Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.

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WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

i hope this is a joke

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

i hope this is a joke

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i hope this is a joke

yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......

nahh this **** is real dudes. If I have to pay2talk count me out

This isn't even pay 2 win. This is pay 2 even have a chance to win.

yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......

CS:GO for $12 is looking better and better.

From the description it looks like this is only for out of game voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.

if not this would be literally the worst thing ever

yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......

I have yet to hear anyone on comms.

well that doesnt have to mean anything, i'd rather test it myself then jump to conclusions

Who in their right mind would pay for this?

We need to hear a Dev's opinion on this.

i did and they dont work at all .

Or get a Dev's confirmation of removal. Wtf, who charges for voice chat in an FPS?

CCP

CCP

If CCP does this, Dust will fail.

Not a troll, serious opinion.

it's a sound opinion.

<[CCP]Nullabor> you get voice for free in battle
<[CCP]Nullabor> voice out of battle is going to be more for player corps and private channels which you need the UVT for

I'd like a link to this announcement please. I would also like a link to the petition saying "CCP ******* scrap that or count me out" - assuming this is accurate.

15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: you get voice for free in battle
15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: voice out of battle is going to be more for player corps and private channels which you need the UVT for

Nope, they're on the market, and I have yet to hear anyone speak in the 4 games I've been in.

Ive been using my mic, maybe alot of people don't know you have to push the left directional button to talk and release it when you're done.

lol CCP this is going to be the DUST version of the EVE monocle scandle

Ive been using my mic, maybe alot of people don't know you have to push the left directional button to talk and release it when you're done.

nobody do any beta testing in protest.

stay off the servers.

nobody do any beta testing in protest.

stay off the servers.

nobody do any beta testing in protest.

stay off the servers.

Has anyone thought that the isk equivalents may just be missing right now like the repair tools were

Ive been using my mic, maybe alot of people don't know you have to push the left directional button to talk and release it when you're done.

yes EVERY ONE BE STRONG AND CLOSE YOUR FREE BETA ACCOUNT ! AND SAY YOU WONT COME BACK UNTILL YOU HAVE IT YOUR WAY >!

I logged of a second ago. Broken KBM and paid voice, no thanks.

you knew kbm was going to be severely gimped.

15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: you get voice for free in battle
15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: voice out of battle is going to be more for player corps and private channels which you need the UVT for

Thats like saying the ISK equivalents of Skill Boosters aren't on the market right now - because they're never going to be.

Paying for voice is going to kill Dust.

What's going to happen is they will just migrate to TS3/Ventrilo servers for out of game communication, so CCP will fail to get revenue from this item. Worse, it will have a VERY negative effect on CCP, and further paint them as a company that's greedy for money and figuring out how to bleed its customers dry. They barely dodged a bullet with the Monocole scandal, and the release of the "Greed is Good" newsletter. To continue down this road will only bring all this back into light, and with an even worse effect than before.

what was the monocle scandal?

The $80 monocle allowed you to see your opponents better.

what was the monocle scandal?

Remove pay to talk and give the OPTION of push to talk. Some people prefer push to talk system. Personally I think it will be a pain to use push to talk while in combat.

Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.

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Aurum.

WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY?

I call this the first offical thread naught of dust 514

btw this is for out of battle areas such as local corp group ect ect.

must not have read it is ptt

nevermind i think i know what you were saying the option to turn off ptt

Ok! Here's how it goes.
Technically its a type of voice chat but if you read the description of the item it says what it does.
I've just been in a few matches talking up a storm with my fellow dusters and I haven't bought those things.
But what they enable you to do is basically talk to people who aren't even in the same game as you, they could be fighting on a totally different planet......and you can still talk.
that's what they are
'Universal voice transmitters' and 'wherever they may be' are the key words

Shitstorm coming.

People, be reasonable: (HAHAHAHHA)

Talking during fight: Free
Talking on the corp channel: Not sure about that, probably free.

