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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:10:00 -
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I do not see a problem with it in principle, I do think the prices could come down a bit...what is it like $4.50 for a month worth of talk...
If I am in a game and I want to talk to someone else who is in a different game...can't do that on other PS3 FPS... |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:23:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST
- Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat
- Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere.
Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
I am good with this but I do think the price needs to be cut in half and/or carry over for all three of your characters.
Furthermore, I am good with the 4 man squad. It is enough so I can play with some friendly faces but not too large where I and my random team will get crushed by a group of 12 guys grouped up together every time. It is still a beta and I for one vote too keep the squads limited until the full release of the game where it will be encouraged to group up and corp up and thus I believe the grouping mechanism will be quite a bit larger.
Another side note, no one paid for the beta and CCP has no obligation to you. Even if you paid for the merc pack, you A) paid for it voluntarily and B) it included a lot of items for people in the beta and if you happened to not be in the beta, than you got the items and access to the beta. If you bought the merc pack, you paid money to test a product/service...not receive a product/service.
If you can not handle the fact that this is a beta and you are testing out functions of the game than I suggest you spend your time elsewhere. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:50:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:It sucks and thats all there is too it. All the nerd fanboys slithering around tryig to say "well its optional" STFU
One even said "Hey they are just making the easiest and most accessible form of corp communication optional"
Hey dimwit, thats the dumbest defense I ever heard!
Truth is, there are only a few good options here.
1. Get rid of UVTs entirely
2. Make squad sizes 6, and enable full teams ro group up and deploy (my favorite, STFU carebears who say it would be OP, go find some friends)
3. Make UVTs waaaaaaayyyyyy less money
4. Make UVTs only to use as large corp broadcasts or alliance meetings with more than multiple platoons of players.
2. It is a beta, i would support this in the full release of the game
3. Agreed
4. Agree as well
(Side note, your post would be more meaning full without using words/phrases like STFU or hey dimwit...just an FYI) |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:09:00 -
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people can still get in groups of 2 - 12/16/24 once the game is released and talk for free (just like in a lot of other FPS). It is my understanding that UVT is for a much larger communication tool >50 >100 >250 (who are in a variety of different places both in and out of game) as well as a way to communicate with EVE players directly. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 14:36:00 -
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CCP Jian wrote:Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's.
@ CCP Jian Thumbs Up, thank you.
@Everyone else who does not understand that you will get at a minimum the same voice/chat options as every other game on the market and likely more for FREE. SMH. What you are paying for is an add on, an extra feature in game. The only thing that needs to change is the price point, which needs to come down at least by half.
Further break down for emphasis:
-Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game)
-Text chat for all channels is completely FREE
-In-game mail for all users is completely FREE
-Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE)
-And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's (This is CCP being flexible and increasing the value of UVT's) |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 14:57:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:
CCP Jian thats nice and all, but how can CCP justify charging 7.5x the going rate for VOIP?
Most agree this price needs to come down, hopefully we can shift the argument to --- "What is a more appropriate price for the UVT's" |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 15:19:00 -
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MrZIONY wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:@Everyone else who does not understand that you will get at a minimum the same voice/chat options as every other game on the market and likely more for FREE. SMH. What you are paying for is an add on, an extra feature in game. The only thing that needs to change is the price point, which needs to come down at least by half. I would probably say the price needs to come down 75% to be competitive with TS/Mumble/Vent. You describe the feature as an extra, that maybe so compared to other PS3 games but it doesn't change the fact that for corps to function across several sectors of the eve universe effectively will require comms. Yes require not "it would be nice to be able to". Although a minimum of 50% reduction of price would probably get a few of us off our high horses and accept it.
Agreed, if you want a deeper experience, expect to pay a little $ into something that you spent $0.00 to download.
