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The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game RUST415 77	Posted - 2015.04.08 15:15:00 - [451] - Quote E-Rock wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: E-Rock wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: M1tch Rapp wrote: Overall it seems better to me. People just need a bigger carrot to keep pushing for the win. No telling how much easier this matchmaking dream would come true for you guys if people were playing like they are properly motivated. Thanks, but I think it's unfair to blame our players too much, there're indeed issues with some related systems, what I also want to say is we're aware of them and have been thinking of fixing them, one by one. I am getting scottied and getting pulled into battles that I am not trying to get into play the game from 15 seconds - 5 minutes and getting pulled out of match. I am losing suits and getting little pay in wallet for these matches that a botched. This is a huge disappointment and is making people not want to play the game and turing the game off. Would be great if new mechanics were tested before they were released... Cant you just relog and see if the problem still exist? Sometimes it happens. i have and it does. I'm turning off the PS3, turning it back on, logging into Dust, and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. Did this for 45 minutes and I done> It's nearly 12am here in Tokyo and sleep beckons. What a waste of a booster... At least i understand why when you are in my same match framerate decrease a lot Alt of H0riz0n Unlimit, DMG director, FOTM chaser

CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 134	Posted - 2015.04.08 15:24:00 - [452] - Quote E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? a passionate developer

The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game RUST415 77	Posted - 2015.04.08 15:42:00 - [453] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? I think he log in and without start queing he deploys in a game Alt of H0riz0n Unlimit, DMG director, FOTM chaser
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1476	Posted - 2015.04.08 17:24:00 - [454] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: I solo queued for 5 matches today. I was placed into all Doms, and my team never had more than 10 people. By the end of some matches I had 5 or 6 people on my team. Lost every single match by a landslide. I was one of the only players doing anything on my side every time. I got the train map 4 times, 3 in a row at one point. The other map was the meat grinder. The other team had no less than 14 players each time, and every one of the opposing team contributed. I hardly ever run with squads, there is no way my Mu can be that high. Frustrating... At least pay me well for sticking around and trying. I was still only getting 200-300k for being in the top 3 and being one of the only mercs on my team trying, and not caring about their kdr. Turning off the console and doing better things with my time. Are these problems specific to Dom? Alright. After playing Ambush and Skirm this weekend, I definitely see a pattern. Dom is without a doubt the mode that if you queue solo, you have the highest rate of both the Train map, and getting roflstomped. Skirmish was about 80% balanced I would say. This goes for both my solo and squad efforts. The other 20% of the time is made up of 15% roflstomps, and 5% a-holes leaving the battle causing me to fight 6 vs 13. I did not notice regular stomps. It was either a great and fair fight, or it was an absolute steam roll. Ambush, as you have found as well, has actually been the best matches I had over the weekend. This coming from a merc that HATES Ambush. I never had too lopsided teams count wise. 11 vs 15 was the worst I had. 90% of my Ambushes were great, even matches. 10% were some of the worst steam rolls I've ever been a part of. This too, was via both solo and (small 3-4) squads. Biggest complaint, by far, is that teams are not filled. Yes I won a few of the 9-11 vs 14-16, but it is not fun to start at that much of a disadvantage, especially when you are on the attacking side. My kdr has suffered from this experiment, but meh, don't really care anymore. IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1008	Posted - 2015.04.08 17:56:00 - [455] - Quote Considering I have pretty much exclusively run ambush I find it now very sad that I am unable to play this game mode anymore as there appears to be no games, Scotty absolutely refuses to let me have a quick game of bush. Seriously I don't want to play Dom or Skirmish. Pointlessly capping points does not appeal to me.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1009	Posted - 2015.04.08 17:59:00 - [456] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? Nope, if you x to join a battle and then get a Scotty message then x out of it - sometimes Scotty just throws you into another game anyways.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 1009	Posted - 2015.04.08 18:03:00 - [457] - Quote Joined a dom with 1 clone remaining on red team.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2103	Posted - 2015.04.08 18:19:00 - [458] - Quote If it's any help in figuring out what's going on - I got the scotty failure message whilst actually in battle earlier. I clicked the msg to close it and continued with my battle. Have footage if that's useful (don't see why it would be but I can put it up if you want to see it)
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2015.04.08 20:11:00 - [459] - Quote God this sucks, keep getting paired with vets. A lot of them are scouts adding insult to injury by shredding my ADV Heavy's shield and armor with freakin' "Bullsh*t's ass chunks and cheese SMG" knowing I can't damage even the Light class they're using. Still tweaking or is it official that 3Mil+ SP is capable of taking on 40Mil+ SP Vets? Didn't get this on my new char as far as I know.. 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2180	Posted - 2015.04.08 20:25:00 - [460] - Quote I spent this morning solo'n. I've been telling people not to play solo because it's terrible with the current system. So I decided to do some research just to verify. I played 6-7 games this morning with ambush and domination cued. Each match I was either cued up or against the stompiest group of Japanese players you've ever seen. In the matches where I was against the Japanese crew everyone but me, and 3 blue dots left battle. In the matches where I was teamed up with the Japanese players, everyone but 4 players left the battle. Deserters are making this game suck hard. Unleash the BIMBOBOT!

CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 515	Posted - 2015.04.08 20:34:00 - [461] - Quote I've logged in and played Pub matches for the passed eight days sporadically (sporadically means six out of eight days). During that time, I played Domination matches almost entirely. The only other match I played was a Gallente FW match. I don't do Que-synching. I didn't create a squad of any kind during these eight days. I entered Solo, but did my best to coordinate as part of "my team". I used Uplinks extensively during every match. I have only 20 saved mail in my Inbox. About 30 saved mail in my Sent folder. I have nearly the MAX number allowable number of Chat Channels joined on my "chat-com", yet they are all abandoned by other players and have no player activity. I'm based in Northeastern USA. I almost always keep my in-game "Server" set to Automatic. I run my PS3 wirelessly to my Internet service. And I use an early-model Cech-E series PS3 (a fattie). I have experienced LAG in my matches only about five times in ALL the months I've played Pub or FW matches. No lie. My Experience So Far: Using only Militia and Standard suit/weapons and advanced suit-modules, I have won about 8 of every 10 Domination matches. The clone depletion-rate has been about even for both sides in every match (no more than a 15 clone reserve difference). I haven't had a "Clone Reserves Depleted" finale more than once in 8 days. Regardless of the Alt I use, I have ended up in the 4 on the leaderboard 7 out of 10 Dom matches. I have seen new players "joined the battle" during the last 60 seconds of a defeated MCC; it's happened about three times overf the passed 8 days. BUT, this is WAY less than I've have seen it happen in prior to the Easter weekend. Opposing teams have not been "imbalanced" more than 11blues-to-13reds, or 9blues-to-7reds. The longest I have had to wait after I hit the "instant battle" button until I get a match is 1 min, 50 seconds. My FW matches often do "time out" with the Scotty message, 8 out of 10 times I attempt to join an FW match, but ONLY when I have selected only ONE out of the three possible Faction boxes to join. Some of the observations I made above are NEW and enjoyable (increased match wins, fewer clone-depletion wins, fewer 'joined-lost-battle' players). Some are new, but I don't believe they affected the actual gameplay (better leaderboard standing, SLIGHT team-number imbalance). Comparing my experience with others I see posted here, I think we have to conclude that a LOT of the players who are getter really AWFUL match-incidents are NOT necessarily due to the game----but due to one or more of the PS3/region/Server facts I listed above. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 190	Posted - 2015.04.08 23:19:00 - [462] - Quote I don't known if it's down to matchmaking or a lack of players, but I've been queuing 5 minutes for skirmish almost every time tonight. And then it sticks me into an almost over battle, or a battle where we are being redlined. For once, it's quicker to queue FW! I also had a 15v9 match earlier, people left mid-battle and weren't replaced.
E-Rock Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2015.04.09 00:48:00 - [463] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about). We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before. To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet... Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇÇµùÑµ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½ -Founder of CKC and UCKC -Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
E-Rock Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2015.04.09 00:56:00 - [464] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? I think he log in and without start queing he deploys in a game yes. this is exactly what happens Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇÇµùÑµ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½ -Founder of CKC and UCKC -Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8651	Posted - 2015.04.09 00:59:00 - [465] - Quote E-Rock wrote: The KTM DuKe wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: ... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ... Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? I think he log in and without start queing he deploys in a game yes. this is exactly what happens Experienced this issue a few days back. Logging in/out resolved the problem. Haven't experienced the issue since. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2707795#post2707795 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 164	Posted - 2015.04.09 02:25:00 - [466] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: God this sucks, keep getting paired with vets. A lot of them are scouts adding insult to injury by shredding my ADV Heavy's shield and armor with freakin' "Bullsh*t's ass chunks and cheese SMG" knowing I can't damage even the Light class they're using. Still tweaking or is it official that 3Mil+ SP is capable of taking on 40Mil+ SP Vets? Didn't get this on my new char as far as I know.. From SP point of view, I can tell you there're evenly 30mil, 40mil or >50mil players on both team, and they all fight to the end, so it should still considered even if you look at teams not individual players. a passionate developer


CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 168	Posted - 2015.04.09 02:41:00 - [467] - Quote E-Rock wrote: O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about). We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before. To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet... Ah... I would say it's some dirty corners in the battle system, our GM and QA had noticed some weird bugs a long time ago, but it's so hard to find a solution or sometimes even reproduce the bug... Speaking of matchmaking, if you squad up with really really high skill players, then unless there's an equally good squad queueing at the same time, it's doomed to find a battle, because we cannot find 2 balanced teams with enough players... Can you try solo? Is it better? a passionate developer

