BTW I got the Quafe Shotgun yesterday!

I hate Shotguns.

Nice.

I only played one match last night and it was on my Cal Scout alt.
Got Pocket Rocketted a few times by a certain ScoutGǪ but Kaeru honoured a Knife fight at the CRU, even if I lost it was good. Had me worried a second as the Flaylock got levelled at me, but it was a quick switch back to knives.
Dissapointed I did not see a Breach in the Killfeed

I remember this fight !! I have it recorded I believe. I recorded many matches last night in hopes of being able to share one today. Llast, you honestly won that engagement, I don't know why I got you in the end.

If you guys see me in game, please don't try to instigate a knife duel. A real knife duel happens just as it does in Duncan's video, before you even know there is another scout with knives, someone should be dead. Forcing it is artificial, and honestly, I want each person to go all out and use absolutely whatever they can to beat me down every time. Anything less is lack of respect.

With that said, I am disappointed with myself, I was going to flaylock your alt, Llast, but you were in a basic caldari scout.. with Nova Knives. Thinking this was an up and coming knifer I told myself: "Maybe just this once...". And put the flaylock away. Then we both missed, and I thought I was dead ! The outcome was very random.

I remember this fight !! I have it recorded I believe. I recorded many matches last night in hopes of being able to share one today. Llast, you honestly won that engagement, I don't know why I got you in the end.

If you guys see me in game, please don't try to instigate a knife duel. A real knife duel happens just as it does in Duncan's video, before you even know there is another scout with knives, someone should be dead. Forcing it is artificial, and honestly, I want each person to go all out and use absolutely whatever they can to beat me down every time. Anything less is lack of respect.

With that said, I am disappointed with myself, I was going to flaylock your alt, Llast, but you were in a basic caldari scout.. with Nova Knives. Thinking this was an up and coming knifer I told myself: "Maybe just this once...". And put the flaylock away. Then we both missed, and I thought I was dead ! The outcome was very random.

Oh I did try to beat you down
[...]

I will have to upload that part when I get home. For now....

THE FLAYLOCK, and why it's a stealth and confusion weapon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4MTbvACVo

30 second video, think about the person I am shooting at and where his hit markers are coming from. You will understand what I mean.
Be sure to set it to 720 !!

Basic Min Scout M-1 "Triblade"

Cpx Prec. Enhancer
Enh Shield Extender

ZN-28
Flaylock
Flux Grenades

Compact Nanohive (Thanks Shotty !)
ARN Cloak field

Cpx Profile Dampener
Cpx KinCat

26k ISK

BTW I got the Quafe Shotgun yesterday!

I hate Shotguns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSxv9oAScOA - 15 mins long, set it to 720

So, as promised, here is a match analysis video. Anyone please feel free to comment on any part, though I highly suggest watching it through. There are some nice moments in the second half.

I was going to upload a different one (the one with Llast's alt, ironically), but what Mollerz said got to me a bit. It's true that over analyzing is just another mistake. So I set out to record more matches and picked one that was a lot less text book and a lot more chaos. I hope it's entertaining enough to sit through.

I only use ONE suit for the whole match, the one I suggested earlier in the thread.
Part of recording this video was to show how far you can push this suit.

BTW I got the Quafe Shotgun yesterday!

I hate Shotguns.

Damn I wanted to see that battle from your perspectiveGǪ there was a couple times I was stalking you and had to break off because other reds spotted me.

I will be very critical of this video and try to nit pick as hard as I possibly can. I have the utmost respect for you and only wish to honor your wish for advice.

@1:35
In a more serious match, it would be best if you watch your teammate hack then to help him hack. Since this is a Pub, I would/ve done the same as you here.
I particularly like the path you chose to the ennemy, but you weren't sprinting soon enough ! More sprinting.
Very nice attempt at a leap-kill, obviously a little off mark, but that doesn't matter. You were already turning the camera sideways as you realized you were going to fly by. this is actually the best way to get people in the face. Keep it up !

