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Matticus Monk wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Already done! And it ended up working pretty well:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926

The HP / Speed Curve was rolled out alongside a reduction in strafe speed multiplier (iirc 100% of forward movement to 60% or 70% of forward movement) and +1 slot for Commandos. I personally thought it'd be safer to implement the Speed HP Curve then the Strafe Reduction later (was concerned that doing both simultaneously might be too much). Rattati and Cross felt otherwise. They were right; I was wrong, though not spectacularly wrong like some.

That thread would actually make for a good read, Monk; I highly recommend it. Diametrically opposed interests hash it out tooth-and-nail. One side is right and the other dead wrong, though passionate nonetheless. Good prep for things to come, I think.

Sweet! Yeah, that thread is pretty nice, especially with Rattatti's graphs for info. I'll have to take a closer look at the suits tomorrow - I'm glad they addressed that discrepancy.

The thread is a pretty good read too, only on p#2 but it's definitely heating up.

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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.28 12:10:00 - [44791] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: @shotty Dust the first game ya started playing with prohic? Seen a few on ps2 lately. lol I never thought of Shotty's old PHI crew as pro-hiccuppers. Lol. Yep! First time I'd ever met 'em here in Dust. Breach shotgunned a guy named 'Sardaukar' (spelling?) in face. Got recruited. Genuinely nice folks. They've been playing together for years and years. Perhaps badly though, as most of 'em are old farts like me :-) CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
Mad Kras 406	Posted - 2015.08.28 12:11:00 - [44792] - Quote That moment when Gandhi tells you that you're a scrub and he'll destroy you cuz your army sucks #civ5 The town I live in hosts american students every year, they come to study architecture, you can usually easily recognize them because they tend to be loud and have weird clothes must admit they're very cool people though Slowly travelling back to MH Find your new home
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.28 12:16:00 - [44793] - Quote Good times pewpewing with Kodho and Grim Gear last night! CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
dzizur Nos Nothi 748	Posted - 2015.08.28 13:35:00 - [44794] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: mollerz wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Random Observation Time! My merc was born 897 days ago in March of 2013 * 3 out of 4 non-basic Scout Frames (bet you can't guess which one I spec'd out of) ] My clone is older nyah nyah! And my guess is minja since I have seen you knife in everything but.. so why would you bother with it? Knifing really sucks right now. What? Knifing's in the best place it's ever been in! Whacha smokin? ;)
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.08.28 13:55:00 - [44795] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: That moment when Gandhi tells you that you're a scrub and he'll destroy you cuz your army sucks #civ5 Ah Gandhi, truly one of the wisest men who ever lived. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Mad Kras 428	Posted - 2015.08.28 13:58:00 - [44796] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Mad Kras wrote: That moment when Gandhi tells you that you're a scrub and he'll destroy you cuz your army sucks #civ5 Ah Gandhi, truly one of the wisest men who ever lived. Looks like a legit quote to me Slowly travelling back to MH Find your new home
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:00:00 - [44797] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Already done! And it ended up working pretty well: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2792926#post2792926 The HP / Speed Curve was rolled out alongside a reduction in strafe speed multiplier (iirc 100% of forward movement to 60% or 70% of forward movement) and +1 slot for Commandos. I personally thought it'd be safer to implement the Speed HP Curve then the Strafe Reduction later (was concerned that doing both simultaneously might be too much). Rattati and Cross felt otherwise. They were right; I was wrong, though not spectacularly wrong like some. That thread would actually make for a good read, Monk; I highly recommend it. Diametrically opposed interests hash it out tooth-and-nail. One side is right and the other dead wrong, though passionate nonetheless. Good prep for things to come, I think. Sweet! Yeah, that thread is pretty nice, especially with Rattatti's graphs for info. I'll have to take a closer look at the suits tomorrow - I'm glad they addressed that discrepancy. The thread is a pretty good read too, only on p#2 but it's definitely heating up. What's interesting about that thread is how Rattati adjusted the changes based on feedback. Some feedback he followed, and some he didn't. What we ended up with is one of the most balanced updates to date. Feedback that turned out correct: Ratatti significantly toned down the nerf to assault speed that was originally proposed. Much of the discussion was about the role of the assault suit. If the hp/seed curve was followed, assaults would be much slower. However, Rattati seems to have taken on board concerns that this would leave assaults with no distinguishing feature. They have therefore been allowed to stay above the hp/speed curve. On the new progression tab the description of assault suits is "fast and durable" cementing their defining characteristic as being above the speed/hp curve. Trying to define assaults has been something the community has struggled with for years. Feedback that was wrong: Many predicted the return of slayer logis, if they were made faster than assaults. Thankfully Rattati didn't agree and logis are now faster than assaults, without replacing assaults. Many also felt the strafe nerf would ruin gunplay, destroy assaults, or render skill moot. Strafe was nerfed and these concerns were shown to be incorrect. This is how I remember things anyway. A good, yet heated discussion. Praise be to Rattati.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:15:00 - [44798] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Good times pewpewing with Kodho and Grim Gear last night! I genuinely have only ever seen Kodho snipe with a Thale's. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:22:00 - [44799] - Quote Thinking about passive scans again. Perhaps it's a simple as buffing range amps to 10/15/20%? Someone suggested this before. Logi inner scans wouldn't be long enough to counter scouts entirely. Amarr and Caldari scouts should be able to get pretty decent range on scans. A much more simple change.
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:47:00 - [44800] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Good times pewpewing with Kodho and Grim Gear last night! I genuinely have only ever seen Kodho snipe with a Thale's. The only thing I have ever sniped with was a covenant. Bittervet

