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Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:18:00 - [3061] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117279 New Rifles: ETA not specified. Appears that the vanilla AR may have dodged a nerf. AV Nerfs: Substantial nerfs to AV Nades and Swarms. Why they focused on these, and not Forge Guns, I have no close. Suspecting that HAVs and DS will be proportionally nerfed. We'll see. They have rightly been given the least range though. I suspect the AR's users that want range will now shift to AScR or ACR
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 649	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:20:00 - [3062] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Shotgun hit detection's especially terrible today. Missing 50% of shots on target. Again. I really feel bad for all of us scouts. It's disgusting how the game is broken. We scouts are not what we could be. Like I said, I want to do what the description for a scout suit says I should do. Stealth, Speed We only picked a cool role to play and get shafted (waiting on a fix). Scouts United is the best, it's my alt corp, my guild, my 1950s barbershop, with a "speak easy" room below. When a fix arrives I'll show no mercy.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 287	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:23:00 - [3063] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117279 New Rifles: ETA not specified. Appears that the vanilla AR may have dodged a nerf. Dodged? That implies that there was one coming. Who here actually believes there was one coming? edit: oh wait there actuaslly is a range nerf . nice surprise
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 649	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:24:00 - [3064] - Quote Django Quik wrote: So just to confirm - range amps definitely do have stacking penalties. With 4 complex on my gal scout I definitely couldn't pick people up at ~90m. Really? Just great. This was going to be my go to suit. wtf . I hope that with s. penalties it would be enough to have an edge. Even if it's dull.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 649	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:27:00 - [3065] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: This thread is too big. As a fat boy I can say I have been raped by at least 1/2 the guys in the Tier 5/6 category... Lag in PC sucks hate you all, diaf Lol fat boy I feel cool when I knife a heavy.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 649	Posted - 2013.10.25 15:31:00 - [3066] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Can't silence laser beams But we can try lol.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 661	Posted - 2013.10.25 16:22:00 - [3067] - Quote I actually like the Combat rifle Stats. Stack shields and a regulator, and become a quick, rapid flanker. Get the flank, set up 80m away and proceed to tear into them. Retreat faster than they can advance
Rich o United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 83	Posted - 2013.10.25 16:46:00 - [3068] - Quote 40k+, here i am \o/
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 961	Posted - 2013.10.25 16:57:00 - [3069] - Quote So I been trying the aur proto min logi with : Creo sg 3x com shields 1 com dam Basic plate Com red/green Pg mod Adv quantum scanner Compact nano 2x remotes I originally was mad in June at the state of scouts an during a sp event I went basic min med frame to 3 an left it, tried it only a few times an started skilling the gallente scout to 3 an I tried the aur proto for that as well. I have had proto min scout, knives , sg an smg since uprising . I must say after trying out this logi a few weeks ago to use as a equipment dropper at supplie depots originally so I didn't have to rely on crap teammates it helped not having to use 6 scout fits to use links, an turned the tables on matches for me. Yesterday I said fukit an leveled it to 3 do I could use some aur protos. An my god scouts are really gimped in comparison . I always felt we had it bad with hit detection an various issues but the logi in the hands of a scout is fun as hell. Just the extra equipment an hack speed alone is something a scout should really have! I was in a Dom an the enemy had the letter an a fire fight was at the letter, so I switched to my hack back suit, scanned to see where everyone was, threw a nade, then threw a cooked nade , ran in with a hive, threw it by my team, switched to a remote , ran to the letter hacked it in like a second ( two kins/ two complex hack mods) dropped the remote ran back to the depot an switched to a dampened speed fit, all before anyone really could figure out how, an who hacked it, it was blue. Then I got 3 kills on the hack back attempt. Got 18 kills one death an 2800 wp. So I hope they fix this scout soon with some real fixes, because a scout should be able to do at least HALF of a logis abilities. Logi listed above has all that is listed plus the armor regen an hack speed, 600 HP an 8.21 sprint an like 400 end. I made another sg fit that runs 9.18 with armor! An has 300 shields an a dam mod an 3 equip. I made another with 8.31 speed 350 end an it can beat the 28 db scanner, still have fast hack speed, arm regen, remotes links, scanner, an hives. It's rediculous how much awesome crap you can stack on this suit an be a superior scout with a massive suitcase! Originally I thought of using the logi as one suit I could switch out to if I got the depot an I could spam enough equipment with two suits to have 5 nano hives out an 6 links an lock the depot for my team to push then switch to the scout an carry on. But after satisfying my curiosity of the suits potential by going to 3 an trying the proto it's unreal! I'm used to having 250 total HP , not 600! I mean gek an duv s can still wipe ya out in no time flat but it seems like walls don't snag you an getting around a corner actually works. Something is seriously wrong with the scout if their is this much of a disadvantage. From mho tryin both suits I would say scouts need at least: Option 1. 