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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:50:00 -
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Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY?
*[beyond this point is material from later in the thread that I thought might be good to front load for people to see]*
A 30 day UVT costs 900 Aurum.
900 Aurum = $3.60US = 92,932,150.20 ISK
Lets say you have a mixed DUST/EVE alliance with 90 DUST Players.
81000 Aurum = $324US = 8,363,893,518.00 ISK
Your alliance has 3 options:
Pay $300+ to be able to communicate.
Pay 8 billion ISK + (likely a lot more as I don't see this market being high volume, so prices will be dictated by the sellers, subject to inflation and the whims of the market including limited availability and quantity)
Use 3rd party software (for comparisons sake: Ventrilo, Teamspeak and Mumble servers for $40US a month for 100 slots).
UVTs cost 7.5x as much as the alternatives.
The current conversion rate for $0.40US (cost per server slot) is about 100 Aurum.
If the 30 day UVT costs 100 Aurum it will the same price as the competition, with the added benefits of its integration into DUST and EVE.
I still think it unnecessarily fractures the player base and would be better for everyone if it was free and its costs subsidized by boosters and sidegrades, because its in everyone's best interests to make communication and free flow of information as open and accessible as possible, but I guess I could live with it as a compromise if I had to. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:51:00 -
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yeah, my question too. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:53:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
i hope this is a joke |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:55:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
i hope this is a joke
Nope, they're on the market, and I have yet to hear anyone speak in the 4 games I've been in. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:55:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL i hope this is a joke
nahh this **** is real dudes. If I have to pay2talk count me out |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:55:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL i hope this is a joke
I don't even.
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Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
79
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:55:00 -
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yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little....... |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
120
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:56:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG - I can't wait to get home - 2 more hours........ I gotta see this |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:58:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......
Who in their right mind would pay for this?
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.14 18:59:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL i hope this is a joke nahh this **** is real dudes. If I have to pay2talk count me out
This isn't even pay 2 win. This is pay 2 even have a chance to win.
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xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:00:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Universal Voice Transmitters are biomechanical implants that provide personal access to subspace routers, allowing users to communicate instantly with one another wherever they may be. The implants degrade over time and cease to function when fully absorbed by the user.
1-day
3-day
7-day
30-day
60
150
250
900
Aurum.
WTF am I looking at? Is voicechat pay2play? SERIOUSLY? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL i hope this is a joke nahh this **** is real dudes. If I have to pay2talk count me out This isn't even pay 2 win. This is pay 2 even have a chance to win.
CS:GO for $12 is looking better and better.
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:00:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......
I'd like a link to this announcement please. I would also like a link to the petition saying "CCP ******* scrap that or count me out" - assuming this is accurate. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:01:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:
CS:GO for $12 is looking better and better.
Yeah, and all this time they were talking about "true F2P". **** that. If I have to pay for voice chat, I'm uninstalling Dust. |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:02:00 -
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FACEPALM!! 
I can see paying for side-grades or gear that might have slightly better stats vs cpu requirements or something, but you can't be serious making us pay for voice comms.
I've never ever ever ever ever seen a game try to charge people to communicate with each other.
Do I also need to purchase a monocol to see my teammates??!!   |
mr merkzdem
38
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:02:00 -
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what were they thinking least skype is free i supose? |
jackbubu
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:04:00 -
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From the description it looks like this is only for out of battle voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.
if not this would be literally the worst thing ever
This is a rough translation from the german version (**** not being able to switch the language)
"The Universal Voice Transmitter are biological implants that allow the user personal access to the subspace-router, which allow him to talk with other users directly where ever in the galaxy they may be"
bolded the important parts |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:06:00 -
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jackbubu wrote:From the description it looks like this is only for out of game voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.
if not this would be literally the worst thing ever
I have yet to hear anyone on comms. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:07:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little.......
So basically you need them to create voice chat rooms outside of battle? |
aurius rholar
16
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:08:00 -
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I think that that is for chatting with anyone on the squad team or corp if so it might be useful if not CCP is going to lose some players |
Abner Kalen
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:09:00 -
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I'm at work and so I may be jumping to conclusions here. I can see a LOW rate for out-of-game comms paid service, however Eve-Gate has had Corp voice chat for a while.
If they do a paid service, there should be something tangible to download like a companion iOS/Android/Vita app that connects to the voice network. Still, these services are usually free or part of a larger service. They really need to get ahead of this before more people start to see it.
Give us an official statement CCP - let us know your thoughts. |
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jackbubu
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:09:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:jackbubu wrote:From the description it looks like this is only for out of game voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.
if not this would be literally the worst thing ever I have yet to hear anyone on comms.
well that doesnt have to mean anything, i'd rather test it myself then jump to conclusions |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:11:00 -
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Obviously this will end up being a popular items to buy for ISK on the player market, even so I think it's a very ballsy and foolish idea on CCP's part as its going to really agitate a lot of the player base. I'm arguably a CCP fanboy, and even I'm pretty worked up over this. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:13:00 -
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jackbubu wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:jackbubu wrote:From the description it looks like this is only for out of game voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.
if not this would be literally the worst thing ever I have yet to hear anyone on comms. well that doesnt have to mean anything, i'd rather test it myself then jump to conclusions
I don't think anyone has heard me either. When I looked in the chat list, the little voice bubble had a red "X" through it, and didn't turn green when I spoke. |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
243
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:13:00 -
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We need to hear a Dev's opinion on this. |
BAD FURRY
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
247
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:15:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little....... Who in their right mind would pay for this?
i did and they dont work at all . |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:15:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:We need to hear a Dev's opinion on this.
Or get a Dev's confirmation of removal. Wtf, who charges for voice chat in an FPS? |
BAD FURRY
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
247
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:15:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Umallon Macross wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:yes they are only for player made groups though not for squads. it was announced in the past that we would have to pay aurum for these but we were promised reasonable prices those seem a little....... Who in their right mind would pay for this? i did and they dont work at all .
by the way i pushed to talk as well. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:16:00 -
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I was excited about this patch. Now I can't fit my vehicles and CCP wants to charge us to talk. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:16:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:We need to hear a Dev's opinion on this. Or get a Dev's confirmation of removal. Wtf, who charges for voice chat in an FPS?
CCP |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:19:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:We need to hear a Dev's opinion on this. Or get a Dev's confirmation of removal. Wtf, who charges for voice chat in an FPS? CCP
Yeah, Pay 2 Talk, and severely gimped KBM. This patch rocks! |
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