DUST Search - Universal Voice Transmittters

Longshot Ravenwood wrote:

MrZIONY wrote:

CCP Jian wrote:

Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's.

Yes but once the game goes live players who wants to be in serious corps/alliances will have to pay this or be of no use at all to their respective corp/alliance. Jian your reply also comes across as emotive, have we hit a nerve at CCP with this one especially after CCP had the same fiasco with EvE Voice and had to back down. The player are trying to tell you that we dont mind paying micro transactions for a whole host of things. Just not something that is vital to a corp/alliance based shooter where co-operation across planets and even entire sections of the EvEverse will be required.

Edit - Just to add CCP many of your players see this as nothing more than a money grab and putting "Free" in caps doesn't change that or the view that your game is quickly becoming pay to win.

Thank you CCP for not forcing me to have to listen to this guy over voice com unless I have the misfortune of joining a match with him. I appreciate anything you do to help keep his voice out of any room I'm in.

hen I attend a conference call at work I DON'T HAVE THE ENTIRE COMPANY ON A CALL. Whoever's in charge attends, or communicates via e-mail, then everyone else is advised in person of the game plan, or sent an e-mail. It stops the "he said she said" bull**** that interferes with professionalism.

You have a ****ing squad leader for a reason. If you're in a battlegroup he's the only one who needs to communicate with anyone else for strategy.

I'm already tired of all of this ****ing carebear tear-filled whiny **** . You aren't failing to get support because you didn't get the special com. You were just auto-muted when everyone heard you complaining about them when we dropped in for the match.

You've got a message system that lets you in-game e-mail people. Keyboard & mouse support that will allow you to type in a chat room. Voice coms for organization in battle. You're *****ing about not getting free voice coms for free private rooms to chat in. This isn't some new phone service through your PS3 so that you can chat up the girl you just saw in the hot scout suit last game. If you want her in your battle group you'll just have to send her a message & see if she replies back.

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Bob Deorum 15	Posted - 2012.08.16 18:27:00 - [331] - Quote ya i agree this is crazy to have to pay for voice comms.
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.08.16 18:59:00 - [332] - Quote I would like to ask a valid question. Is it possible CCP if you can ask US what we will pay for. i can honestly say i would pay to have my eve char imported to dust ( imported as in full body avatar) with all the sparkle.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.16 19:08:00 - [333] - Quote Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote: I would like to ask a valid question. Is it possible CCP if you can ask US what we will pay for. i can honestly say i would pay to have my eve char imported to dust ( imported as in full body avatar) with all the sparkle. LOL, CCP doesn't ask until Jita is on fire.
MrZIONY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2012.08.16 19:40:00 - [334] - Quote I'm definitely of the same opinion as you Orin, I like the idea of charging for custom channels etc, but keeping your corp/alliance chat free. Maybe a system where the UVT could be used at management level to expand the number of channels etc within the corp channels to allow for better organization. I would think alot of corp leaders would like to be able to setup private channels for different things like meetings and to divide the corp chat depending where you are in space.
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.08.16 20:23:00 - [335] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: You will still be able to talk in groups/clans/coprs outside of games when you are in your MQ of where ever not in match Further break down for emphasis: -Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game) -Text chat for all channels is completely FREE -In-game mail for all users is completely FREE -Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE) Thank you for needlessly reposting exactly what the Dev said.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.08.16 20:42:00 - [336] - Quote Xavier Hastings wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: You will still be able to talk in groups/clans/coprs outside of games when you are in your MQ of where ever not in match Further break down for emphasis: -Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game) -Text chat for all channels is completely FREE -In-game mail for all users is completely FREE -Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE) Thank you for needlessly reposting exactly what the Dev said. Some people only learn my repetition....
Lee Church II FridgeOre Mining Group The Butterfly Effect Alliance 3	Posted - 2012.08.16 21:55:00 - [337] - Quote Abner Kalen wrote: Do I also need to purchase a monocol to see my teammates??!! thats freaking awsome dude
Zat Earthshatter Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 304	Posted - 2012.08.16 22:00:00 - [338] - Quote For all the pyramids and opinions, i have two things to say : If it turns out OK : UVT-holding space piniatas, get the tear vial ready. If it is still unacceptable : Wait until release to do anything drastic. There will be more people then that can voice their opinion with you. In the meantime, make sure CCP makes it turn out OK, all the while keeping track of anything in the map that looks like a monument...
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2012.08.16 22:31:00 - [339] - Quote My $.02: I don't have a problem with UVT in theory, but they're going to have to be dirt cheap or no one will bother. If they make them cost next to nothing but unsellable for ISK, then people still have to pay in to use them while not feeling ripped off.
Corvus Ravensong Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency 179	Posted - 2012.08.17 01:28:00 - [340] - Quote Yea, we shouldn't have to pay extra to talk to some dude 600 LY away, after all my radio can do it for FREE!!!......... Oh wait, damn that's right, radio waves move at light speed - well I can't wait 1200 years for a response, so I guess I better pay the bill for my FTL coms rig...... Really guys, they are talking about letting you have voice chat with people in a completely different game - it's not a necessity (the close range coms are FREE after all), hell, if your corp is all that you should already have a callendar, oog e-mail mailing list, oog voice chat, and at least among your top brass, each other's cell phone #'s........