Talking to people like a freaking cell phone using your vita and the neocom: A paid service.

Does this REALLY seems unreasonable for you ?

I wouldn-¦t pay, but charge a vita neocom voice chat is not unreasonable.

Loved the graphics, prefered the old voices, THE HELL HAPPEND TO MY DROPSHIPS. I used to pilot, now i suck completely.

Ok! Here's how it goes.
Technically its a type of voice chat but if you read the description of the item it says what it does.
I've just been in a few matches talking up a storm with my fellow dusters and I haven't bought those things.
But what they enable you to do is basically talk to people who aren't even in the same game as you, they could be fighting on a totally different planet......and you can still talk.
that's what they are
'Universal voice transmitters' and 'wherever they may be' are the key words

You guys realize ccp has to make money somehow right? They arent making a f2p game just for the hell of it and because they like you.

Ok! Here's how it goes.
Technically its a type of voice chat but if you read the description of the item it says what it does.
I've just been in a few matches talking up a storm with my fellow dusters and I haven't bought those things.
But what they enable you to do is basically talk to people who aren't even in the same game as you, they could be fighting on a totally different planet......and you can still talk.
that's what they are

Unreasonable? A company that talks about communication being the key to emergent gameplay wanting to charge you for the privilege of talking?

Yeah.

Stop the flamming dude.

They-¦re not making you pay to talk. You can talk just like before, on specific locatiosn relevant to the game (battle, perhaps corp chat). Was here before, still here now.

Now, on a DIFFERENT scenario, one that we perhaps didnt even IMAGINED before, they added a service and are charging for it. Something that wasnt here before. No loss from previous rights.

And you still think this is unreasonable?

The PR of the thing was a mess (seriously CCP, you should have learned by now your market mentality on surprises like this), but the funcionality is not absurd.

Ok! Here's how it goes.
Technically its a type of voice chat but if you read the description of the item it says what it does.
I've just been in a few matches talking up a storm with my fellow dusters and I haven't bought those things.
But what they enable you to do is basically talk to people who aren't even in the same game as you, they could be fighting on a totally different planet......and you can still talk.
that's what they are
'Universal voice transmitters' and 'wherever they may be' are the key words

Flame this: Restricting communications is bad for the game universe. Restricting the most convenient communication method of the medium is a death sentence. Do you think EVE would even exist if they charged real money for using text chat?

Your reading comprehension surpases mine in some way, for i can-¦t read that much into it.

I had something before, i still have it now.
Somehting news shows up, something new is being charged for.

No loss for anything i-¦ve been experiencing since entering the beta.

Really can-¦t see your point. Would you care to elaborate in an objective way ?

Who in their right mind would pay for this?

I will.

What thefuck do you people want?! The moon delivered on a silver platter for your selfish gluttonous consumption?

You know that voice comms have sucked hard up to this point but we all managed to play the game. And win

And it sounds like this option is for additional comms bandwidth - not squad comms (not sure haven't seen it yet)

So- yah - if it is not play to win then it is fair game. I will take my hard earned personal income and use it to gain any additional fun and/or advantage I can gain

And for the record: I would still pay Aurum for detailed info and reports about other corporations' assets, capabilities, contracts, etc

I will.

What thefuck do you people want?! The moon delivered on a silver platter for your selfish gluttonous consumption?

You know that voice comms have sucked hard up to this point but we all managed to play the game. And win

And it sounds like this option is for additional comms bandwidth - not squad comms (not sure haven't seen it yet)

So- yah - if it is not play to win then it is fair game. I will take my hard earned personal income and use it to gain any additional fun and/or advantage I can gain

And for the record: I would still pay Aurum for detailed info and reports about other corporations' assets, capabilities, contracts, etc

You don't play EVE do you?

Good for you. Those of us that don't suck on anything stuck in our face will use free alternatives, and be a lot more careful which of CCP's crazy schemes we'll spend our money on.

