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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
996
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:37:00 -
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After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong |
dzizur
Nos Nothi
991
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:39:00 -
[46082] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong
Run forest, RUN!
Seriously though, the whole community isn't that sure about AM Scout role.
I am not even sure of the scout role as a whole :P |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
15
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:44:00 -
[46083] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong
I got nothing. Skilled back into to it to double check. Bad suit still bad. Haven't tried armor tanking it yet; might be worth a shot. Also, Rattati reported good results running with a laser rifle. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:46:00 -
[46084] - Quote
I now have Cal scout.
I like the Cal scout.
It actually hits and runs better than the minmatar scout. It has utterly fantastic shield regen.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Matticus Monk
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:48:00 -
[46085] - Quote
dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong Run forest, RUN! Seriously though, the whole community isn't that sure about AM Scout role. I am not even sure of the scout role as a whole :P Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
^^ Sad to say that this is the truth. Sorry man! (Hope you didn't invest too heavily....)
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:50:00 -
[46086] - Quote
dzizur wrote:
Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
see, when i saw those bonuses I jumped at it figuring, "Run forever and see people!"
what happened was, "Run from people you see forever!" |
Matticus Monk
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:51:00 -
[46087] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong I got nothing. Skilled back into to it to double check. Bad suit still bad. Haven't tried armor tanking it yet; might be worth a shot. Also, Rattati reported good results running with a laser rifle.
I believe this, having run the LR on Scout during the 1.x (can't remember) days. I hope no one tries to push for this as a role, however. I can't imagine any scout would, afterall:
Scout = stealth, speed, assassination
LR = HERE I AM!!
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
997
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:52:00 -
[46088] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:dzizur wrote:
Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
see, when i saw those bonuses I jumped at it figuring, "Run forever and see people!" what happened was, "Run from people you see forever!"
Lol. Unfortunatelly it's either running or seeing ;) It's supposed to be a "scout hunter" if that helps. Maybe try fitting max prec on left and max ferroscale on right and see how it goes? :D
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:53:00 -
[46089] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong Run forest, RUN! Seriously though, the whole community isn't that sure about AM Scout role. I am not even sure of the scout role as a whole :P Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks. ^^ Sad to say that this is the truth. Sorry man! (Hope you didn't invest too heavily....)
no worries, I had SP to blow.  |
J0LLY R0G3R
4
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:53:00 -
[46090] - Quote
I was told cal logi apex suit is worst apex suit. So I said I'd try it out for the event . Soooo anyone hav the cal logi spex suit I can borrow for first day of event? |
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
997
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:53:00 -
[46091] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong I got nothing. Skilled back into to it to double check. Bad suit still bad. Haven't tried armor tanking it yet; might be worth a shot. Also, Rattati reported good results running with a laser rifle. I believe this, having run the LR on Scout during the 1.x (can't remember) days. I hope no one tries to push for this as a role, however. I can't imagine any scout would, afterall: Scout = stealth, speed, assassination LR = HERE I AM!!
funny thing, rattati mentioned in a post like a week ago this combo - Am Scout + LR, but I'm pretty sure he was trolling :D
On another note - as seen by some gameplay video - LR has dat magical AA! :)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
15
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:53:00 -
[46092] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:I now have Cal scout.
I like the Cal scout.
It actually hits and runs better than the minmatar scout. It has utterly fantastic shield regen.
Agreed. Surprisingly good at hit-and-run shotgunning. I've had good results with NKs + Rifle/Bolt as well (1 damp, 1 red). Don't forget to try it with 3x precision! Good Scout suit. 2nd best, IMO. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 12:56:00 -
[46093] - Quote
dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:dzizur wrote:
Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
see, when i saw those bonuses I jumped at it figuring, "Run forever and see people!" what happened was, "Run from people you see forever!" Lol. Unfortunatelly it's either running or seeing ;) It's supposed to be a "scout hunter" if that helps. Maybe try fitting max prec on left and max ferroscale on right and see how it goes? :D
I deleted 15 heavy fittings to make 15 scout fittings to figure this suit out.
i got the heavy, logi, and commando meta down, so I went to go learn scouts next. and the first suit i choose - Amarr, already has me lost, lol.
Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
15
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:02:00 -
[46094] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:dzizur wrote:
Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
see, when i saw those bonuses I jumped at it figuring, "Run forever and see people!" what happened was, "Run from people you see forever!"
Lol. And slowly, at that. I've yet to come up with a single, decent sub-21dB AM Scout fitting. Probably better off not dampening at all.
Not fast. Not stealthy. Is Scout? |
dzizur
Nos Nothi
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:04:00 -
[46095] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:
Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol
Shotgun doesn't seem a good weapon for killing scouts IMO. I've had better luck one shotting them with breach ScP, bolt pistol, spamming with flaylock or MD.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
15
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:06:00 -
[46096] - Quote
dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:
Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol
Shotgun doesn't seem a good weapon for killing scouts IMO. I've had better luck one shotting them with breach ScP, bolt pistol, spamming with flaylock or MD.
Core Nades are also pretty good at popping Scouts . Ask Xavier Zor :P |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:08:00 -
[46097] - Quote
my AR and ASCR seems to melt scouts well enough, lol.
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:08:00 -
[46098] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:
Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol
Shotgun doesn't seem a good weapon for killing scouts IMO. I've had better luck one shotting them with breach ScP, bolt pistol, spamming with flaylock or MD. Core Nades are also pretty good at popping Scouts . Ask Xavier Zor :P
Yeah, core nades make scouts biomass ;P |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:20:00 -
[46099] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I now have Cal scout.
I like the Cal scout.
It actually hits and runs better than the minmatar scout. It has utterly fantastic shield regen. Agreed. Surprisingly good at hit-and-run shotgunning. I've had good results with NKs + Rifle/Bolt as well (1 damp, 1 red). Don't forget to try it with 3x precision! Good Scout suit. 2nd best, IMO.
I don't run a shotgun with it.
I run 3x Shields, 1x Precision, 1x Kincat, 1x Damp
Assault RR, Bolt Pistol, C-7 Flux, Cloak.
That's it.
It a hilariously effective flanking suit. You can sit back at range to pop a guy or two, then fall back behind cover. If they start to advance, light them up a bit, cloak and re-position.
Repeat ad infinum.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Mad Kras
649
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:29:00 -
[46100] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:my AR and ASCR seems to melt scouts well enough, lol.
Every weapon melts the scout instantly, cover yourself in tinfoil and you'll have more hp
Find your new home
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:46:00 -
[46101] - Quote
Since Amarr scout is the topic of the day: How I would fit it.
Slayer fit for when scanners aren't an issue.
Utility fit.
With only 75 shields, yet decent regen stats, I consider the extender necessary. Its a quick, and effective way of keeping your overall HP higher, since shields still regen much faster than armor.
Biotic is another one of those items I consider too good on scouts to pass up. Just one gives you tangible benefits, due to your high base speed.
Slayer fit has one damp so he can fit more HP and regen. Damp fit uses two to avoid detection, with a reactive and kincat to keep his speed and health up.
AScR + Flaylock is for flexibility in engagements. You can easily handle other scouts in CQC with their meagre health, provided you get the drop on them (You should, Amarr scout and all). Also gives you the ability to operate at range if need be.
Slayer sacrifices secondary equip for more fitting power. Utility uses links to support team.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 13:48:00 -
[46102] - Quote
I've been a heavy for 3+ years, scouts have always been the Frodo to my Sauron. Throwing RE's at me, shooting me in the back, killing my allies, then running away. Catching the sneaky bastards before they toss my ring into the lava can be a *****
So i took off the One Ring and picked up the Hobbits kitchen knife. And, damn, that's a nasty kitchen knife. |
VAHZZ
RabbitSwarm
8
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Posted - 2015.09.15 14:37:00 -
[46103] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Ark shall be proud, i respecced, and fully specced into the Gallente Assault.
