I've always wondered why WP's value weren't given out on a tiered basis.

50 WP for MLT/STD, 100 WP for ADV, 150 for PRO. Would shrink protoplayers' payouts/SP if they grab mainly easy kills, and would reward other players for taking a stand and trying to deal losses to the stompers instead of cowering to save ISK, since more WP = more ISK of course.

IDGAS

The problem (from a vets p.o.v.) is that as it is right now proto is absolutely required because every match is fought against top tier corps who only run proto. Too many players have these high mu scores which pit them against other vets, which is fine, however with no isk they have to run cheap fits which causes them only to die more while the rich players can just run proto 24/7 without a care. Yes, I'm one of those rich players, but most of the guys I run with aren't. So what am I to do? I feel like I can't run with my "friends" anymore because they're poor and running their cheap fits is causing us to get stomped. The only vets that are going to survive this new matchmaking are the extremely rich. Everyone else is going to get frustrated and leave the game.

EVen better if there is a "killed by STD", 200 WP for killing Proto in Militia ;)


I have never seen or thought this myself. Very excited by this, will evaluate.

I still run STD/ADV fits throughout and still have the same results as before.

why not all switch to Frontline suits and mercilessly bleed the opposing team?

Ok, if everyone hasn't figured it out, CCP is tweaking the settings while looking at all the data for the matches. Give them a break and stay positive.

This is them hearing the radio stations are fuzzy so they are twisting the rabbit ears. You listen and try to tune in to the best it will ever be. Some people will still complain when this is done, but bow down to Ratiti Wheaton because he has yet again made an awesome change we have been begging for since beta. Nice move!!

Overall I hear all of our newer corp members talk about how much better the matches have been. Usually they want to squad up so the vets can even the playing field against other vets but this lets them play on their own when they want to grind.

I am sure we will see the same thing with simple trading. Implement then fine tune.

Please be sure to keep this logic out of FW. The vets need somewhere outside of a PC to fight anyone they want.

Cute. Allow me to explain, since you missed the point. Or choose to ignore it because you still cling to this idea that Skill > Gear.

True, we do have starter suits, and yes I do use them when making money. But why I'm a forced to run them consistently to fund proto. Yes this made perfect sense before, as you would be matched with newbs that lacked this themselves. So it was sort of a balancing factor with the lack of matchmaking.

But now that we have this match making system (which seems to be working quite well), shouldn't you be encouraging the use of proto at higher tiers. You know, since those being matched will no doubt have it. Why do we need to downgrade to lesser gear when you have the ability to run the best of the best and we are facing the best of the best.

Maybe it's time to reevaluate this, eh. Like I said, the reason many of us crave PC battles, is because we know going in that:

.: The match will no doubt incorporate the use of nothing but proto, meaning an even match based on skill and coordination alone.

2. The payout reflects this, allowing us to at least break even or not come out too far in the hole. Unless we lose of course, but corp reimburses for this.

I personally don't have much time in the day to dedicate to this game, so much of my time is spent grinding out isk to fund a game or two of proto. I want to have some fun, and am excited about this new matchmaking (if we only had full teams). Not spend a majority of my time being inferior to play on the same level.

So please, don't be rude about this and consider encouraging more proto play at higher tiers by giving us better payouts to do so. Your matchmaking is working beautifully, so encouraging gear for it's respective tier in matchmaking would be the icing on this delicious cake that is matchmaking.

So, I was brainstorming ideas about the whole leaving match issue.

Why not just keep putting the people that leave back into that same match until they get the idea?

Flag their MU rating as a squad. If they left because they needed to pick up someone then their MU rating will have changed.

If they left battle because they needed to log off for a bit it wouldn't effect them.

BUT... if they left because they thought the fight was going to be too hard just keep putting them back in that same match.

Considering the matchmaking:

I had a few games with different characters, and I must say, compliment to our saviour, The Ratatwheaton has finally given us a lot of good battles. The noobs can play against noobs, and the vets against vets.

I got dropped in battles nearly over, where my team was on the backfoot, and we managed to turn them around on several occasions. So even the late entrys are worth a fight. I only had one very late one, where my team had only 12 clones left on my entry and we got cloned. But still, since all the other battles where such a good experience compared to the last months, I was happy to search a kill in that one and be good with it.

All in all, the matchmaking works brilliant for me. It might be because I always ran in basic and advanced fits, and it seems that my crappy kdr is also considered. My KDR seems to profit from those games, so I'm fine.

And even in some of the late entrys, I managed to get nearly 1000 WP, so it's really worth to hang in and try to do your best.


63mil SP if anybody is wondering...


BTW, I've seen a lot of the high kdr vets chickening in the redline or sniping... what a bunch of pathetic scrubs... LOL

Like it. A lot.

Plus thinking about those squads getting dumped back into the match they ran away from makes me giggle like a matari schoolgirl.