actually pretty large so it's easier than regular Nades.
You can practice by taking out equipment with timed tosses rather than drop and forget.
And as Shotty mentioned, the rules have changed, no penalty for EQ destruction.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
932
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:30:00 -
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Also this tactic only works if you can get a ******* match to ****** load, and can remain connected to the ******** **** *** *U*** matchGǪ
That is all
KRRROOOOOOM
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T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES
107
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:06:00 -
[5575] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:[quote=T8R Raid] Registry is closed But good to see a scout none the less Run against a few Wolves in the past, good battles, good opponents o7
always thought of myself as a dropship pilot not scout whenever i saw registry on forums. always used a scout suit on the ground but registry isnt important, war is my home and im territorial awoooooo
Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
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J0LLY R0G3R
Tickle My Null-Sac
257
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:12:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Gg to jolly, caveman, and I think it was kitty.
You guys with your sneaky RE's got me once on my heavy alt :(
Indeed, was a fun game even though we got paddled lol. I kept having fluxes chase me everywhere I retreated to.
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
423
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:26:00 -
[5577] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Also this tactic only works if you can get a ******* match to ****** load, and can remain connected to the ******** **** *** *U*** matchGǪ
That is all
Please tell us how you really feel.
PHI Recruitment
or PHIsh Tank in game
Twitch
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
934
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:55:00 -
[5578] - Quote
IgniteableAura wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Also this tactic only works if you can get a ******* match to ****** load, and can remain connected to the ******** **** *** *U*** matchGǪ
That is all Please tell us how you really feel.
Flashbacks to ChromoGǪ manGǪ flashbacks to Chromo
KRRROOOOOOM
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
6588
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:25:00 -
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So... I just discovered the speed of the minmatar scout.
I'm addicted.
Also kincats.
Yeah.
Much speed.
Very happy.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
303
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Posted - 2013.12.22 23:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So... I just discovered the speed of the minmatar scout.
I'm addicted.
Also kincats.
Yeah.
Much speed.
Very happy.
Scram pistol, knives and remotes.
Welcome to the club
Tickle my null-sack weapons guy.
Teabagging the universe one merc at a time
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