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Umallon Macross wrote:

Aaron Atreides wrote:

Umallon Macross wrote:

Aaron Atreides wrote:

The Polish Hammer wrote:

This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW."

Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players.

Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for.

Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing..

If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on.

So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy.

Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups.

What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game.

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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 99	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:34:00 - [121] - Quote Aaron Atreides wrote: ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: Pay nearly -ú4.00 a month just to talk to people on a game............ Are you fuk1n kidding CCPiss takers.... good luck with getting all your clan members to do that ****..... Again you assume to know what the VT does, but really we dont yet. So just stop acting like its the end of the world already. I'm NOT assuming sh!!t .................. we've used , tried. experimented...... what I said is CORRECT.
Natu Nobilis 51	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:39:00 - [122] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: That's a lot of assumption and wishful thinking there dude. Exactly! Because there-¦s no information about the issue, and everyone is talking crazy! Give them some time to adress the feature.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:44:00 - [123] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: That's a lot of assumption and wishful thinking there dude. Exactly! Because there-¦s no information about the issue, and everyone is talking crazy! Give them some time to adress the feature. Y'know, or I can point out my concerns as they arise. Think I'll stick with that actually, and leave the 'expecting corporations to be cuddly happy BFFs' to apologists like yourself.
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:45:00 - [124] - Quote ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: Pay nearly -ú4.00 a month just to talk to people on a game............ Are you fuk1n kidding CCPiss takers.... good luck with getting all your clan members to do that ****..... Again you assume to know what the VT does, but really we dont yet. So just stop acting like its the end of the world already. I'm NOT assuming sh!!t .................. we've used , tried. experimented...... what I said is CORRECT. Wait wait- what? You have tested these UVT products in game? And you hate them? But are unwilling to say why? Or how you tested them? Fair enough, icecreamkingwarrior person. Thank you for the feedback You will understand that given the scope of data regarding your recent testing and findings the rest of us (speaking strictly for myself) will withhold judgment pending further review
Aaron Atreides 140	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:49:00 - [125] - Quote The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on.
Degren Cthulhu Bragian Order Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:49:00 - [126] - Quote i think the primary use for this will be to keep in touch with your REAL corp haha
Natu Nobilis 51	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:50:00 - [127] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: That's a lot of assumption and wishful thinking there dude. Exactly! Because there-¦s no information about the issue, and everyone is talking crazy! Give them some time to adress the feature. Y'know, or I can point out my concerns as they arise. Think I'll stick with that actually, and leave the 'expecting corporations to be cuddly happy BFFs' to apologists like yourself. Sure thing mate. In the mean time, i-¦ll continue to gladly have chat with my squad members using the free voice comms that Dust provides.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:51:00 - [128] - Quote Aaron Atreides wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on. So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:52:00 - [129] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: That's a lot of assumption and wishful thinking there dude. Exactly! Because there-¦s no information about the issue, and everyone is talking crazy! Give them some time to adress the feature. Y'know, or I can point out my concerns as they arise. Think I'll stick with that actually, and leave the 'expecting corporations to be cuddly happy BFFs' to apologists like yourself. Sure thing mate. In the mean time, i-¦ll continue to gladly have chat with my squad members using the free voice comms that Dust provides. And eventually the games will be interconnected enough that having to pay for comms will be a real hassle, and you'll wish you spoke out about it. Good luck with that.
Aaron Atreides 140	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:57:00 - [130] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on. So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy. Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups.

Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:59:00 - [131] - Quote Aaron Atreides wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on. So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy. Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups. What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game.
David Malcom Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2012.08.14 21:59:00 - [132] - Quote This is why I hate free to play games. **** like this.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:01:00 - [133] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: You don't play EVE do you? and then a zombie apocalypse shows up the world ends and the universe explodes, all because a little change. Sight no duuude!!! December 2012!! Nibooboo is on its waaaay!1
Pytonus BetaMax. 10	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:06:00 - [134] - Quote Boy, that escalated quickly
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:07:00 - [135] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on. So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy. Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups. What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game. See, there you go again: 'unnecessarily charge'. Says you! You think that ccp&sony get to host hundreds if not thousands of separate live voice conversations for free!? So- it's ok if they charge everyone $15/month whether you use a lot of voice comms or not. But it's wrong for them to charge a much smaller amount for just those that want to use comms when they want to use them You kids need to stay in school. Math & economics. Try it!
Aaron Atreides 140	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:07:00 - [136] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: Aaron Atreides wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: This whole thread makes my brain hurt. It's not pay to talk. There have been several people who have said that they are still able to chat like they used to. And really, how many times have you said to yourself, "You know what I need, I need to talk to someone on a different planet, RIGHT NOW." Everyone needs to cool their ****, this seems like a tool that will be needed by high ranking corp members and those who are cross communicating with EVE players. Ice cream princess or what ever the F@@@ your name is, see this post? No you didn't that and using it on the PS Vita are probably what they are used for. Again you assumed to know everything, but really you no nothing.. If I am a spy in the middle of a battle and don't want to chat with the corp I am spying on, then I use VT to talk to my real team to attack or bomb the planet I am on. So you are refuting his assumption with someone elses assumption? Classy. Yup I sure am, because this makes sense, while charging for Voice chat is not realistic. They have already stated corps will have chat channels, groups will have chat channels, so what does VT do but allow you to talk to players not in those groups. What it does is unnecessarily charge players for something that should be free, and force them to use third party software to play the game. We should get group chat, in game chat and corp chat all for FREE. What they are charging you 6.66 for is to use a VT that allows you to speak to other players as a spy (again my theory on this). But to do so it will cost $$ to do it. You don't have to use this, its not forced on you. Its there as an extra tool for the spies and backstabbing that is part of this universe.
CookieStein 32	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:17:00 - [137] - Quote Haven't read the whole thread cause I'm about to head out the door so sorry if it's already been posted...switch push to talk to off. That will give you in battle mics and out of battle mics while sitting in a squad and going through menus or what ever. Have no idea what this transmition thing is yet.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:21:00 - [138] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: You kids need to stay in school. Math & economics. Try it! Here's some economics for you: less people use a service if it costs money than if its free. If the service facilitates your business model ie. COMMUNICATIONS in an ONLINE GAME then it is usaully more cost effective to provide the service free and use other revenue streams to subsidize it. Its wrong for them to charge for communicating when communication is the WHOLE POINT. They SELL EVE and DUST on the premise of a single shard server where player interactions matter, and impeding communications of players is SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT. It is in CCP's best interests to streamline player communication make it quick, easy, and free, because doing so makes the games more appealing and interesting to the audience and INCREASES USER NUMBERS. Being frustrated by communications in a game about communicating IS A DEAL BREAKER that LOSES CUSTOMERS.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:21:00 - [139] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: All you guys saying this is fine: Enjoy being suckered out of your money. if CCP doesn't get my money then Smirnoff and Coors would.. i guess either way i'm getting my money took by someone
Corban Lahnder ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:35:00 - [140] - Quote The major problem here is not weather this is fair or not its that CCP never bothered to ask. They had a survey for Dust. All they had to do was add this question: If you had to pay for out of battle coms how much would you pay? A. Nothing B. 5$ for a week C. 2.50 for a week D. 1.00 for a week Or what ever values you wish you get the picture. Now you have established either a rough price point or even better weather or not to implement the feature at all. If 90% of the community says I wouldn't pay or I would pay little you now know that this is not your cash cow. You also know either you cant charge for this feature or if you do, you at the least will make your customers mad and they will play and they wont use it. Or they will get angry and leave because they view it as a paying mans advantage. Either way it gives you reason not to implement it. I'm personally mad not because of UVT but the fact that this whole **** storm could have been avoided. Ironic it happened on a day when on the EVE dust forum I said I hoped ccp wouldn't reinvent the wheel. Low and behold. I was going to a gaming convention with other eve players where we were going to be ready to sing the praises of dust and eve to new "converts" and instead I have to deal with the fall out of this mess. CCP get your house in order. Nowish.