@2:15, your first death.
You ran in front of a manned installation, knowing that it was manned. You entered his field of view but still charged around hoping he was tunnel visionning at his target. Notice how the Installation's gun twitches a little as you start crossing in front of it. Dead giveaway that he noticed you. By the time you swung around, he was off the installation and several paces back, waiting. This death shouldn't have happened.

@3:43
Good use of cover while completing a kill. You kill the Amarr scum as he hacks a CRU, while taking fire from an unknown location.
Quote:
If your cover is blown, but you are not in danger, seriously consider abandoning your target and looking for another. A milita player who knows you are there is 10x more dangerous than a proto amarr heavy with officer HMG.

It was seriously time to leave/keep moving. After getting your kill, you had already "won" that engagement. Turning back around the corner to face whatever was shooting you was a mistake. This death shouldn't have happened.

@4:56
Isolated target approaches a null cannon installtion. 99% chance he is going to try to hack it, but you move in before he does. It's not impossible that he noticed you, so let's say you are entertaining that 1% chance he isn't going to hack... you now notice the grenade fly in (which gives away his location, given the null cannon's design) and land in front of the console. He is fluxing the console for remotes. It now 10000000% clear he just wants to hack it and doesn't even know you are there. You probably should've backed off a bit to let him come hack, or gone around, outside the null cannon. Being in there without having line of sight on your target was not tactically sound.

@5:15
I really like this part because it's something we don't bring up often enough. It comes in 2 elements: ennemies will always take the path of least resistance and because of that you have to stay off the beaten path. You spot a target on the highground. You have many options at this point. You could move towards their red line, on the right, and go up the hill on that side, this area is never used by the ennemy except at the beginning of the match. You could climb the hill on the left, temporarily using the main road, this area can have heavy traffic, but your target is more interested in the letter you just hacked. You chose to go up the yellow ramp, possibly in a haste because he was getting away. This was probably a very good option as his sudden disappearance from your tacnet indicated he was moving away from the ramp.

@6:10
You counterhack. Try to wiggle as much as you can while hacking/counter hacking. The ennemy could be nearby, a sniper could be nearby, sometimes that little wiggle can make a bullet or two or five miss. It's free and easy on the DS3, doing fast circles with the left stick. Keep that in mind.

@6:35
Great kill. Your cover was blown, you were in immediate dangerous, you went for the face. Good man !! Staying cool calm and collected paid off. If FPS and controls were a bit better, I am sure you wouldn't even have missed that first strike. A level head made it so you didn't miss the second time though. Good job.

Soon after that, you fire at an assault, from a corner, and then wait for him. He is aware of you, remember that he is now more dangerous than a proto heavy with officer HMG. I was hoping you would leave completely or go around the back (which you did). Waiting around a corner to knife your pursuer is a great way to deal with someone you do not believe you would be able to escape otherwise. This guy had no chance of catching you, though. He would likely spend a solid 40~60 seconds searching that area for you, even if you left, effectively disabling him from the battle for that time. Circling all the way around was a sound strategy, but you probably shoudl've left the area completely instead, until he dropped his guard (unless you are absolutely sure to predict your target's move). It is exactly the type of 50/50 situation you don't want to be in, and you barely survived.

@7:46
You fire on a healthy undistracted target, with a big chunk of your own health missing.
You pay for it soon after. You come face to face with the amarr assault you just killed. He knew you were there, he is super dangerous because of that. You meet him face to face, and you have no choice but to engage. If only you had more health at the time. It also doesn't help that the game didn't take your sprint, can't do much about that.

You respawn in the same area. Avoid going for revenge for the sake of it. First of all because they are aware of you. This makes them most dangerous. Respect every person you kill. That respect keeps you from getting mad when you die, and makes you focus 110% on your next kill.

Use a cloak. I know we like to jab at each other and say cloaks are for the weak etc, etc.. but a cloak can allow you to do something very important as a scout. Observe. Observing is a big part of the battle. Pick your engagements.

