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The MM system may not work in "Dust 514" are few players in this game by trying to match them, the game ends 4vs15 or 6vs12.
Was not the best idea.
PS: Wait, if previously lasted 2/3 min enter a FW, how much now?

What, you don't have starter loadouts. Better send in a ticket.

Cute. Allow me to explain, since you missed the point. Or choose to ignore it because you still cling to this idea that Skill > Gear.

True, we do have starter suits, and yes I do use them when making money. But why I'm a forced to run them consistently to fund proto. Yes this made perfect sense before, as you would be matched with newbs that lacked this themselves. So it was sort of a balancing factor with the lack of matchmaking.

But now that we have this match making system (which seems to be working quite well), shouldn't you be encouraging the use of proto at higher tiers. You know, since those being matched will no doubt have it. Why do we need to downgrade to lesser gear when you have the ability to run the best of the best and we are facing the best of the best.

Maybe it's time to reevaluate this, eh. Like I said, the reason many of us crave PC battles, is because we know going in that:

.: The match will no doubt incorporate the use of nothing but proto, meaning an even match based on skill and coordination alone.

2. The payout reflects this, allowing us to at least break even or not come out too far in the hole. Unless we lose of course, but corp reimburses for this.

I personally don't have much time in the day to dedicate to this game, so much of my time is spent grinding out isk to fund a game or two of proto. I want to have some fun, and am excited about this new matchmaking (if we only had full teams). Not spend a majority of my time being inferior to play on the same level.

So please, don't be rude about this and consider encouraging more proto play at higher tiers by giving us better payouts to do so. Your matchmaking is working beautifully, so encouraging gear for it's respective tier in matchmaking would be the icing on this delicious cake that is matchmaking.

I've always wondered why WP's value weren't given out on a tiered basis.

50 WP for MLT/STD, 100 WP for ADV, 150 for PRO. Would shrink protoplayers' payouts/SP if they grab mainly easy kills, and would reward other players for taking a stand and trying to deal losses to the stompers instead of cowering to save ISK, since more WP = more ISK of course.

It seemed to be better than before this past Monday and Tuesday (3/30, 3/31), but yesterday and today it's gotten progressively worseGǪ something's definitely not right. At first I thought it was mercs leaving a tough fight but it's definitely more than that. One of my corp mates said something about mercs not being replaced in matches that sounded like it made a lot of sense.

I ended up on the tough end of a 2 vs 10 match. Made a LOT of ISK, but that's not the way I want to do it...

Considering the matchmaking:

I had a few games with different characters, and I must say, compliment to our saviour, The Ratatwheaton has finally given us a lot of good battles. The noobs can play against noobs, and the vets against vets.

I got dropped in battles nearly over, where my team was on the backfoot, and we managed to turn them around on several occasions. So even the late entrys are worth a fight. I only had one very late one, where my team had only 12 clones left on my entry and we got cloned. But still, since all the other battles where such a good experience compared to the last months, I was happy to search a kill in that one and be good with it.

All in all, the matchmaking works brilliant for me. It might be because I always ran in basic and advanced fits, and it seems that my crappy kdr is also considered. My KDR seems to profit from those games, so I'm fine.

And even in some of the late entrys, I managed to get nearly 1000 WP, so it's really worth to hang in and try to do your best.


63mil SP if anybody is wondering...


BTW, I've seen a lot of the high kdr vets chickening in the redline or sniping... what a bunch of pathetic scrubs... LOL

Perhaps when a squad ditches the match like that we can have the ISK payouts spike dramatically based on the end-of-match Mu disparity.

People aren't going to scream overmuch if their payout jumps x2-x3 in ISK/SP (insert amount based on how lopsided) when the mu ratio between teams becomes heinously lopsided.

Because what happens in the end is going to be pro squad wimps out leaving the miscellaneous masochists to pick up the slack. If there was a situation like that you'd see me gleefully playing last man standing vs. 16 bads without complaint.

The problem (from a vets p.o.v.) is that as it is right now proto is absolutely required because every match is fought against top tier corps who only run proto. Too many players have these high mu scores which pit them against other vets, which is fine, however with no isk they have to run cheap fits which causes them only to die more while the rich players can just run proto 24/7 without a care. Yes, I'm one of those rich players, but most of the guys I run with aren't. So what am I to do? I feel like I can't run with my "friends" anymore because they're poor and running their cheap fits is causing us to get stomped. The only vets that are going to survive this new matchmaking are the extremely rich. Everyone else is going to get frustrated and leave the game.

Won't this system (even if implemented perfectly) break down? Mu is based on W/L ratio. The purpose of the match maker is to even things out. If the matchmaker works then everyone will have their W/L ratio made closer to 1 because they'll be playing against players with a similar skill set.

So after a while really good and really unskilled players would have similar Mu. Based on that we'd be back to our initial state where anyone gets paired up with anyone.

I've always wondered why WP's value weren't given out on a tiered basis.

50 WP for MLT/STD, 100 WP for ADV, 150 for PRO. Would shrink protoplayers' payouts/SP if they grab mainly easy kills, and would reward other players for taking a stand and trying to deal losses to the stompers instead of cowering to save ISK, since more WP = more ISK of course.

Cute. Allow me to explain, since you missed the point. Or choose to ignore it because you still cling to this idea that Skill > Gear.

True, we do have starter suits, and yes I do use them when making money. But why I'm a forced to run them consistently to fund proto. Yes this made perfect sense before, as you would be matched with newbs that lacked this themselves. So it was sort of a balancing factor with the lack of matchmaking.

But now that we have this match making system (which seems to be working quite well), shouldn't you be encouraging the use of proto at higher tiers. You know, since those being matched will no doubt have it. Why do we need to downgrade to lesser gear when you have the ability to run the best of the best and we are facing the best of the best.

Maybe it's time to reevaluate this, eh. Like I said, the reason many of us crave PC battles, is because we know going in that:

.: The match will no doubt incorporate the use of nothing but proto, meaning an even match based on skill and coordination alone.

2. The payout reflects this, allowing us to at least break even or not come out too far in the hole. Unless we lose of course, but corp reimburses for this.

I personally don't have much time in the day to dedicate to this game, so much of my time is spent grinding out isk to fund a game or two of proto. I want to have some fun, and am excited about this new matchmaking (if we only had full teams). Not spend a majority of my time being inferior to play on the same level.

So please, don't be rude about this and consider encouraging more proto play at higher tiers by giving us better payouts to do so. Your matchmaking is working beautifully, so encouraging gear for it's respective tier in matchmaking would be the icing on this delicious cake that is matchmaking.

I've always wondered why WP's value weren't given out on a tiered basis.

50 WP for MLT/STD, 100 WP for ADV, 150 for PRO. Would shrink protoplayers' payouts/SP if they grab mainly easy kills, and would reward other players for taking a stand and trying to deal losses to the stompers instead of cowering to save ISK, since more WP = more ISK of course.

IDGAS