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mollerz
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:53:00 -
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@Kaeru
While there may be nuggets of hindsight in your extremely granular breakdown of Dunc's possible mistakes, the fluidity of combat in this game is mad opportunity to **** up. What is important, is how you fight.
Dunc is a solid minja, and I was particularly impressed with his ability to go frontal assault- which isnot easy. Lot so fminjas go stealth and he went all kin cat and in their faces.
**** ain't easy.. but it is fun. That's my style. My only criticism is that he relies too much on his AR. He should also sacrifice more of his shield to draw prey in and then knife them.
Basically, he's too nice.
If you over analyze too much you end up too rigid to deal with **** going wrong.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2320
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:55:00 -
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I wish I had a capture card...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2387
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:19:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I wish I had a capture card... Yeah, same here. Watching other people's NK gameplay always feels so slow. Not that there's anything wrong with that playstyle of course, it's just that when I run NKs I play like a coked up rabbit in a blood frenzy and I feel like that would be entertaining to watch :P Unfortunately a cap card just isn't worth the price for me.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8299
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:48:00 -
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Ambush, start of match. Enemy Minja and I have the same idea; we're both running the same route but in opposing directions. We round a crate and dang near smack into one another head-on. I see his knives. He sees mine. We're all alone ... Knife Fight!
I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?)
:: blurp blurp ::
I wiggle around then signal him with another air-slash. Surely, just a panicked reaction on his part; probably an honest mistake. But this time I'm hugging the corner of the crate ... just in case ...
:: blurp blurp blurp::
So I continue 'round the crate, and of course he does too ...
:: Boooooom! :: :: Boom-Boom! ::
He walked right into my Core Locus nade and a volley of pocket rockets for good measure.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Kaeru Nayiri
Ready to Play
817
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:56:00 -
[32405] - Quote
mollerz wrote:@Kaeru
While there may be nuggets of hindsight in your extremely granular breakdown of Dunc's possible mistakes, the fluidity of combat in this game is mad opportunity to **** up. What is important, is how you fight.
Dunc is a solid minja, and I was particularly impressed with his ability to go frontal assault- which isnot easy. Lot so fminjas go stealth and he went all kin cat and in their faces.
**** ain't easy.. but it is fun. That's my style. My only criticism is that he relies too much on his AR. He should also sacrifice more of his shield to draw prey in and then knife them.
Basically, he's too nice.
If you over analyze too much you end up too rigid to deal with **** going wrong.
You are absolutely right, and I thank you for pointing that out. I honestly still have A LOT to learn.
Know what cannot be known.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Nos Nothi
630
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Posted - 2015.03.25 06:11:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ambush, start of match. Enemy Minja and I have the same idea; we're both running the same route but in opposing directions. We round a crate and dang near smack into one another head-on. I see his knives. He sees mine. We're all alone ... Knife Fight! I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?) :: blurp blurp ::I wiggle around then signal him with another air-slash. Surely, just a panicked reaction on his part; probably an honest mistake. But this time I'm hugging the corner of the crate ... just in case ... :: blurp blurp blurp::So I continue 'round the crate, and of course he does too ... :: Boooooom! :: :: Boom-Boom! :: Walked right into my Core Locus nade and a volley of pocket rockets for good measure. Lol nice. I'm running my Minja more often now. It's fun, fl and nk=fun. Enjoying waiting in a corner for a enemy assault to rush me and I swing him and watch that +50 |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23020
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Posted - 2015.03.25 07:03:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?)
*I hop back and give him the signal to mow me down for a free kill*
Gallente Guide
"More like a ban farm amirite" - CCP Frame
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game RUST415
7988
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Posted - 2015.03.25 07:43:00 -
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Put my passive sp on my alt for now, not like I need anymore on this character, I suppose if I want I could always find an American psn card for a respec later if I wanted. So much gear I never use now, why do I have proto ion pistol, Or Level 4 AR?
Edit: I'd argue that the bolt pistol/nova knifes are the stealth fit of glory. (Re's for extra UMPF)
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1846
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?)
*I hop back and give him the signal to mow me down for a free kill*
* I hop back and give honour one chance*
PS. @Kaeru - I will respond when I get home, but I can't tell you how appreciative I am of your assessment of that game. More later |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1846
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:59:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Do we know how the competitive meta has evolved post-myofibrils? The first two days everyone was moaning about FOTM and how they were changing the landscape of the game, how much of that has really persisted?
Barely seeing any crazy jumpers. Except the one that Zebedee'd in front of me with 1HP left as I slashed empty air with knives. PLC'ed me from 15'. Gotta say that was actually a very clever move on his part...assuming he knew I was closing in with knives and wasn't lucky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVjojhWWwg#t=10m59 |
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Murt Lesp
Leviathan Battalion
342
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:12:00 -
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Nothing quite like coming back to the forum to find 200+ notifications. Like so many times before, I give up trying to back-track.
Might have to use Monk and Blaziken's method
Or be more diligent
Mercenaries are basically Alchemist Soldiers: They turn lead into gold on the battlefield
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
6166
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:35:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?)