3% per scout level to hacking Extra low for min High for gallent ( highs for a damage which is why the logi does well, it doesn't lose HP that's detrimental for damage, logi can afford the slot loss , scout can't, an needs the greater ohk possibility Scanner vision should be built into the suit, and have a modual that is built into the weapons screen that has maybe a 3 second light up an a 20 second recharge basic suits pick up 45 db, adv 36, an proto scouts pick up 28 db. An a extra equipment ( gallente) an a 1 HP armor regen for minmatar scout( same as all min suits) I view gallente as stealth an min as a assassin . These 3 bonuses could be given as one out of the 3 or 2/3 either way people would say its op. But scouts are basically anti logis I I believe the built in scan is nessecary for destroying uplinks an reporting if this was put into play we won't need the extra equip as much. As we need a extra slot each an I think that an CPU pg changes would fix us. As far as min having HP an gallente too I think scouts should have this if slots aren't given. But their is no remotely equal comparison between suits but we should have at least HALF of a logis capabilities . Thanks for reading. OZ
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 961	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:05:00 - [3070] - Quote Made a few errors getting lost in the novel but I'm sure u can understand , thanks

Niuvo The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 651	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:07:00 - [3071] - Quote Good read Oz. I wish ccp understands and buffs us up.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 433	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:15:00 - [3072] - Quote Yeah Oz I am using a Lv3 Logi and the only real drawback is profile dampening which isnt that bad most of the time. When I switched back to my scout I felt like I was playing with one hand behind my back. A level 3 Logi easily outdoes my proto in usefulness though as just a killer my proto has the edge but also at 2-3 times the cost.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 664	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:48:00 - [3073] - Quote Niuvo wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Shotgun hit detection's especially terrible today. Missing 50% of shots on target. Again. I really feel bad for all of us scouts. It's disgusting how the game is broken. We scouts are not what we could be. Like I said, I want to do what the description for a scout suit says I should do. Stealth, Speed We only picked a cool role to play and get shafted (waiting on a fix). Scouts United is the best, it's my alt corp, my guild, my 1950s barbershop, with a "speak easy" room below. When a fix arrives I'll show no mercy. I'm sure the fix will be followed by a Nerf. Most high tier scouts are amazing even when broken. Can you imagine the carnage that will be unleashed when they fix us? Most are so used to hard mode, we will destroy on easy.
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 84	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:50:00 - [3074] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Niuvo wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Shotgun hit detection's especially terrible today. Missing 50% of shots on target. Again. I really feel bad for all of us scouts. It's disgusting how the game is broken. We scouts are not what we could be. Like I said, I want to do what the description for a scout suit says I should do. Stealth, Speed We only picked a cool role to play and get shafted (waiting on a fix). Scouts United is the best, it's my alt corp, my guild, my 1950s barbershop, with a "speak easy" room below. When a fix arrives I'll show no mercy. I'm sure the fix will be followed by a Nerf. Most high tier scouts are amazing even when broken. Can you imagine the carnage that will be unleashed when they fix us? Most are so used to hard mode, we will destroy on easy. F*** yes we will
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 664	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:52:00 - [3075] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Niuvo wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Shotgun hit detection's especially terrible today. Missing 50% of shots on target. Again. I really feel bad for all of us scouts. It's disgusting how the game is broken. We scouts are not what we could be. Like I said, I want to do what the description for a scout suit says I should do. Stealth, Speed We only picked a cool role to play and get shafted (waiting on a fix). Scouts United is the best, it's my alt corp, my guild, my 1950s barbershop, with a "speak easy" room below. When a fix arrives I'll show no mercy. I'm sure the fix will be followed by a Nerf. Most high tier scouts are amazing even when broken. Can you imagine the carnage that will be unleashed when they fix us? Most are so used to hard mode, we will destroy on easy. F*** yes we will Prepare your anus med frames EDIT: Holy Hell, anus isn't blocked
Kahn Zo Immortal Guides 21	Posted - 2013.10.25 17:57:00 - [3076] - Quote Just got my lvl 3 gal scout suit last night. Getting there. Seems that I rifle, sight a little quicker on my sniper than previous. I can run like a mofo thou, but still easy meat for an AR even at distance.