Chao Wolf Imperfects Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.08.17 02:48:00 - [341] - Quote Voice comm suggestion Free: all in battle comms(team & squad), corp main channel, alliance main channel, and once walking around areas is added local ( players in your general area) Pay: custom created channel (channels not tied to corp/alliance/battle/local), extra corp channels (the ability to added additional channels to corp allowing a rank/permission set to add extra channels that other players can use with out paying), extra alliance channels (same as extra corp channels)
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.08.17 03:35:00 - [342] - Quote MrZIONY wrote: CCP Jian wrote: Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's. Yes but once the game goes live players who wants to be in serious corps/alliances will have to pay this or be of no use at all to their respective corp/alliance. Jian your reply also comes across as emotive, have we hit a nerve at CCP with this one especially after CCP had the same fiasco with EvE Voice and had to back down. The player are trying to tell you that we dont mind paying micro transactions for a whole host of things. Just not something that is vital to a corp/alliance based shooter where co-operation across planets and even entire sections of the EvEverse will be required. Edit - Just to add CCP many of your players see this as nothing more than a money grab and putting "Free" in caps doesn't change that or the view that your game is quickly becoming pay to win. Thank you CCP for not forcing me to have to listen to this guy over voice com unless I have the misfortune of joining a match with him. I appreciate anything you do to help keep his voice out of any room I'm in. hen I attend a conference call at work I DON'T HAVE THE ENTIRE COMPANY ON A CALL. Whoever's in charge attends, or communicates via e-mail, then everyone else is advised in person of the game plan, or sent an e-mail. It stops the "he said she said" bull** that interferes with professionalism. You have a ing squad leader for a reason. If you're in a battlegroup he's the only one who needs to communicate with anyone else for strategy. I'm already tired of all of this ing carebear tear-filled whiny . You aren't failing to get support because you didn't get the special com. You were just auto-muted when everyone heard you complaining about them when we dropped in for the match. You've got a message system that lets you in-game e-mail people. Keyboard & mouse support that will allow you to type in a chat room. Voice coms for organization in battle. You're ***ing about not getting free voice coms for free private rooms to chat in. This isn't some new phone service through your PS3 so that you can chat up the girl you just saw in the hot scout suit last game. If you want her in your battle group you'll just have to send her a message & see if she replies back.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.17 03:41:00 - [343] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: MrZIONY wrote: CCP Jian wrote: Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's. Yes but once the game goes live players who wants to be in serious corps/alliances will have to pay this or be of no use at all to their respective corp/alliance. Jian your reply also comes across as emotive, have we hit a nerve at CCP with this one especially after CCP had the same fiasco with EvE Voice and had to back down. The player are trying to tell you that we dont mind paying micro transactions for a whole host of things. Just not something that is vital to a corp/alliance based shooter where co-operation across planets and even entire sections of the EvEverse will be required. Edit - Just to add CCP many of your players see this as nothing more than a money grab and putting "Free" in caps doesn't change that or the view that your game is quickly becoming pay to win. Thank you CCP for not forcing me to have to listen to this guy over voice com unless I have the misfortune of joining a match with him. I appreciate anything you do to help keep his voice out of any room I'm in. hen I attend a conference call at work I DON'T HAVE THE ENTIRE COMPANY ON A CALL. Whoever's in charge attends, or communicates via e-mail, then everyone else is advised in person of the game plan, or sent an e-mail. It stops the "he said she said" bull** that interferes with professionalism. You have a ing squad leader for a reason. If you're in a battlegroup he's the only one who needs to communicate with anyone else for strategy. I'm already tired of all of this ing carebear tear-filled whiny . You aren't failing to get support because you didn't get the special com. You were just auto-muted when everyone heard you complaining about them when we dropped in for the match. You've got a message system that lets you in-game e-mail people. Keyboard & mouse support that will allow you to type in a chat room. Voice coms for organization in battle. You're ***ing about not getting free voice coms for free private rooms to chat in. This isn't some new phone service through your PS3 so that you can chat up the girl you just saw in the hot scout suit last game. If you want her in your battle group you'll just have to send her a message & see if she replies back. So lets say your company's communication provider was charging more than 7.5x the going rate for its services, and these services only allowed you to communicate with people on the same service, and not any other networks. Would you find this acceptable too?
Corvus Ravensong Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency 179	Posted - 2012.08.17 03:52:00 - [344] - Quote Hmm, you're cellphone was through Verizon till your contract expired too huh? And in actuality, it's more like having a provider who charges through the nose for long distance but then gives you unlimited e-mails & text.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.17 04:15:00 - [345] - Quote Corvus Ravensong wrote: Hmm, you're cellphone was through Verizon till your contract expired too huh? And in actuality, it's more like having a provider who charges through the nose for long distance but then gives you unlimited e-mails & text. I'm in Australia. My provider had horrible coverage, and sold out to what is arguably the worst provider in the country.
MrZIONY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2012.08.17 10:12:00 - [346] - Quote Longshot U Mad Bro? I don't ask for free comms, just resonably priced ones. Read all my posts in the thread before your go nuclear dude. The only tears are yours
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 29	Posted - 2012.08.17 11:43:00 - [347] - Quote i have 10 m8s squads of 4 suck we have to pay to chat and try to group up in a game .if squads can group up team chat may be ok just have to see but in most games were squd are small you can join on a frend and get in but you should be able to group 4 squds up and chat free .pay to chat will kill this game for big clans and big clans =$$$$$
mr merkzdem 38	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:12:00 - [348] - Quote would have to agree with you statement there mate well said man+1
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.08.17 18:19:00 - [349] - Quote hey CCP_Jian, nice to see you down here. If audio chat when grouping with friends remains free and we get to create groups up to the max player cap a team can sustain in a battle then this is okay. Even though i think it 's still best to offer some audio channel the way mumble does : charging one guy willing to buy it (even if more expensive) and then letting him invite whoever he wants in it. it would work a lot better with Dust and corporation imo than asking every participants to pay a fee in order to get inside the channel.
Markus Barak Algintal Core Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.08.17 18:29:00 - [350] - Quote CCP really has one of two options. Leave the prices as they stand now and you will have very few people use an overpriced service with not so many options.... Or they lower the price GREATLY from where it is now.... LOTS of people use and and get others to use it cause... everyone else will be!!!!! Then you make mo money CCP!!!! Would you rather have 10 people paying 900 or 10000 people paying like 100.

SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.08.17 18:31:00 - [351] - Quote Do people think they need to buy a UVT to have comms in game? The UVT is for side comms out of game, not in game comms that you need. I personally see nothing wrong with charging for voice activation on the side comms for the game. It is only for unessential comms and it cuts down on wasted network resources. it is a good de-marketing idea. There are enough free alternatives that it is not a big deal. maybe they could adjust prices, but it is not a big issue.
CLONE 2774 Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 83	Posted - 2012.08.17 18:33:00 - [352] - Quote Oh God...The overpowered Aurum weapons i could deal with but this...Dear God
Sparten 269 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2012.08.17 19:18:00 - [353] - Quote I know in battle voice is free but really, do they really need to make it pay2talk outside of battles, people would be crazy to buy this since the majority of players will not need it. Plus there beings ways around it like things such as Skype, if I need to talk to a Guy out of battle I would just invite him to a pre-made squad, this just seems really impractical. Though this is just my opinion I take it a few feel the same.
Nomex Gallatin OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2012.08.17 20:05:00 - [354] - Quote Abner Kalen wrote: FACEPALM!! Do I also need to purchase a monocol to see my teammates??!! Awesome...
Cobalt Monkey Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2012.08.17 20:33:00 - [355] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello, Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free: UVT Gives you: - Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect. UVT is NOT required for: - Team voice chat - Squad voice chat Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time. Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. Make a game based around the importance of teamwork, then put a money block on being able to use it? Wow. Just...wow. Unacceptable.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.18 10:25:00 - [356] - Quote Cobalt Monkey wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello, Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free: UVT Gives you: - Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect. UVT is NOT required for: - Team voice chat - Squad voice chat Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time. Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. Make a game based around the importance of teamwork, then put a money block on being able to use it? Wow. Just...wow. Unacceptable. Pay wall around the whole reason for the game to exist? Check.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.08.18 10:27:00 - [357] - Quote why did you bump this back up i mean come on 18 pages what else is there to say
Atomic TBag Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.08.18 11:20:00 - [358] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: why did you bump this back up i mean come on 18 pages what else is there to say I'd like to suggest a feature of "pay to silence". I just browsed these pages and came to the conclusion not everyone needs to talk in game.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.18 11:21:00 - [359] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: why did you bump this back up i mean come on 18 pages what else is there to say There's plenty more to say until its addressed.
Galactus VI Algintal Core Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2012.08.18 11:49:00 - [360] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello, Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free: UVT Gives you: - Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect. UVT is NOT required for: - Team voice chat - Squad voice chat Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time. Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. You basically just put a finger up the ass of all the players.... Wanna talk to more than 4 players.... give us money!



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