*I hop back and give him the signal to mow me down for a free kill* * I hop back and give honour one chance* Honour is a fallacy. Take and use every advantage you can.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2477
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:16:00 -
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I need a new suit to run around in. Was thinking cal asault but part of me want another scout on the main. Cal scout or wiggle wiggle or min scout for slash slash.
No Safety Net.
My Youtube
TLDR : XD
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Nos Nothi
630
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:25:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:I need a new suit to run around in. Was thinking cal asault but part of me want another scout on the main. Cal scout or wiggle wiggle or min scout for slash slash. Become one of us, go for Minja and you won't be disappointed. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1848
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:30:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Put my passive sp on my alt for now, not like I need anymore on this character, I suppose if I want I could always find an American psn card for a respec later if I wanted. So much gear I never use now, why do I have proto ion pistol, Or Level 4 AR?
Edit: I'd argue that the bolt pistol/nova knifes are the stealth fit of glory. (Re's for extra UMPF)
Yeah I like this idea. I think I've figured out that I have no gun game - running Gal Assault with AR tree almost maxed and following Arkena's guide...I lose 1 v 1s. I lose when I should win. Situationally, everything is in my favour. DPS, I'm not at a disadvantage with 2x cDMs. The only conclusion I draw from this is I'm not good at aiming with a rifle.
So I look at my Minja and I think...hmmmm what to put with the IshNoks. What is it that I am missing there. There should be no reason an AR is worse than a CR - in fact seeing as you're likely to be using it at relatively close range, then the AR should be the better choice. So I decided not to dump 2m SP into CR tree...for now.
I have good levels in plasma cannon - but just no. Not when you are up close and personal and need to finish a target. I have good levels in mass driver...but again no. Though it might be better than a rifle. Hmmm you know what I may try this.
So I think either the Flaylock, or the Bolt. I've used the BP before - amazing weapon. Flaylock I've not used so much. Then I look at the BP as the perfect, and I mean *perfect* accompaniment to the shotgun - which I also like to use. BP has the longest range of all the sidearms. So I may be putting points back into the BP tree. Except......I remember the BP being really tough to use within 15m and when your prey is aware of you.
Hmmmm....perhaps the flaylock after all. First up though - mass driver. Though I have a feeling it will be terrible.
TL;DR BP is a great weapon outside of 15m and dancing mercs and a great accompaniment to a SG or knives.
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:I need a new suit to run around in. Was thinking cal asault but part of me want another scout on the main. Cal scout or wiggle wiggle or min scout for slash slash.
I want to see you with Knives
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1848
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:34:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Do we know how the competitive meta has evolved post-myofibrils? The first two days everyone was moaning about FOTM and how they were changing the landscape of the game, how much of that has really persisted? Barely seeing any crazy jumpers. Except the one that Zebedee'd in front of me with 1HP left as I slashed empty air with knives. PLC'ed me from 15'. Gotta say that was actually a very clever move on his part...assuming he knew I was closing in with knives and wasn't lucky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVjojhWWwg#t=10m59
[edit] ok not 1HP left but definitely an OHK with a charged blade. Could've sworn he was almost dead. That was a proto gal assault no? I can get 30 HP / s armour recharge on an ADV. Wonder what he was wearing - maybe I'll ask him. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1848
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:52:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:mollerz wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:mollerz wrote: Is it better to run 3x E Shield extenders now?
Enhanced Shields aren't bad anymore, and they free up alot of space. I run 'em on my most of my advanced loadouts (as well as a few assault and scout mk.0 loadouts). So 3x E is better than 2x C now? Both in HP and CPU/PG? Doubt it. Just easier to fit, and not as weak in terms of payout (something like -15hp from complex). Protofits.com has the numbers :-)
This is comparing 3x versus 2x, not 3 v 3?
Level 5 skills, MinScout suit:
- 3x E -- HP == +165 -- SDRD == +0.62 (4% + 4% + 4%) -- CPU / PG == 108 / 18 -- ISK == 7830
- 2x C -- HP == +145 -- SDRD == +0.72 (7% + 7%) -- CPU / PG == 162 / 33 -- ISK == 8550
*If* you can't use the third slot otherwise, then 3 enhanced is better on every count.
Mollerz I think they bumped the Enh shields from 33 HP to 50 HP to fix their progression (22 / 33 / 66 --> 33 / 50 / 66) They may also have played with the fitting costs too - I don't remember |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1849
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:00:00 -
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mollerz wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
That fit has no equipment and no nades. My love of speed means you can't put **** all else on it. But who needs it with IshNoks on a Minja haah
what is your Elec/Eng/SA/LW/EXPL skills at? Minjas need em all at 5! It is a shame about the kin cats... it makes no sense an injected drug needs that much PG. And that Quafe AR .. WTF is up with the dispersion on that thing? FFS!
Elec 5 Eng 5 LW might be 4 only EXPL - not using but I have core nades available
What is SA?
Re dispersion: think I'm at L4 on the AR sharpshooter
I can't remember if I'd just stopped running or was moving whilst firing - remember Logibro posted a bunch of info about how kick or dispersion works a while back....not sure if that affected anything there. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1849
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:01:00 -
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Spademan wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?)
