As I have said so far as a lower tier player I've generally been enjoying the matchmaker. Even though I am a low level player and can't really comment on vets matchmaking and experience, as a general thing, making public contracts more of an ISK sink for vets can only be a good thing. I know people who have the SP for proto want to be able to, and feel that they should be entitled to, run it all the time but the fact is that there are two metrics to what you can and can't do in Dust SP and ISK. Having one doesn't mean you have to have the other, and don't forget there are benefits to having, eg Assault Rifle lvl 5 even if you're only using a std/adv version (this is very apparent in lower tier matches currently by the way).

Although I agree with saying that epic public battles should pay out epically in general I feel public contracts will benefit from people having to be more ISK aware leading to more people being in the middle ground between the high and low tiers undulating between the two good week to bad.

The economy is broken and some people have more money than they'll ever need, BUT this should be being whittled down unless they're keeping it topped up in regular PC. I've not run it before but I know PC needs fixing to be genuinely fun and accessible...... Maybe things like Raids if they come in will help too. FW should stay as a 'run what you brung' arena without the new matchmaking logic.

Running proto in public contracts should be a good trade off of Risk vs Reward but the emphasis should, in general, be on the Risk. That is just my opinion and I admit that it may change if I ever get to be in that position and do understand why others won't agree/ feel it is wrong for Dust.

Aeon suggested using the special contracts tab for one off missions that offer guaranteed payouts/salvage for those completing the battle. These could also offer an option for regular hardcore proto on proto action as people know the risk from the get go. The gamble here should be MAYBE you'll get more from doing a public contract instead but maybe not.

Also I like the reappearance of the idea of variable war points for killing higher tiered suits. Saw something similar floated a year or so ago and assumed it had been discounted. Would discourage people dropping into the lower tier of matchmaking and protostomping (I've mentioned that I had a member of Prima Gallicus running full proto min assault in a match the other night against all noobs and going 65/0) esp if there was an inverse multiplier for suits below your tier too??

That'll do for me today, have a good day all.

EVen better if there is a "killed by STD", 200 WP for killing Proto in Militia ;)


I have never seen or thought this myself. Very excited by this, will evaluate.

No matchmaking algorithm from even a mathematical genius would fix players' willingness to look good instead of fight hard.

You're another confirmed programmer on the DUST team. It's a good sign to the less daft among us. It meansthe game isn't dead yet. We can be patient.

Perhaps when a squad ditches the match like that we can have the ISK payouts spike dramatically based on the end-of-match Mu disparity.

People aren't going to scream overmuch if their payout jumps x2-x3 in ISK/SP (insert amount based on how lopsided) when the mu ratio between teams becomes heinously lopsided.

Because what happens in the end is going to be pro squad wimps out leaving the miscellaneous masochists to pick up the slack. If there was a situation like that you'd see me gleefully playing last man standing vs. 16 bads without complaint.

Like it. A lot.

Plus thinking about those squads getting dumped back into the match they ran away from makes me giggle like a matari schoolgirl.

I've noticed that I almost always agree with your very simple, logical, and realistic ideas...

Why aren't you on the CPM???

Welp.

Ran a few matches solo. Also ran a match squad with a few psychos. Of dubious yet amusing character.

The matchups were a mixed bag, no stomps. Most of the times I got my ass kicked I was simply using the wrong fit for the maps and opposition.

Matchmaking was remarkably even and not one sided. Had a few blue dots who were able to figure out how to capitalize on my headlong rushes, berserker rages and destructive impulses.

All in all... vastly improved.


Killing proto in quafe is just magical as always.

You're welcome

And yes The Snuggle (as well as the duel Quafe insertion) Is Real!

I WAS THERE

DUST IS REAL

Your opponent wasn't stacked. I wonder if there wasn't another explanation for that squad leaving.

On a related "stomp mentality" that I find absolutely pathetic.

Story time:

I was playing as a new character this morning, to try out the lower Mu bracket.

After a while, I start seeing familiar names on the killscreen, going maybe 20/5, which is basically an exit criteria on its own.

I got curious, and looked up the top ranking players on both sides for my matches.

They were ALL alts of veteran players, freshly created today!

Not only that, but I could see all of their second alts, were scheduled for removal.

So tomorrow, they will have a fresh alt, and schedule today's alt for removal.

I am competitive, but what drives players to do this, slaughter players that are in many cases patently helpless?

The Academy is for new players to get their bearings, relatively risk free. Learn the maps, drop an uplink, spawn on uplink, try out the starter fits, scan, and hack.

Whatever, just writing this makes me furious. Just thought I would share that some will go to incredible lengths to grief, or pad their self esteem.

Not sure what you mean by stacked, but I guess they could've left a merc behind. They do appear to join and leave several times throughout, but then again so do others. Guess that bug getting smashed asap would be very useful now it's causing problems with matchmaking

GOD DAMNIT!!!! THIS IS THE NEW SCOTTY BUG!!

#stayinformed

He keeps putting whole squads into battle involuntarily and immediately kicks them all out again. This can go on endlessly at times. Got kicked nearly 20 times in a row, we didn't leave BY CHOICE.

@CCP acknowledge this already!