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Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:19:00 -
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If CCP does this, Dust will fail.
Not a troll, serious opinion. |
Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:37:00 -
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Paying for voice is going to kill Dust.
What's going to happen is they will just migrate to TS3/Ventrilo servers for out of game communication, so CCP will fail to get revenue from this item. Worse, it will have a VERY negative effect on CCP, and further paint them as a company that's greedy for money and figuring out how to bleed its customers dry. They barely dodged a bullet with the Monocole scandal, and the release of the "Greed is Good" newsletter. To continue down this road will only bring all this back into light, and with an even worse effect than before. |
Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
56
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:44:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Iso Shalim wrote:Paying for voice is going to kill Dust.
What's going to happen is they will just migrate to TS3/Ventrilo servers for out of game communication, so CCP will fail to get revenue from this item. Worse, it will have a VERY negative effect on CCP, and further paint them as a company that's greedy for money and figuring out how to bleed its customers dry. They barely dodged a bullet with the Monocole scandal, and the release of the "Greed is Good" newsletter. To continue down this road will only bring all this back into light, and with an even worse effect than before. what was the monocle scandal?
This was when Aurum was first released in Eve. To buy a monocole cost something in the realm of $100 USD (I might be off on the number, but I know it was high). Someone leaked out an internal mail from Hilmar, the CEO of CCP that basically had him saying "**** off" to people that were complaining about it. This lead to the Jita Riots, the leak of an internal CCP newsletter, and changes done by CCP, most of which have involved ignoring the Aurum and NEX storefront stuff.
Short version, for a better one with details, just google "Monocolegate". |
Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
56
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:49:00 -
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Here's a good overview for what I was talking about. Forgot a few more important details.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/26/eve-evolved-the-day-that-eve-online-died/
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Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
56
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:41:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
Question: why are you charging us for a service that doesn't cost you any money whatsoever for bandwidth? It's covered by Sony, so why the microtransaction for a feature that is free in other online games?
Second, I don't know if you were on the EVE team when the Eve Voice stuff hit the fan, but the same thing wound up happening, and now it's free there, but ONLY after a big row about it that didn't make CCP look too good. Perhaps given the feedback/noise in this thread so far, it should be an issue that's reconsidered. I promise you that a lot of people will get to the point where they realize paragraph #1 is true, and they're going to quit in droves. That, or just migrate to a 3rd party tool.
What'll wind up happening either way is that noone will use the UVT's, and it will only further add onto CCP's rep as a company trying to nickel and dime their customers. Worst case scenario you'll lose Dust players, which will wind up effecting Eve as well. I really don't care to see Eve OR CCP tank, but it's something you guys are flirting with by doing this. |
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