J0LLY R0G3R Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:49:00 - [44801] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Good times pewpewing with Kodho and Grim Gear last night! I genuinely have only ever seen Kodho snipe with a Thale's. Super common officer weapon, easier to protect than other officer stuff . Makes sense to use it. Lacking
J0LLY R0G3R Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.08.28 15:42:00 - [44802] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: @shotty Dust the first game ya started playing with prohic? Seen a few on ps2 lately. lol I never thought of Shotty's old PHI crew as pro-hiccuppers. Lol. Yep! First time I'd ever met 'em here in Dust. Breach shotgunned a guy named 'Sardaukar' (spelling?) in face. Got recruited. Genuinely nice folks. They've been playing together for years and years. Perhaps badly though, as most of 'em are old farts like me :-) Didn't know if they started up in dust or go from game to game. Good to see a groupsticking together. No clue if they are doing well or not only seen one or two here and there when attacking the vanu. Only matters if they are having that fun really. Lacking
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.28 15:52:00 - [44803] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Good times pewpewing with Kodho and Grim Gear last night! I genuinely have only ever seen Kodho snipe with a Thale's. Super common officer weapon, easier to protect than other officer stuff . Makes sense to use it. I suppose the Thale's part is irrelevant. What I mean is that I've never seen Kodho do anything other than snipe. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Llast 326 An Arkhos 8	Posted - 2015.08.28 16:42:00 - [44804] - Quote Had fun breaking a redline last nightGÇª Went around wide hacked 2 CRUGÇª came up on the enemy campsite. These guys had tents, campfires and were roasting some marshmallows. I snuck up and dropped an REGÇª 2 down. Put down another REGÇª 3 more. Time to run as the rest of turn around to try and find me. drop another as I round the corner. BOOM three more. At this point my team pushed out from the redline. (perhaps the rarest sight in Dust) Took the objective and we ended it with a very close match. They had 50 something clones we had 20ish. Held the objective until MCCs were down to the wire. Reds one, but not without cost. I knifed many more people, ended it 18-8 and about 1800 WP just for Hackin'Slashin with some Boom for good measure. Next match ended up decent as well. Lots of back and forth, and had to work for the win. Most notable thing in that one was a little Gal scout on the red side. I think he was new and I felt bad. First encounter he had Knives outGÇª so I approach. We are alone so it's a good Knife fight chanceGÇª He pulls out his SG. I sidestep and dignalslash my way in. He's on the ground. Go about my business of taking the CRU he hacked and killing some other reds. He appears again a little laterGÇª SG in hand. He goes for the jump shot. I run under him turn and knife him in the spine as he lands. Shortly after he comes running directly at me Knives outGÇª I can't trust this will be a Knife fight. He gets a Breach Flaylock round in the chest. I was going to squad with him after that, or at least see if he need some gear or ISK, but sadly he had a similar name to some other merc on his teamGÇª and Neither of them admitted to being that scout. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 12	Posted - 2015.08.28 17:00:00 - [44805] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: now at school playing pokemon. Because boredom. Did that senior year as well. Try the Nuzlock challenge. Lots of fun on an emulator. RULES: Any Pok+¬mon that faints is considered dead, and must be released or put in the Pok+¬mon Storage System permanently. The player may only catch the first Pok+¬mon encountered in each area, and none else. If the first Pok+¬mon encountered faints or flees, there are no second chances. If the first encounter in the area is a Double Battle in dark grass, the player may choose which of the two Pok+¬mon they would like to catch. While not exactly a definite rule, the general consensus is that players must also nickname all of their Pok+¬mon, for the sake of forming stronger emotional bonds. Also not a definite rule, but the general consensus is that a black out/white out is considered to be "game over", even if there are Pok+¬mon left in the PC. Strongly implied, though not explicitly mentioned in the comic, is the stipulation that the player can use only Pok+¬mon they have captured themselves, meaning traded Pok+¬mon, mystery gifts, etc., are prohibited. Trading and retrading the same Pok+¬mon (for the purpose of evolving a Graveler, for example) is something of a gray area, and may fall under optional rules. As of White: Hard-Mode Episode 3, it is implied that the player can accept Pok+¬mon that are received freely from NPCs. Also strongly implied is a prohibition against voluntarily resetting and reloading the game when things go wrong. Being able to do so would render all of the other rules pointless. OPTIONAL RULES Starter Pok+¬mon is based off the player's Trainer ID number. If the last number