Forget what you think you know or have experienced with other games.

That is a box you're living in--get out of it. Try something new. The Aurum will be refunded and you don't have to use it for additional comms channels again.

I love that they are willing to try something new in the micro transaction market. Increased comms bandwidth: brilliant!

Yeah, and all this time they were talking about "true F2P". **** that. If I have to pay for voice chat, I'm uninstalling Dust.

Since 2007.

Well mate, if you-¦re not going to elaborate further, then there-¦s no point in talking. Not interested in a background check opening space for ad hominem.

Something news howed up, people are scared of changes, shitstorm is coming, the PR crew will sort this out (hahahhaha) and everyone will be mery in their ways.

And CCP, please stop feeding the trolls. You know this is the kind of thing that will be over simplified and cause embaracment for everyone, next step is the media coverage, than the questions "will Dust suceed after such a turmoil?" and then a zombie apocalypse shows up the world ends and the universe explodes, all because a little change.

*Sight*

pyramid

Good for you: stay with what you know and love Mag,cod,bf whatever. I won't judge you for not trying something new. Don't you try to squelch every attempt at innovation that doesn't look just like what you are familiar with

Condescending much?

How about this: people communicate in EVE by text because its a PC game and typing is the universal PC means of communication. On modern consoles voice chat is the universal means of communication.

Furthermore, consider this: CCP want DUST players to be as involved, and have as much impact on the shared universe, as EVE players.

No one is going to pay for this when they can get it free. This makes it more difficult for groups in DUST to organise. Increased difficulty means less people will bother. Less people bothering means less emergent gameplay for CCP to boast about and use as a selling point.

Most of the players in EVE and DUST agree that RMT should be limited to cosmetic and sidegrade items. Charging for communication is not only money-grubbing, bizarre, stupid, unnecessary, and annoying, it is also self defeating.

It seems a little incredulous that they'd expect people to pay for something that should already be included as a part of the game. People are concerned now in the beta because once this game goes live and the price hasn't been significantly reduced or even eliminated, people will not think well on a game that tries to charge people for comms, even if it is for "expanded" comms. It just gives off a bad vibe.

yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......

Pay nearly -ú4.00 a month just to talk to people on a game............ Are you fuk1n kidding CCPiss takers.... good luck with getting all your clan members to do that ****.....

I don't need any MORE companies overcharging me for talking to people who are far away.

Hello.

First, people don-¦t use text in EVE. (Except for spam in local, drawing genitalia and such). They use TS3 / Vent. No one in a serious corp uses text. Voice is the mean of communication. You can-¦t coordinate combats with text. EVE even provides a free com (EVE Voice) for people, but habit / someotherthings make them use external clients.

What is "this" that you mention? We only have a description of an item, in my head its for making PS VITAs using NEOCOM an expensive walkie talkie and paying for it. In yours, it-¦s a restriction on voice comms, removing features that are present as we write (just had a battle using the push to talk (yay \o/) buttons. No charge for it. Same thing as before.

In the future, we-¦ll probably use EVE Voice to communicate with the corp members (corporations can have both dust and eve players). It will probably be free, since it uses the client already in the server we are at ! (One server to rule them all, remember?)

I only see mass hysteria around here, but, that-¦s exactly what a shitstorm is. People manufacturing information out of their heads, assuming they-¦re truth, and complaining about speculations that they themselves created.

How about waiting for clarifications from devs before announcments of "ruined game" ?

Best regards

Again you assume to know what the VT does, but really we dont yet. So just stop acting like its the end of the world already.

That's a lot of assumption and wishful thinking there dude.

Exactly! Because there-¦s no information about the issue, and everyone is talking crazy!

Give them some time to adress the feature.

I'm NOT assuming sh!!t .................. we've used , tried. experimented...... what I said is CORRECT.

This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW."

Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players.

