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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:44:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Liu Kaizong wrote:15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: you get voice for free in battle 15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: voice out of battle is going to be more for player corps and private channels which you need the UVT for Tell him if they want to have hope for their game, they better scrap that one. With massive clans coming in from other games, they're all going to leave when they realize they have to be in game to talk.
CCP SCREW YOU I CAN USE TS BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS
W T FFFFFFFFFFFF |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:47:00 -
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No but seriously this CANNOT HAPPEN
LET PAY2TALKGATE BEGIN |
LISA MICHELLE WARRIORS
74
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:51:00 -
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7 of us bought it and it works but its not worth what they are charging..... After our 30 days runs out we all will revert back to skype |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:54:00 -
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They need a cap on yhe amount of likes you can give because I have given so many in this thread
Likes are like tanks " if you know what I mean" |
Cyris Fortune
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
66
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:57:00 -
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So let me get the speculation right..... This item can
1) allows you talk to your entire corp, even when not in game (party chat)
Or 2) same as 1 but this includes cross chat to eve players using eve chat?
Eve Chat is free? Yet eve players use Skype / ts for free also. But let's be honest pc gamers have used these methods since Jesus was a kid. So people are thinking, yea your point?
When dust join or are contracted to corp contracts they will no doubt use the same free methods that eve players use. The only real problem is many console players do not know how, cant be arsed or don't have pc / laptop. This then pushes a divide in the new Eden community. Leaving 3 options
1) pay to talk 2)get on Skype or other median 3) leave game 4) go without added extra.
I think option 2 will be taken by most "hardcore" players (those that want a full eve/dust experiance). Option 3 and more likely 4 willbe taken by "pick up and play" gamers. Those that choose 3 will release negativity towards dust.
So what it boils down to is IMHO no one has any real reason to purchase this. It causes more harm than good so "get rid" or "make free" either way it will make very little return. |
Returner Tekki
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
24
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Posted - 2012.08.15 01:57:00 -
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Aaron Atreides wrote:Liu Kaizong wrote:15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: you get voice for free in battle 15:21<[CCP]Nullarbor>: voice out of battle is going to be more for player corps and private channels which you need the UVT for Well here is one of those things that CCP had to try, but I think we all agree (which might be a first) that this is absolutely the worst idea. If you want to develop a community, you do not limit the amount of talking going on. You never, ever charge players to talk to each other when every other MMO, has this option for free. Players spend more time out of battle hanging out with friends then they do playing. This is what builds a community and its players, this is how we make new friends, discuss tactics and ideas. By doing a Pay to Talk, in any shape or form you are ruining one of the best things about a MMO, the friendships you make in game. CCP what ever high paid, know it all exec told you this was a great way to make money, should be FIRED today, right now and never allowed back into any game company. Like many others have said, you pay to talk, then you just killed this game for me, all of my friends and well everyone. Do I think this will be taken out by the time the real game comes out, yes. But to even try this nonsense is beyond stupid IMO.
Yo CCP read what Aaron Atreides wrote. I am a totally eve online fanboy. I am one of the few how liked the station additions and the clothing and yes I even bought the monocle. Charging to communicate is ******* stupid even out of battle. If this stays I will not be playing DUST 514. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:23:00 -
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Does CCP want organisations in EVE and DUST to work smoothly together to make the game awesome?
How does forcing them all to organize using 3rd party software help? DUST and EVE are supposed to be integrated, not segregated. |
Mic McCoy
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:29:00 -
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Im not sure how this is supposed to jive with eve, where you can talk with anyone you want whenever you want. Just seems like a useless money grab to me. I love CCP, but this is a little sketchy... |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:57:00 -
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Naturi Riclenore wrote:Im in-game now (finally) so lets see I can help clarify a bit ....
You have to enable VC on the channel. So if you want it on CORP, you have to highlight CORP in your chat menu, and select CORP - Activate voice. If you want if for your squad, slect SQUAD - Activate Voice. Even on your custom squad you have to do this. Then you can hear the VC (even outside of battle) while in your quarters.
PTT is turned on by default, you can go into the options and turn if off (for instance if you have a mute button already). No way to mute individuals, it's all or nothing. This new AUR chat option is... I don't know. The item description needs a better description.
im quoting myself to clarify the post...