is 1-3 the player starts with a Grass type, 4-6 is Fire type, 7-9 is Water type, 0 is the player's choice. Species/Dupes Clause: Adjusting the first encounter rule to prevent the player from having to catch multiple of the same Pok+¬mon, for the sake of variety. Generally this means that the trainer can keep fighting Pok+¬mon in the area until one is encountered that has not been caught yet, which then immediately counts as the first encounter. As an extension, setting a limit on how much Dupes Clause can trigger in an area. If that limit is reached, no Pok+¬mon can be caught in that area (alternatively; the trainer has to settle for the last allowed duplicate to trigger the clause). Not officially enforcing the rules until the player has Pok+¬ Balls and can catch Pok+¬mon. For example, the PoochyenaRS/ZigzagoonE that the player has to save Professor Birch from is not counted as the first encounter on the route, and not counting any other encounters as such until they can catch. Likewise, in the games where the rival battle is immediately after getting the starter Pok+¬mon, the "any that faint must be released" rule is not enforced at that time. Use the same amount of Pok+¬mon as the opponent during a Gym battle or rival battle. Going to options and making the battle style "set", leaving the player unable to switch out. Releasing the starter Pok+¬mon after the first wild Pok+¬mon has been caught. Banning the use of Potions and healing items, relying only on Pok+¬mon Centers for healing. Banning the use of Pok+¬mon Centers, relying only on Potions and healing items for healing. Limiting Pok+¬mon Center visits to a certain number per town. Banning the use of held items. Limiting the number of Pok+¬ Balls to purchase per Pok+¬ Mart. Banning the use of Master Balls. Rather than releasing the Pok+¬mon, it can be permanently boxed, migrated, or transferred with Pok+¬ Transfer should it happen to faint. The player may not evolve captured Pok+¬mon, but evolved Pok+¬mon may be caught. Turning the difficulty on to Challenge Mode if playing Black 2 and White 2, which increases the levels of opposing Trainers. No catching/using Legendary Pok+¬mon. As a mercy rule, allowing 1-3 "second chances" or revives of fallen team members. As another mercy rule, if the player runs into a Shiny Pok+¬mon, the player may still catch it, regardless of whether or not it is the first encounter in the area. It also does not need to be released if it faints. As another mercy rule, each Gym Badge acts as a checkpoint. If the player gets a game over, they can start from when they got their previous Gym Badge. If the player has no Pok+¬mon that can use a certain field move that is required to continue through any given point of the game, they may catch another Pok+¬mon that can learn said field move. However, it cannot be used in battle for any reason, and must be released, permanently boxed, or migrated as soon as the player gets another Pok+¬mon that can use said field move. Modifying the "first encounter only" rule for the Safari Zone, sometimes allowing one encounter for each area, or until they catch one Pok+¬mon in the entire area, and vice versa. Banning the use of Pok+¬ Marts. Disallow fleeing. Setting a level limit based on the next Gym Leader's/Champion's highest leveled Pok+¬mon. What must happen to any team members that surpass that limit before taking on the Gym Leader or Elite Four is up to the player. Banning Pok+¬ Balls entirely, any Pok+¬mon obtained must be either given to the player or hatched from an Egg. Banning use of the day care to breed or level up Pok+¬mon. Turning off the Exp. Share. Banning use of certain features that make the game easier, such as Pok+¬mon-Amie, the DexNav, or Super Training. Some of the best fun I've ever had in pokemon. I underlined the optional rules I used. I did it on Emerald, and I think I might actually do another runthrough now. I never actually finished my last one. Got to Fortree city before life picked up again. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
mollerz 6	Posted - 2015.08.28 17:27:00 - [44806] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: lol no - you can tell an American by the unused knife lying beside their dinner plate :-p Who are you accusing around here that doesn't use knives? Yea da fuq!?
VAHZZ RabbitSwarm 7	Posted - 2015.08.28 17:33:00 - [44807] - Quote I've made a new challenge for myself in pokemon. Can only use 2 pokemon the entire game. Can not use healing items, but unlike a Nuzlocke, if your pokemon die you can still use them. Obviously can still use Pokecenters. It puts great emphasis on selection, because if you get an HM slave, you are stuck with it. You can pick any two pokemon, you just have to figure out how to get em. Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm "I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Mad Kras 444	Posted - 2015.08.28 17:41:00 - [44808] - Quote Digimon > pokemon Slowly travelling back to MH Find your new home
mollerz 6	Posted - 2015.08.28 18:48:00 - [44809] - Quote XCOM 2 got delayed until 2016
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 18:56:00 - [44810] - Quote mollerz wrote: XCOM 2 got delayed until 2016 Good Bittervet