*I hop back and give him the signal to mow me down for a free kill* * I hop back and give honour one chance* Honour is a fallacy. Take and use every advantage you can.
Tell that to myself and True Adamance ;-)
Many a fun duel has been fought between him and I.
However outside of pubs? All bets are off |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8305
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:06:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:I need a new suit to run around in. Was thinking cal asault but part of me want another scout on the main. Cal scout or wiggle wiggle or min scout for slash slash. I want to see you with Knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTMKFlNjpnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukbHbItP-g
Oldie but Goodie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2477
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:06:00 -
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That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether
No Safety Net.
My Youtube
TLDR : XD
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8305
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:07:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether Thought it was 5m to go zero-to-pro ... will check.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2479
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:27:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether Thought it was 5M to go zero-to-pro ... will check. Edit: Scratch that. 3M's plenty.
If I can get it to adv min scout, ill rum it some this weekend after bloodborne breaks my spirit.
No Safety Net.
My Youtube
TLDR : XD
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8306
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:40:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether Thought it was 5M to go zero-to-pro ... will check. Edit: Scratch that. 3M's plenty. If I can get it to adv min scout, ill rum it some this weekend after bloodborne breaks my spirit. Looking forward to it :-)
PS: 1 Cmp Damp + 1 Enh Damp will put your MinScout at 20 dB. That's enough to beat scans, but you'll need 2 Cmp Damps if you want to duck MedFrame inner rings (20dB).
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2323
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:11:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether Thought it was 5M to go zero-to-pro ... will check. Edit: Scratch that. 3M's plenty. If I can get it to adv min scout, ill rum it some this weekend after bloodborne breaks my spirit. Looking forward to it :-) PS: 1 Cmp Damp + 1 Enh Damp will put your MinScout at 20 dB. That's enough to beat scans, but you'll need 2 Cmp Damps if you want to duck MedFrame inner rings (20dB). It's really not worth it. By the time they notice, they're dead. I only use more than one Complex Damp if I get actively scanned, which isn't often.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:21:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:That last link is part of reason I was thinkin min scout. Need some more nk sprees to finish something off. 3 mill enough to proto it? Don't have any I'm min light ether Thought it was 5M to go zero-to-pro ... will check. Edit: Scratch that. 3M's plenty. If I can get it to adv min scout, ill rum it some this weekend after bloodborne breaks my spirit. Looking forward to it :-) PS: 1 Cmp Damp + 1 Enh Damp will put your MinScout at 20 dB. That's enough to beat scans, but you'll need 2 Cmp Damps if you want to duck MedFrame inner rings (20dB). It's really not worth it. By the time they notice, they're dead. I only use more than one Complex Damp if I get actively scanned, which isn't often. It really depends on the opponent and (to a lesser degree) playmode. It is dang near mandatory to run 2 damps in Ambush.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8816
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:25:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ambush, start of match. Enemy Minja and I have the same idea; we're both running the same route but in opposing directions. We round a crate and dang near smack into one another head-on. I see his knives. He sees mine. We're all alone ... Knife Fight! I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?) :: blurp blurp ::I wiggle around then signal him with another air-slash. Surely, just a panicked reaction on his part; probably an honest mistake. But this time I'm hugging the corner of the crate ... just in case ... :: blurp blurp blurp::So I continue 'round the crate, and of course he does too ... :: Boooooom! :: :: Boom-Boom! :: Walked right into my Core Locus nade and a volley of pocket rockets for good measure. I had a similar situation in Skirmish. Was in the city in one of the stairwells, and did the same thing. I think he may have had a shotgun and not a rifle, but I gave him the chance, and he kept trying to shoot me with a shotgun.
He deserved worse than a Flaylock, but that was all I had to give him.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2323
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:26:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:It really depends on the opponent and (to a lesser degree) playmode. It is dang near mandatory to run 2 damps in Ambush. I don't run Ambush, so I wouldn't know...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2323
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:27:00 -
[32429] - Quote
BTW I got the Quafe Shotgun yesterday!
I hate Shotguns.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7131
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ambush, start of match. Enemy Minja and I have the same idea; we're both running the same route but in opposing directions. We round a crate and dang near smack into one another head-on. I see his knives. He sees mine. We're all alone ... Knife Fight! I hop backwards and give him the signal. He switches to his combat rifle. (!?) :: blurp blurp ::I wiggle around then signal him with another air-slash. Surely, just a panicked reaction on his part; probably an honest mistake. But this time I'm hugging the corner of the crate ... just in case ... :: blurp blurp blurp::So I continue 'round the crate, and of course he does too ... :: Boooooom! :: :: Boom-Boom! :: Walked right into my Core Locus nade and a volley of pocket rockets for good measure. Nice.
I only played one match last night and it was on my Cal Scout alt. Got Pocket Rocketted a few times by a certain ScoutGǪ but Kaeru honoured a Knife fight at the CRU, even if I lost it was good. Had me worried a second as the Flaylock got levelled at me, but it was a quick switch back to knives. Dissapointed I did not see a Breach in the Killfeed
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