Iceyburnz 316	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:38:00 - [141] - Quote CCP have got this very wrong. This paradigm is based on the premise that millions of people will play this game and love it and won't mind paying for voice chat services. This is actually an off putter into playing the game. Its another reason not to play. At what point would any sane person after asking about Dust 514 someone says "Oh yeah one thing you have to buy ingame currency to use the voice chat service" would anyone, ANYONE say "Oh that sounds awesome, sign me up" or even "Fair enough, I mean it is free to play" nobody because it is engrained in the psyche of gamers that voice chat comes with console games. They've got this wrong, so very wrong. Its not too late though, if we make enough noise we can turn it around.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:40:00 - [142] - Quote I would like to take the time to tell everyone to go back through these 8 pages and like everyone that hates this thank you
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:42:00 - [143] - Quote Im in-game now (finally) so lets see I can help clarify a bit .... You have to enable VC on the channel. So if you want it on CORP, you have to highlight CORP in your chat menu, and select CORP - Activate voice. If you want if for your squad, slect SQUAD - Activate Voice. Even on your custom squad you have to do this. Then you can hear the VC (even outside of battle) while in your quarters. PTT is turned on by default, you can go into the options and turn if off (for instance if you have a mute button already). No way to mute individuals, it's all or nothing. This new AUR chat option is... I don't know. The item description needs a better description.
Ad ski IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:45:00 - [144] - Quote Voice chat works in game. It is auto set to, Push to talk ON. You have to do all your settings again. Not sure if you can talk for free in the squad outside of a game.
Chihiro Itto 66	Posted - 2012.08.14 22:56:00 - [145] - Quote Do CCP push out these updates and then just go to bed? Guys, we need a clarification here. My instinct says this is for more high level communication... while I dislike the idea of paying, they have to charge for some things and those things are the parts of the game that aren't essential but are added extras. Like high-level play with EVE players. Or spying/agent-work. I'm actually extremely comfortable that prospective spies and agents might have to to pay hard cash to do so (although why they would actually need to...?). I'm not comfortable at all with charging for in-squad or in-corp voice chat, but I doubt that will be the case. If it is the case, it's a second decent reason to buy a Vita (Skype/Party chat and Neo-Com in one handy portable package), which might actually work out cheaper in the long run. Clarification from CCP please!
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:13:00 - [146] - Quote Chihiro, Good post! I concur with your conclusion, position and argument. People need to look closer at this new option before they throw everything out with the bath water
Dead's Lackey Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 43	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:23:00 - [147] - Quote T H I S I S B U L L S H I T ! ! !
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 23:46:00 - [148] - Quote Dead's Lackey wrote: T H I S I S B U L L S H I T ! ! ! Yup. People talk about map packs fracturing player bases. WTF do they think limiting who can talk to who will do?
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:04:00 - [149] - Quote time for a good old riot. Lets goto jita and shoot the towers...
Red at Math Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2012.08.15 00:26:00 - [150] - Quote All I've seen in this thread are people who don't seem to understand the mechanics yelling loudly about how upset they are. You have gained options with voice chat you did not have before. You can speak to your entire team while in a match. You can form a squad of 4 and talk to them, even while sitting around in your Merc Quarters. You need to purchase a UVT to speak to a custom channel that you create. There is Push To Talk enabled by default, turn it off if that bothers you. If you want to make a custom channel and address (using voice chat) a group of hundreds? Then you need a UVT. Or you could get a Vent server...which you will also pay for.



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