mollerz 6	Posted - 2015.08.28 18:58:00 - [44811] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: mollerz wrote: XCOM 2 got delayed until 2016 Good Actually that was my second and final thought on it. So much good stuff coming out in the next couple months may as well hold that off and hopefully polish it up. We have metal gear solid this coming week, fallout 4, star marine.... mercy please!
The Noob Destroyer 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 19:18:00 - [44812] - Quote noob cavman wrote: I have just eaten an inch and a half thick tbone with garlic butter. My insides are rebelling Dx Take some pepto PAS People Against Signatures.
sir RAVEN WING RabbitSwarm 4	Posted - 2015.08.28 19:50:00 - [44813] - Quote mollerz wrote: One Eyed King wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: lol no - you can tell an American by the unused knife lying beside their dinner plate :-p Who are you accusing around here that doesn't use knives? Yea da fuq!? Edit- I'll have you know I eat soup with a knife. I'll have you know I eat my canned soup like a real NKer. I take my NK, use it to open the can, charge it to warm the soup, and drink the soup like it was nothing. Like a real Raven. Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm "They can't top our sidetrackin'" - VAHZZ
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 26	Posted - 2015.08.28 19:52:00 - [44814] - Quote A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 19:53:00 - [44815] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Is it bad that I don't know what you're talking about? Bittervet
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 26	Posted - 2015.08.28 19:56:00 - [44816] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Is it bad that I don't know what you're talking about? Yes. ;_; Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 20:00:00 - [44817] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Is it bad that I don't know what you're talking about? Yes. ;_; Elaborate Bittervet
VAHZZ RabbitSwarm 7	Posted - 2015.08.28 20:00:00 - [44818] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Is it bad that I don't know what you're talking about? Yes. ;_; Elaborate MAG Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm "I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.28 20:02:00 - [44819] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A REAL RAVEN USES AN R-553 OR A HOLLIS A3 OR ATAC-2000 Is it bad that I don't know what you're talking about? Yes. ;_; Elaborate MAG ? Bittervet
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.28 20:07:00 - [44820] - Quote Sony Online Entertainment FPS that had its server shut down. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.



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