Free to download and shoot people in the face...not free to get all the features you ever wanted in a FPS/MMO game
And I agree with you, a 75% reduction would be nice and at a minimum, half. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 16:06:00 -
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StormForce64 wrote:MrZIONY wrote:CCP Jian wrote:Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's. Yes but once the game goes live players who wants to be in serious corps/alliances will have to pay this or be of no use at all to their respective corp/alliance. Jian your reply also comes across as emotive, have we hit a nerve at CCP with this one especially after CCP had the same fiasco with EvE Voice and had to back down. The player are trying to tell you that we dont mind paying micro transactions for a whole host of things. Just not something that is vital to a corp/alliance based shooter where co-operation across planets and even entire sections of the EvEverse will be required. Edit - Just to add CCP many of your players see this as nothing more than a money grab and putting "Free" in caps doesn't change that or the view that your game is quickly becoming pay to win. I agree 100% The Corp/Alliance feature attracted me to this game. FPS are simply way better when playing in groups that can communicate easily before getting into a game. The microtransactions alone amount to death by a thousand paper cuts. Paying to talk to more than your immediate squad or team in a particular game goes over board.
You will still be able to talk in groups/clans/coprs outside of games when you are in your MQ of where ever not in match
Further break down for emphasis:
-Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game)
-Text chat for all channels is completely FREE
-In-game mail for all users is completely FREE
-Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE)
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 17:08:00 -
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Umallon Macross wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:StormForce64 wrote:MrZIONY wrote:CCP Jian wrote:Reminding again: there is completely FREE Team and Squad voice chat, completely FREE text chat for all channels, completely FREE in-game mail for all users - everything other console shooters have and more, for FREE... And, yes, of course, we are looking into additional options, offers, features, etc for UVT's. Yes but once the game goes live players who wants to be in serious corps/alliances will have to pay this or be of no use at all to their respective corp/alliance. Jian your reply also comes across as emotive, have we hit a nerve at CCP with this one especially after CCP had the same fiasco with EvE Voice and had to back down. The player are trying to tell you that we dont mind paying micro transactions for a whole host of things. Just not something that is vital to a corp/alliance based shooter where co-operation across planets and even entire sections of the EvEverse will be required. Edit - Just to add CCP many of your players see this as nothing more than a money grab and putting "Free" in caps doesn't change that or the view that your game is quickly becoming pay to win. I agree 100% The Corp/Alliance feature attracted me to this game. FPS are simply way better when playing in groups that can communicate easily before getting into a game. The microtransactions alone amount to death by a thousand paper cuts. Paying to talk to more than your immediate squad or team in a particular game goes over board. You will still be able to talk in groups/clans/coprs outside of games when you are in your MQ of where ever not in match Further break down for emphasis: -Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game) -Text chat for all channels is completely FREE -In-game mail for all users is completely FREE -Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE) I like how CCP says: 'We are something amazing above and beyond other shooters!' and then 'But you get everything other shooters have for FREE!' If CCP's plan is to charge a premium for what makes this game different from other console shooters, then they are punishing those who want to see this game live up to its vision, INCLUDING THEMSELVES. How about this CCP: alter David Reid's ad nauseum propaganda spiel to 'Dust is everything you are used to seeing from online console shooters, and if you pay more you can have this vast experience beyond that!' 'You've heard these stories about assassinations and bank heists in EVE Online, and now console players can be a part of that as long as they cough up the $3.60 a month 'being allowed to talk to people' cover charge.'
They should say that if they are charging $60 for their game and then charging $3.60 a month for things that make their game different from other console shooters. But they are not charging $60 for their game... |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.16 20:42:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:
You will still be able to talk in groups/clans/coprs outside of games when you are in your MQ of where ever not in match
Further break down for emphasis:
-Team and Squad voice chat is completely FREE (Not sure about the Team aspect but squad chat is both in and OUT of game)
-Text chat for all channels is completely FREE
-In-game mail for all users is completely FREE
-Everything other console shooters is completely FREE (If you were able to communicate in other games and operate/be active in your corps/clans, you will have the same resources in this game completely FREE)
Thank you for needlessly reposting exactly what the Dev said.
Some people only learn my repetition.... |
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