I have not bought the new AUR item. What I described is chat w/o buying the AUR item. You can only have 1 channel active at a time. The AUR item needs a better description for what it's for. As well, would have been nice for CCP to better explain the changes they made to chat |
Surtur Reaperson
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The thing is the lords of the internet charge for voice comms somone has to foot the bill. In eve its built into the sub (ccp ate the bill on that one basically) however for dust 514 its unreasonable for a compnay that barelys gets 66 million a year to pay for voice coms for a potential million people.
Asking eve players to also hoof the bill may not be a good thing either as it would almsot require a price increase on subs.
Here is the deal,they are PLENTY of ways to charge for stuff in a f2p business model. But THIS its not one of them.
And for the ignuramous fanboy who is gonna crawl up saying *nerdvoice* "but you dont have to pay for it if you dont want to"
Yes dickweed you could push your car around, that doesnt make the idea of a car with no engine less idiotic. |
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:20:00 -
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Heres my opinion after my kneejerk reaction:
If UVTs affect squad chat; it is crazy.
If UVTs affect team chat IN GAME, they are crazy.
If UVTs affect team chat out of game, its ridiculous (once deploys for not just squads get working.)
If UVTs affect corp chat, they need removed. If UVTs affect chat between two players temporarily, (say a meeting between an EVE and a DUST player) CCP is of their rocker.
If UVTs are used to make a mass broadcasts or meetings much like a Teamspeak Server (with up to 100s of people not necessarily in a team or squad) then I could see that.
Remember, in MAG you could have a clan deploy with 128 people and have Voice chat with all of them (so go over strategies, tactics, etc. although I doubt anyone ever used all 128 slots and filled the lobby)
As long as I can form a lobby and anyone in that lobby can talk to me, its cool. Selling UVTs as an in game version of TS or Vivox is ok with me since they cost. But the importance of bein able to form relatively large groups of people (at least a full team) and talk for free is paramount. |
Kcobra Rod
Foxhound Corporation
55
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:23:00 -
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... WTF!!!! |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:37:00 -
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Surtur Reaperson wrote:Here is the deal,they are PLENTY of ways to charge for stuff in a f2p business model. But THIS its not one of them.
And for the ignuramous fanboy who is gonna crawl up saying *nerdvoice* "but you dont have to pay for it if you dont want to"
Yes dickweed you could push your car around, that doesnt make the idea of a car with no engine less idiotic. Difference is, you paid for the gas for your car.
You didn't pay for DUST, and voice chat bandwidth costs money especially on a large scale. Why should CCP pay lots of money so that you guys can talk about dicks and boobs and fart all day in your private channel? |
LISA MICHELLE WARRIORS
74
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:45:00 -
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We bought and its GARBAGE....................... It has an internal error every 5 mins.... then you have to reboot twice to get it working again.. Dont buy it everyone.. skype works WAY better |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:08:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Surtur Reaperson wrote:Here is the deal,they are PLENTY of ways to charge for stuff in a f2p business model. But THIS its not one of them.
And for the ignuramous fanboy who is gonna crawl up saying *nerdvoice* "but you dont have to pay for it if you dont want to"
Yes dickweed you could push your car around, that doesnt make the idea of a car with no engine less idiotic. Difference is, you paid for the gas for your car. You didn't pay for DUST, and voice chat bandwidth costs money especially on a large scale. Why should CCP pay lots of money so that you guys can talk about dicks and boobs and fart all day in your private channel?
You honestly don't get it so you?
EVERY OTHER GAME WITH TEAMWORK AND BETWEEN GAME PARTIES DOES THAT. Play MAG. They don't cost you to talk in anclan lonby all day long if you want.
Same with any other teamsork/objective based game or mmo
Also you did afine job of dodging that, when he talks of pushing the car due to lack of engine you talk about buying gas... Clever. But meaningless and amorphous. Cannot be tied down to anything solid but allows a clever job of shadowing the fact that its a standard for all other games, and its not innovative t all, its money grubbing and stupid. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion
63
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:10:00 -
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Posting in yet another .. OMG I WANTS IT ALL FOR FREE .. thread
Remember kiddies, everything in Dust can be brought and sold on the market for ISK as well. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:13:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Posting in yet another .. OMG I WANTS IT ALL FOR FREE .. thread
Remember kiddies, everything in Dust can be brought and sold on the market for ISK as well.