Y'know, or I can point out my concerns as they arise. Think I'll stick with that actually, and leave the 'expecting corporations to be cuddly happy BFFs' to apologists like yourself.

Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for.

Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing..

If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on.

Sure thing mate. In the mean time, i-¦ll continue to gladly have chat with my squad members using the free voice comms that Dust provides.

So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy.

Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups.

and then a zombie apocalypse shows up the world ends and the universe explodes, all because a little change.

*Sight*

What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game.

What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game.

You kids need to stay in school. Math & economics. Try it!

All you guys saying this is fine:

Enjoy being suckered out of your money.

T H I S I S B U L L S H I T ! ! !

Tell him if they want to have hope for their game, they better scrap that one. With massive clans coming in from other games, they're all going to leave when they realize they have to be in game to talk.

Well here is one of those things that CCP had to try, but I think we all agree (which might be a first) that this is absolutely the worst idea.

If you want to develop a community, you do not limit the amount of talking going on. You never, ever charge players to talk to each other when every other MMO, has this option for free.

Players spend more time out of battle hanging out with friends then they do playing. This is what builds a community and its players, this is how we make new friends, discuss tactics and ideas. By doing a Pay to Talk, in any shape or form you are ruining one of the best things about a MMO, the friendships you make in game. CCP what ever high paid, know it all exec told you this was a great way to make money, should be FIRED today, right now and never allowed back into any game company.

Like many others have said, you pay to talk, then you just killed this game for me, all of my friends and well everyone.

Do I think this will be taken out by the time the real game comes out, yes. But to even try this nonsense is beyond stupid IMO.

Im in-game now (finally) so lets see I can help clarify a bit ....


You have to enable VC on the channel. So if you want it on CORP, you have to highlight CORP in your chat menu, and select CORP - Activate voice. If you want if for your squad, slect SQUAD - Activate Voice. Even on your custom squad you have to do this. Then you can hear the VC (even outside of battle) while in your quarters.

PTT is turned on by default, you can go into the options and turn if off (for instance if you have a mute button already). No way to mute individuals, it's all or nothing. This new AUR chat option is... I don't know. The item description needs a better description.

The thing is the lords of the internet charge for voice comms somone has to foot the bill. In eve its built into the sub (ccp ate the bill on that one basically) however for dust 514 its unreasonable for a compnay that barelys gets 66 million a year to pay for voice coms for a potential million people.

Asking eve players to also hoof the bill may not be a good thing either as it would almsot require a price increase on subs.

Here is the deal,they are PLENTY of ways to charge for stuff in a f2p business model. But THIS its not one of them.

And for the ignuramous fanboy who is gonna crawl up saying
*nerdvoice* "but you dont have to pay for it if you dont want to"

Yes dickweed you could push your car around, that doesnt make the idea of a car with no engine less idiotic.

Difference is, you paid for the gas for your car.

You didn't pay for DUST, and voice chat bandwidth costs money especially on a large scale. Why should CCP pay lots of money so that you guys can talk about dicks and boobs and fart all day in your private channel?

Posting in yet another .. OMG I WANTS IT ALL FOR FREE .. thread

Remember kiddies, everything in Dust can be brought and sold on the market for ISK as well.

Difference is, you paid for the gas for your car.

You didn't pay for DUST, and voice chat bandwidth costs money especially on a large scale. Why should CCP pay lots of money so that you guys can talk about dicks and boobs and fart all day in your private channel?

You honestly don't get it so you?

EVERY OTHER GAME WITH TEAMWORK AND BETWEEN GAME PARTIES DOES THAT.
Play MAG. They don't cost you to talk in anclan lonby all day long if you want.

Same with any other teamsork/objective based game or mmo

Also you did afine job of dodging that, when he talks of pushing the car due to lack of engine you talk about buying gas... Clever. But meaningless and amorphous. Cannot be tied down to anything solid but allows a clever job of shadowing the fact that its a standard for all other games, and its not innovative t all, its money grubbing and stupid.

