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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:00:00 -
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bigger groups would solve most of my beefs!!! |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:01:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:i was using the text channel to try to communicate to my m8 icecreaml1ng that he was about be shot in the back he was a long time dead before i hit the enter button .lol verbal chat no advantage at all Notice how they say voice chat in game is free. You sure do read well! I read that, but I couldn't get the damned thing to work.
There's a PTT button. Left D-Pad. You can turn it off in the options as well. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:01:00 -
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Ok... so the effect on the game BEFORE the cross-game interaction is about zero during matches.
How about once a co-ordinated assault between both space and ground forces is necessary to victory??
Do remember a PS3 user can't access Ventrillo/TS as effectively as an EVE player.
Even though it's not as tangible as a Forge Gun, it is a tactical advantage to those who cough up AUR, or have the resources to trade for it.
And in New Eden, a tactical advantage is the most dangerous advantage.
i'll keep my monocle-less eyes on this one... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:20:00 -
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i can see how someone from the outside would think this is silly, but for those who have played EVE this is a reality. There are crazy people on EVE. You dont come across this stuff when all you do is start match, shoot, end match, start match again on diff map. shoot, end match, etc. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:35:00 -
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beating your chest at CCP will get you nowhere. Good night. |
DichromaticB3C
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:38:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:jackbubu wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:jackbubu wrote:From the description it looks like this is only for out of game voice coms, but i have yet to try out if "in battle" voice works unrestricted.
if not this would be literally the worst thing ever I have yet to hear anyone on comms. well that doesnt have to mean anything, i'd rather test it myself then jump to conclusions I don't think anyone has heard me either. When I looked in the chat list, the little voice bubble had a red "X" through it, and didn't turn green when I spoke.
Might be because push to talk was enabled by default in the update.
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CCP Frame
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
351
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:44:00 -
[217] - Quote
If you have any issues regarding post deletion send us an email over at [email protected] and we will look into it. Otherwise please refrain from discussing post deletion as they most likely violated our forum rules that can be found right here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18206&find=unread
Keep it civil, guys. |
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ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:44:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
if we're going to pay for chat make a premium service and with this service you get some free tanks, weapons and mods every month plus talking in the clan? |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
29
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:56:00 -
[219] - Quote
so my civility is in question ?  |
Primus Core
Brimstone Tactical
Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2012.08.15 09:58:00 -
[220] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
Everyone's just going to use teamspeak or some other form of voice comms. I mean, both have mobile phone apps as well, so it's not like people won't use them because they're not near the computer.
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WARR1OR OF WARRIORS
11
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:04:00 -
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They sure do have big brooms in Iceland... Wink wink.  |
GoatRoper2100
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:04:00 -
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Okay, this addition is kicking a hornet nest. First off the prices are ridiculous but subject to change so hey. The problem is, reasonable or not, this will immediately spark people to not bother picking up dust or otherwise cause people who were giving it a try to say f--- that ill play something else. It does not matter how reasonable the price is on this, as people will only see the following; "You have to pay to voice chat? WTF?!" Misunderstandings of the intended system immediately will escalate. Consider the mob mentality of the masses. You can respond till you are blue in the face about "well we dont need those kind of people on dust!" but the issue is if they aren't playing, they aren't paying for aur for those shiny guns you keep killing them with, and ccp looses money overall. Its a loose loose. Down the line once rumors fly it will go to "if they are charging for this, what else are they going to nickel and dime me for?" I understand that voice servers get expensive. This can be done, but CCP is going to need to be very careful about how this is explained and presented, presentation is everything. |
WARR1OR OF WARRIORS
11
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:14:00 -
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[quote=Rasatsu][quote=ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS]@ DEV Frame.
Sorry this is an excuse and a weak one at that.
Team chat........... Who cares, most of the time I don't want to talk to a load of random morons, or have to figure out how many I have to mute every game.
Squad chat........... Wow that huge 4man squad, well I have more than 3 friends and clan mates that I would like to group and play with. Even if we pay for this rip off chat so we can all talk we can't get in the same game let alone be on the same team.
I think instead of having an in house joke with MAG uniforms you have more important game breaking problems to worry about.
Truth... How is a four man squad supposed to accomplish anything. ? |
mr merkzdem
38
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:16:00 -
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WARR1OR OF WARRIORS wrote:[quote=Rasatsu][quote=ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS]@ DEV Frame.
Sorry this is an excuse and a weak one at that.
Team chat........... Who cares, most of the time I don't want to talk to a load of random morons, or have to figure out how many I have to mute every game.
Squad chat........... Wow that huge 4man squad, well I have more than 3 friends and clan mates that I would like to group and play with. Even if we pay for this rip off chat so we can all talk we can't get in the same game let alone be on the same team.
I think instead of having an in house joke with MAG uniforms you have more important game breaking problems to worry about.