LOL not for a while at any rate. Keep that stock response rolling as you spend hundreds of dollars during that time. |
Surtur Reaperson
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:15:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Surtur Reaperson wrote:Here is the deal,they are PLENTY of ways to charge for stuff in a f2p business model. But THIS its not one of them.
And for the ignuramous fanboy who is gonna crawl up saying *nerdvoice* "but you dont have to pay for it if you dont want to"
Yes dickweed you could push your car around, that doesnt make the idea of a car with no engine less idiotic. Difference is, you paid for the gas for your car. You didn't pay for DUST, and voice chat bandwidth costs money especially on a large scale. Why should CCP pay lots of money so that you guys can talk about dicks and boobs and fart all day in your private channel?
Why would you pay gas for a car with no engine.
Please, its like CCP would start to charge us for their electrical bill. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:16:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:You honestly don't get it so you?
EVERY OTHER GAME WITH TEAMWORK AND BETWEEN GAME PARTIES DOES THAT. Play MAG. They don't cost you to talk in anclan lonby all day long if you want.
Same with any other teamsork/objective based game or mmo
Also you did afine job of dodging that, when he talks of pushing the car due to lack of engine you talk about buying gas... Clever. But meaningless and amorphous. Cannot be tied down to anything solid but allows a clever job of shadowing the fact that its a standard for all other games, and its not innovative t all, its money grubbing and stupid. MAG is only free if you stole it from the shop.
Try again. |
Pt3D
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:24:00 -
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Chris Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:29:00 -
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So far I know you can talk in battle, and to squad members from your Merc Quarters and in battle. So Im not seeing the big deal YET!
Now as far as Corp Chat goes, if you have to pay for that then so be it. It would be like having a Ventrilo or TS server. So get over it.
Sometimes I think people expect way to much. You're getting to play a game that is groundbreaking as far as Technology goes. Computers and PS3s in the same world and server. It's an awesome FPS game so far, and we're in BETA, and it's just gonna get better. And you don't HAVE to spend a ******* dime on it if you don't want to.
So just because you can't talk to every single mutherfucking gamer on the internet while playing DUST for free, does not mean CCP is stupid or wrong for charging you for it. |
Star Killer 420
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:35:00 -
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i believe its 4 EVE players & Dust players to talk to each other not Dust player to Dust player |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:01:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Posting in yet another .. OMG I WANTS IT ALL FOR FREE .. thread
Remember kiddies, everything in Dust can be brought and sold on the market for ISK as well.
Remember kiddies, this entirely depends on: 1. people being stupid enough to buy UVTs in the first place 2. people being dumb enough to spend billions of ISK on resold UVTs instead of skype / messenger / ventrilo / teamspeak / telephone / 2-way radio / cans with string
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Surtur Reaperson
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:23:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote: MAG is only free if you stole it from the shop.
Try again.
1 question, how does it feel to have such a punctured schfinter? |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:28:00 -
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Surtur Reaperson wrote:1 question, how does it feel to have such a puntured schfinter? All my excrement is made of pure logic, so it can be a bit scary to be around me when I start spewing it forth in massive quantities. |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
99
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:34:00 -
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This now is at the point where you punch your granny in the face or just **** laughing. Congrats ccp I just punched my granny in the face.
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Surtur Reaperson
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:38:00 -
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I was wondering since if you rode a **** any harder, you would've appeared on a jenna jameson's compilation.
And no, your logic its a festering pile of failure, huh I guess its like regular ****. Well thanks for letting us know about your oral diarrhea, now we know. |
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CCP Frame
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:47:00 -
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Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat - Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. |
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Pt3D
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:52:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat - Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
Now, that's how you DEFLATE a ballon, kids. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:59:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello,
Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free:
UVT Gives you:
- Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect.
UVT is NOT required for:
- Team voice chat - Squad voice chat
Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time.
Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. I have a question/clarification about UVT usage.
Currently when I buy UVT it allows me one month of free voice chat on any private channel. But this UVT item is linked to just the character I bought it with. So if I have 3 characters I have to buy the UVT 3 times. As I am only able to use one character at a time, I don't believe this is designed well.
As I see it, the UVT item should be linked to the player (or have multiple items, one for each character). After all, it's not like a skill booster where the character actually enjoys the module. It's something I as a player use and my character gains nothing. As it is now, I would have to spend 3x900 AUR if I have 3 characters just to get something I already have. Seems wrong. |
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