I want to say, use a bit more sensitivity with your controller. It might be dentrimental at first, but it might also help you get a bit more finesse with your analog. I am not sure if this is good advice or not, but I felt like you couldn't turn as fast as you really wanted to sometimes. I use mouse and keyboard so perhaps my view of the situation is wrong.

I'm not a great min scout, I only offer these thoughts because you specifically asked and I can't help but admire a person who is eager to work on improvement. I hope you will be willing to do the same for me.

o7

@Kaeru

While there may be nuggets of hindsight in your extremely granular breakdown of Dunc's possible mistakes, the fluidity of combat in this game is mad opportunity to **** up. What is important, is how you fight.

Dunc is a solid minja, and I was particularly impressed with his ability to go frontal assault- which isnot easy. Lot so fminjas go stealth and he went all kin cat and in their faces.

**** ain't easy.. but it is fun. That's my style. My only criticism is that he relies too much on his AR. He should also sacrifice more of his shield to draw prey in and then knife them.

Basically, he's too nice.

If you over analyze too much you end up too rigid to deal with **** going wrong.

^



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTMKFlNjpnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukbHbItP-g

Oldie but Goodie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs

I will have to upload that part when I get home. For now....

THE FLAYLOCK, and why it's a stealth and confusion weapon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4MTbvACVo

30 second video, think about the person I am shooting at and where his hit markers are coming from. You will understand what I mean.
Be sure to set it to 720 !!

I got two quafe shorguns -_-, and a dren shotgun. So many shotguns and a milita SG.

I have a Dren Shotgun, I love it.

Thanks Mollerz. Kaeru gave me perfect feedback. I can take the criticism and use it to improve, so that's all good. Nitpicking is good and what I want to hear. I want every advantage, every nuance, every tiny consideration in my head and playing out as I run around in battle. I need this as my crutch - a lot of this is simply not obvious to me. For example, look at Ghost's gun-game 101 post - I learnt a lot from reading that, and it was clear there were many that simply couldn't fathom the idea that somebody might not realise the obvious.

I may die more at first as I replay this during the heat of battle and die due to too much thinking, but that's the only way for it to become second nature - no worries there :)

When you say I rely on my AR too much what do you mean? I actually didn't use it much in that game I felt. Also can you explain the drawing prey in by sacrificing shield bit?

Thank you both - this is invaluable. The rest of you - sorry for the spam and WATCH THE **** OUT FOR ME IN BATTLE MUA HA AH AHHA HAHAH AHAH

[... you guys go to art school or what :)?

you guys go to art school or what :)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSxv9oAScOA - 15 mins long, set it to 720

So, as promised, here is a match analysis video. Anyone please feel free to comment on any part, though I highly suggest watching it through. There are some nice moments in the second half.

I was going to upload a different one (the one with Llast's alt, ironically), but what Mollerz said got to me a bit. It's true that over analyzing is just another mistake. So I set out to record more matches and picked one that was a lot less text book and a lot more chaos. I hope it's entertaining enough to sit through.

I only use ONE suit for the whole match, the one I suggested earlier in the thread.
Part of recording this video was to show how far you can push this suit.

Actually yes.

13:24 Death by HeavyGǪ You had the fat kid just a quick slash and he was outGǪ the Logi still had to switch from Rep Tool. I know the standard is to take down the Logi, but when running Alpha and you already popped surprise sometimes the best choice is to Carve the Ham.

Couple general observations

You stand still a lot more than I do. Just something i noticed, seems to be working for you.

Sometimes your spawn choices seem counter intuitive to my style. Generally i don't spawn close to Objectives. I take a more scenic route.

You use the cloak in several points while sticking to the shadowed areasGǪ you are more visible in those places with the cloak on. You also seem to use the cloak a lot when in Hot Zones. This seems to be forcing you into waiting out the delay, while Reds are all around you. Less cloak in Hot Zones may up your survivability. Noticed more than a few times when you were not going to be noticed, but had to wait out the delay. Old School maneuversGǪ visible cover to cover stealth would likely net you higher successes in those instances. Hell you already do that stuff while you are cloakedGǪ.