Truth... How is a four man squad supposed to accomplish anything. ?
this+1 |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
29
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:20:00 -
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GoatRoper2100 wrote:Okay, this addition is kicking a hornet nest. First off the prices are ridiculous but subject to change so hey. The problem is, reasonable or not, this will immediately spark people to not bother picking up dust or otherwise cause people who were giving it a try to say f--- that ill play something else. It does not matter how reasonable the price is on this, as people will only see the following; "You have to pay to voice chat? WTF?!" Misunderstandings of the intended system immediately will escalate. Consider the mob mentality of the masses. You can respond till you are blue in the face about "well we dont need those kind of people on dust!" but the issue is if they aren't playing, they aren't paying for aur for those shiny guns you keep killing them with, and ccp looses money overall. Its a loose loose. Though they may make a quick buck now, down the line once rumors fly it will go to "if they are charging for this, what else are they going to nickel and dime me for?" I understand that voice servers get expensive. This can be done, but CCP is going to need to be very careful about how this is explained and presented, presentation is everything.
if the squads were bigger this would not even have come up clans need to group and communicate freely the yvt good for leaders of large groops ie more than one or two squads who can GROUP TOGETHER!!! |
RPGio
BetaMax.
34
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:35:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
As in EVE Users will use 3rd party free voice comms ...
... corp voice chat should be free! The rest i can live with.
Will the UVTs be tradeble in the ISK market ? (Buy for Aur, sell for isk). If so, it's okay too. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.08.15 10:44:00 -
[227] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
At least the matter of what the UVT is for has been clarified.
I think we gotta look at this from a rational perspective...
Although a little inconvenient, the "free version" of the game won't be unplayable. I think that as long as the full use of all of the features costs no more than the monthly cost of an EVE subscription, then there's little wrong with the method that CCP have adopted (I must stress that I'm not including the purchase of premium weapons and/ or skill/ SP boosters).
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WARR1OR OF WARRIORS
11
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:03:00 -
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@ zerlathon.
Yes the free game will not be ''unplayable '' I think most people want a little more than '' it's not unplayable '' .
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Darkz azurr
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:33:00 -
[229] - Quote
so, how's grouping with friends work ? i add a friend to a squad i guess while in my merc quarters ...then what ? , we sit in silence as i try to read his mind what map we should do, what pve mission we should choose etc ?
edit: CCP Jian: To be clear: Voice is FREE for Teams and Squads.
:D |
William HBonney
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
318
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:35:00 -
[230] - Quote
People will find a way to chat for free...ventrillo, teamspeak, clans love working together and I think this is where a problem comes in. Currently we see the grouping of 4 people...I am sure corp battles will be different, but 4 people is a bit slim, but still a beta, so we will see.
A few people will pay for this voice chat, most will ignore it and use free DL programs, some will see it and not want to play the game thinking CCP is a money grubbing company. |
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Ghural
The Southern Legion
63
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Posted - 2012.08.15 11:51:00 -
[231] - Quote
Dear CCP.
Learn to communicate clearly and accurately. You should have learned this by now.
Geez |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:20:00 -
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WARR1OR OF WARRIORS wrote:@ zerlathon.
Yes the free game will not be ''unplayable '' I think most people want a little more than '' it's not unplayable '' .
I can get where you're coming from, but at the end of the day CCP have provided you with what they are legally obliged to provide you with in terms of a "Free Game". It's not as if they are eliminating the possibility of communicating with your Corporation, they are merely making the primary (and most convenient way) to communicate accessible via an optional item.
There are alternative ways around it, and when Player Trading is introduced into the game, I'm sure that there will be people whom will be selling them for ISK. |
woess
Kanalanal
23
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:22:00 -
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talking with guys on skype or ts on my phone while playing... lol pay for ingame voice... |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:24:00 -
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this sucks |
Iceyburnz
316
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:25:00 -
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I don't know why CCP thought this wouldn't be misinterpreted by the community.
Everyone is going to circumvent it in the situations that it's required and think a little worse of CCP as a result.
What where you thinking CCP, really? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:25:00 -
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Imma wait on see on this one for now |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:27:00 -
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[quote=CCP Frame]Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.[/quote]
See, this is an interesting one. I can understand such an implant as a description for allowing such communication, because it fits with the backstory, but why the heck does this need to be an MT item, and at this level of price? I realize this isn't a subscription based game like EVE Online, but the ability to voice chat with members of your own corporation is only available if you pay for it? I just don't get it. I mean, I get that providing communication infrastructure costs both time and money, but at the very least these should either drop to a fourth the cost they have right now, at the very least, or make them ISK items.
Not gonna lie, this is crap. |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
104
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:27:00 -
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I can understand UVT for custom channels and communication with eve players, but corporation chat really should be free. And either way it needs to be cheaper. |
MrZIONY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:11:00 -
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Just read this and I have to say if CCP are going to charge us to be able to speak to friends out of game when voice chat has always been free in EvE Online I'm out.
Who ever thought of this new money grab should be sacked! |
Alshadow
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:21:00 -
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i have a usb key board so i dont give a damn |
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