Also Ark, i used your guide to help. Aw. :') Someone actually read it. Feel free to ask questions.
Can I use this bloody thing like a scout?  Jk lol
I already add REs to my pub fit, which is hilarious to me.
I am trying to think of a good recon fit. Not like that stupid recon starter fit, an ACTUAL recon fit.
"I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.09.15 16:04:00 -
[46104] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:
Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol
Shotgun doesn't seem a good weapon for killing scouts IMO. I've had better luck one shotting them with breach ScP, bolt pistol, spamming with flaylock or MD. Core Nades are also pretty good at popping Scouts . Ask Xavier Zor :P
They're good at everything.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
9
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Posted - 2015.09.15 16:25:00 -
[46105] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:After playing with Commandos I tried some scouts out...
But I can't really seem to get any real use out of my Amarr scout. Thinking maybe I should switch to Caldari for the highs for extra DPS if i'm going to be so reliant on flanking.
Anyone got any idea what role this suit is even supposed to accomplish? Maybe i'm just looking at this suit wrong I got nothing. Skilled back into to it to double check. Bad suit still bad. Haven't tried armor tanking it yet; might be worth a shot. Also, Rattati reported good results running with a laser rifle. I believe this, having run the LR on Scout during the 1.x (can't remember) days. I hope no one tries to push for this as a role, however. I can't imagine any scout would, afterall: Scout = stealth, speed, assassination LR = HERE I AM!!
I've had some luck using a cloak and damped Amarr Scout with the LR.
But i spend more time moving positions on the fringe due to giving away my location. I didn't die a lot, but I did not accomplish much. Running the ScR closer to the action and circling around remains much more effective, and profitable. Precision keeps me aware of who is coming for me and lets me turn the tables on scouts who figure out where I am hitting from. Higher range on passive would help. Not a huge increase in range, maybe close to what the Logi gets.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
9
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Posted - 2015.09.15 16:34:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:dzizur wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:dzizur wrote:
Even more seriously, If you don't know the bonuses - AM scout has stamina bonus, you can run longer distances than any other suit, you also have stronger precision, which lets you see dampened people, but your scanning range sucks.
see, when i saw those bonuses I jumped at it figuring, "Run forever and see people!" what happened was, "Run from people you see forever!" Lol. Unfortunatelly it's either running or seeing ;) It's supposed to be a "scout hunter" if that helps. Maybe try fitting max prec on left and max ferroscale on right and see how it goes? :D I deleted 15 heavy fittings to make 15 scout fittings to figure this suit out. i got the heavy, logi, and commando meta down, so I went to go learn scouts next. and the first suit i choose - Amarr, already has me lost, lol. Scout killer makes sense, but that's a really tricky role when you suck as bad as i do with a shotgun lol
Don't SG with the Amarr scoutGǪ at least to kill other scouts. Other scouts with the SG have more mobility than you do. Kinz don't help with the fines work. You want a range advantage over SG scout. I like the ScR for this as it is extremely versatile weapon. Charge shot drops most scouts, spammable when needed. Also covers all the ranges that you could want for initiating an engagement, especially when you are damped and get to pick your fights.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2015.09.15 16:53:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I now have Cal scout.
I like the Cal scout.
It actually hits and runs better than the minmatar scout. It has utterly fantastic shield regen.
Now you're making me want it.
Hey Ghost, is your corp pub chat LOLFA? |
Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2015.09.15 16:59:00 -
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Anyone know AE's pub chat? |
XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.09.15 17:04:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Anyone know AE's pub chat?
We don't have one.
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2015.09.15 17:09:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Anyone know AE's pub chat? We don't have one.
Well then.... be that way! :)
Do you know whose in leadership that I can hit up? |
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