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 63	Posted - 2013.10.25 18:08:00 - [3077] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: Django Quik wrote: So just to confirm - range amps definitely do have stacking penalties. With 4 complex on my gal scout I definitely couldn't pick people up at ~90m. What's your precision level. The range doesn't matter if your precision isn't up to par. nono. I tested it yesterday too (and posted). It's sad but true. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1421964 Side comment to IgniteableAura .. daaang.. at least carry a pistol... flaylock, 0 power usage? Like i said range does not matter or show any difference unless you have your precision up. Cause i have no problem picking up people on my tacnet. Also there is no stacking penalties, but the highest range you can get is 50m.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1754	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:52:00 - [3078] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: (1) Like i said range does not matter or show any difference unless you have your precision up. (2) Also there is no stacking penalties, but the highest range you can get is 50m. 1. Pretty sure that precision is a fixed value. If your precision beats someone's profile, you'll pick him up once he's within your scan range. In other words, your precision doesn't dissipate extending outward from center. 2. I admit to not having followed or participated in testing on this subject. If I recall correctly, Void and Haerr concluded that range amps are in fact subject to stacking penalty. I believe that hydraSlav (creator of the Dust Fitting Tool) has come to the same conclusion. Please correct me if I'm wrong, citing test references as available. - Shotty
Llast 326 An Arkhos 270	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:06:00 - [3079] - Quote Kahn Zo wrote: Just got my lvl 3 gal scout suit last night. Getting there. Seems that I rifle, sight a little quicker on my sniper than previous. I can run like a mofo thou, but still easy meat for an AR even at distance. Good to see you are moving along As for the AR, it's the Chick Norris of Dust AR does not care about range AR does not care about your armour AR laughs at your ehp (Personal worst for being killed by an AR is 117m and i was at full health when i saw him )
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1638	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:36:00 - [3080] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: (1) Like i said range does not matter or show any difference unless you have your precision up. (2) Also there is no stacking penalties, but the highest range you can get is 50m. 1. Pretty sure that precision is a fixed value. If your precision beats someone's profile, you'll pick him up once he's within your scan range. In other words, your precision doesn't dissipate extending outward from center. 2. I admit to not having followed or participated in testing on this subject. If I recall correctly, Void and Haerr concluded that range amps are in fact subject to stacking penalty. I believe that hydraSlav (creator of the Dust Fitting Tool) has come to the same conclusion. Please correct me if I'm wrong, citing test references as available. - Shotty According to all available information, if your precision is higher than the enemy's profile, they should appear when inside your passive scan range. Scouts all have base scan precision of 45db, so should pick up all other suits that aren't using dampeners. When I put 4 complex range amps on my gallente proto scout the radar was decidedly patchy but definitely nothing appeared at the 90m range that should be possible if there are no stacking penalties. With stacking penalties enemies should appear for me at up to around 67m and though I couldn't measure for certain, that seemed to be able the distance on the radar that some people popped up but even then it was very patchy and unreliable.

Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 558	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:40:00 - [3081] - Quote Fixed one of the links I posted earlier Here That was with an ADV minni scout with a boundless assault MD
Amruk Jackal R 0 N 1 N 28	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:55:00 - [3082] - Quote CCP needs to code the jumping bs. It's getting EXTREMELY frustrating to see a scrub jump and all of a sudden none of my shotgun pellets hit the bastard.
Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 18	Posted - 2013.10.26 00:03:00 - [3083] - Quote Hey guys. Checking in again. K/d has gone up to 1.08 now and Ive for some reason added the plasma cannon to my scout with my pistols as my main...its just...so fun to shoot things with XD I feel like that girl from the matrix climbing the ladder with her rocket launcher during the invasion
Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 18	Posted - 2013.10.26 00:14:00 - [3084] - Quote Whoops double post. Ignore this!
Knight Soiaire P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M 2755	Posted - 2013.10.26 01:01:00 - [3085] - Quote I've deleted DUST. This game is not worth my time until CCP fix Scouts. At least when I come back in one year when they're finally buffed Scouts, I'll have a load of SP to play around with.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 295	Posted - 2013.10.26 02:34:00 - [3086] - Quote Be sure to keep am eye on your email for their shameless comeback offers...you might as well grab some freebies.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1759	Posted - 2013.10.26 03:28:00 - [3087] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: I've deleted DUST. This game is not worth my time until CCP fix Scouts. At least when I come back in one year when they're finally buffed Scouts, I'll have a load of SP to play around with. We'll keep you posted, Knight. o7
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 668	Posted - 2013.10.26 04:11:00 - [3088] - Quote OMFG Can't wait for Combat Rifle! LOOK AT THESE STATS 1200 RPM. That means that those bursts will be dealing 105 dmg in an instant (due to the insane speed, getting a hit would mean all three shots hit at nearly the same time), the ROF could use some help, but with a theoretical DPS of around 704 (almost 2x the dps of an AR) I assume it will be able to deal more DPS at a range than the AR, making it a valuable mid-long range weapon. Combine with SMG for minmatar winningness. My combat scout will be INSANE. I could actually help on long range maps! Then you use knives/SMG for cities! EDIT: Also, beware the modded controllers coming back. Unless they give it some decent kick, everyone from the TAC AR days will whip out the modded controller and proceed to spam that CR in CQC till the Kill pops up.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 563	Posted - 2013.10.26 04:54:00 - [3089] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: OMFG Can't wait for Combat Rifle! LOOK AT THESE STATS 1200 RPM. That means that those bursts will be dealing 105 dmg in an instant (due to the insane speed, getting a hit would mean all three shots hit at nearly the same time), the ROF could use some help, but with a theoretical DPS of around 704 (almost 2x the dps of an AR) I assume it will be able to deal more DPS at a range than the AR, making it a valuable mid-long range weapon. Combine with SMG for minmatar winningness. My combat scout will be INSANE. I could actually help on long range maps! Then you use knives/SMG for cities! EDIT: Also, beware the modded controllers coming back. Unless they give it some decent kick, everyone from the TAC AR days will whip out the modded controller and proceed to spam that CR in CQC till the Kill pops up. Dont know why people think it was modded controllers.... I can click that fast with a mouse or my gamepad
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 668	Posted - 2013.10.26 04:59:00 - [3090] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: OMFG Can't wait for Combat Rifle! LOOK AT THESE STATS 1200 RPM. That means that those bursts will be dealing 105 dmg in an instant (due to the insane speed, getting a hit would mean all three shots hit at nearly the same time), the ROF could use some help, but with a theoretical DPS of around 704 (almost 2x the dps of an AR) I assume it will be able to deal more DPS at a range than the AR, making it a valuable mid-long range weapon. Combine with SMG for minmatar winningness. My combat scout will be INSANE. I could actually help on long range maps! Then you use knives/SMG for cities! EDIT: Also, beware the modded controllers coming back. Unless they give it some decent kick, everyone from the TAC AR days will whip out the modded controller and proceed to spam that CR in CQC till the Kill pops up. Dont know why people think it was modded controllers.... I can click that fast with a mouse or my gamepad Some do though. Clicking 7 times in a second is really hard to do on a DS3. KB/M though? Lot easier to do.



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