Posting in yet another .. OMG I WANTS IT ALL FOR FREE .. thread

Remember kiddies, everything in Dust can be brought and sold on the market for ISK as well.

MAG is only free if you stole it from the shop.

Try again.

1 question, how does it feel to have such a puntured schfinter?

Hello,

Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:

UVT Gives you:

- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.

UVT is NOT required for:

- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat

Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.

Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.

Hello,

Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:

UVT Gives you:

- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.

UVT is NOT required for:

- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat

Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.

Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.

I think it's fine.

Work for ccp do ya ? Or just have no friends ?

@ DEV Frame.

Sorry this is an excuse and a weak one at that.

Team chat........... Who cares, most of the time I don't want to talk to a load of random morons, or have to figure out how many I have to mute every game.

Squad chat........... Wow that huge 4man squad, well I have more than 3 friends and clan mates that I would like to group and play with. Even if we pay for this rip off chat so we can all talk we can't get in the same game let alone be on the same team.

I think instead of having an in house joke with MAG uniforms you have more important game breaking problems to worry about.

Hello,

Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:

UVT Gives you:

- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.

UVT is NOT required for:

- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat

Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.

Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.

12000 AURUM gold monocles is something to complain about, the above is just lame.

CCP has always said that we'll be paying for convenience, not for win. And the UVT system is of convenience and something that is completely understandable that they'd charge for.

Price perhaps twice as high as it should be though.

Do you know what I'm sick to the back teeth of all you know nothing about nothing, brown nosing ccp eve morons. and I say eve because anyone who knows the first thing about a console fps wouldn't be saying the stupid crap you're saying.

Do you know what I'm sick to the back teeth of all you know nothing about nothing, brown nosing ccp eve morons. and I say eve because anyone who knows the first thing about a console fps wouldn't be saying the stupid crap you're saying.

are you for real are you smokeing crack ? wtf rong with you people trying to defend this garbage ?

Sorry, everything isn't catered to you on a silver plate. Welcome to life.

are you for real are you smokeing crack ? wtf rong with you people trying to defend this garbage ?

Don't lecture me about life ******* I have 2 kids probably older than you.

Don't lecture me about life ******* I have 2 kids probably older than you.

i payed for the betta and this pay to talk crap i think that makes me a payin customer

Hello,

Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:

UVT Gives you:

- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.

UVT is NOT required for:

- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat

Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.

Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.

But those PRICES!
Have CCP not learned the lesson from the MonocleGate screw up?
Strike AT LEAST a zero off the ends of those prices, 900 AUR a month is just INSANE. At this rate, with all the AUR sinks I'm more or less forced into buying in order to be competitive in any way or form (aka PAY 2 WIN), I'm looking at having to kill two of my EVE accounts just to afford ONE Dust account!

again what are you mumbleing on about?
paranoid much are we?

Bad excuse really. CCP have previously had an inflated/unrealistic sense of cost, unless we scream and complain about it, the prises will increase instead.

Bad excuse really. CCP have previously had an inflated/unrealistic sense of cost, unless we scream and complain about it, the prises will increase instead.

I'm the author of a well known BitTorrent client and do virtualised networking as my day job.

Skype operates quite similar to BitTorrent's DHT and P2P transfers, and the main weakness is that the connections are directly between the clients. Thus your IP address will be easily known to everyone on your team, corp, alliance, etc, that are on any channel you're listening on.

All communication between DUST and EVE clients, even voice, goes through CCP's servers, so there's no practical way of getting this information.

Once they got your IP they can DDOS you.

And yes, I'm paranoid cause in EVE we learn to be.

i was using the text channel to try to communicate to my m8 icecreaml1ng that he was about be shot in the back he was a long time dead before i hit the enter button .lol verbal chat no advantage at all

tin foil hats all round then huh crazy mofo lol

Notice how they say voice chat in game is free. You sure do read well!

I read that, but I couldn't get the damned thing to work.