E-Rock Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 77	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:27:00 - [468] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: E-Rock wrote: O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about). We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before. To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet... Ah... I would say it's some dirty corners in the battle system, our GM and QA had noticed some weird bugs a long time ago, but it's so hard to find a solution or sometimes even reproduce the bug... Speaking of matchmaking, if you squad up with really really high skill players, then unless there's an equally good squad queueing at the same time, it's doomed to find a battle, because we cannot find 2 balanced teams with enough players... Can you try solo? Is it better? No. ** that. I personally take offense to that coming from a dev. I was going to cut into you AquarHead, but I erased all of scathing remarks... I have always played this game having a full squad for a myriad of reasons. Would you like me to list some? 1) A well organized squad can single handedly win a skirmish. No question. If you say I'm wrong, your squading with unorganized one or your squad in just terrible 2) Squading with people is a lot of fun. It creates comradeship in your team. 3) Team work is extremely effective in battle 4) this game DC'd people so much that I want to have some people with me in the event that 1 or 2 players gets DC'd, ect. The list goes on, there are no disadvantages to running a squad. I feel that a bunch of the really crappy players that have no corp, no friends, no tactics complain to you devs endlessly that they are facing proto all the time or using some other BS excuse for why they suck and you nerffed matchmaking for these people that don't know how to play, use the same scrub tactics over and over, get countered, a whine and cry when they repeatedly get killed, and can't see this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a **ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious? Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇÇµùÑµ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½ -Founder of CKC and UCKC -Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:36:00 - [469] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: God this sucks, keep getting paired with vets. A lot of them are scouts adding insult to injury by shredding my ADV Heavy's shield and armor with freakin' "Bullsh*t's ass chunks and cheese SMG" knowing I can't damage even the Light class they're using. Still tweaking or is it official that 3Mil+ SP is capable of taking on 40Mil+ SP Vets? Didn't get this on my new char as far as I know.. From SP point of view, I can tell you there're evenly 30mil, 40mil or >50mil players on both team, and they all fight to the end, so it should still considered even if you look at teams not individual players. 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:36:00 - [470] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: From SP point of view, I can tell you there're evenly 30mil, 40mil or >50mil players on both team, and they all fight to the end, so it should still considered even if you look at teams not individual players. Did you just say what I think you did? It's like in a 16v16 match Vets of 30mil, 40mil or 50mil+ SP are equally divided in slots on both sides and the rest are filled with Low ranks like me? That's how the matchmaking works?? 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.


CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 174	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:45:00 - [471] - Quote E-Rock wrote: this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a ****ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious? So as a diciplined group, do you want to stomp players which are much lower skills than you or you want to fight a similarly diciplined group to fight against, at least we don't want the former one to happen. a passionate developer


CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 174	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:00:00 - [472] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: From SP point of view, I can tell you there're evenly 30mil, 40mil or >50mil players on both team, and they all fight to the end, so it should still considered even if you look at teams not individual players. Did you just say what I think you did? It's like in a 16v16 match Vets of 30mil, 40mil or 50mil+ SP are equally divided in slots on both sides and the rest are filled with Low ranks like me? That's how the matchmaking works?? Double posted for some reason? Can't delete that other one, dunno what happened.. It will do this only if it cannot find enough players with similar skills (within certain time limit), as a last resort, also we do not determine "skill" of a player by SP. a passionate developer


CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 176	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:14:00 - [473] - Quote E-Rock wrote: No. **** that. I personally take offense to that coming from a dev. I was going to cut into you AquarHead, but I erased all of scathing remarks... I have always played this game having a full squad for a myriad of reasons. Would you like me to list some? 1) A well organized squad can single handedly win a skirmish. No question. If you say I'm wrong, your squading with unorganized one or your squad in just terrible 2) Squading with people is a lot of fun. It creates comradeship in your team. 3) Team work is extremely effective in battle 4) this game DC'd people so much that I want to have some people with me in the event that 1 or 2 players gets DC'd, ect. The list goes on, there are no disadvantages to running a squad. I agree with the good parts of running a squad, and we do prioritize putting high-skill squads into battle, if squad keep getting scottied, its only reason is it cannot find another similarly good squad atm. Just like you said, a good squad can win a match, but what's the point of a battle where 6(sqaud) vs 16 and still the squad wins? But we'll rethink how to deal with such case and try to fix it. Also, this is really a mini update, we aren't touching any system other than matchmaking itself, problems like DC etc.. isn't actually related to this. a passionate developer

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11469	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:19:00 - [474] - Quote E-Rock wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: Ah... I would say it's some dirty corners in the battle system, our GM and QA had noticed some weird bugs a long time ago, but it's so hard to find a solution or sometimes even reproduce the bug... Speaking of matchmaking, if you squad up with really really high skill players, then unless there's an equally good squad queueing at the same time, it's doomed to find a battle, because we cannot find 2 balanced teams with enough players... Can you try solo? Is it better? No. ** that. I personally take offense to that coming from a dev. I was going to cut into you AquarHead, but I erased all of scathing remarks... I have always played this game having a full squad for a myriad of reasons. Would you like me to list some? 1) A well organized squad can single handedly win a skirmish. No question. If you say I'm wrong, your squading with unorganized one or your squad in just terrible 2) Squading with people is a lot of fun. It creates comradeship in your team. 3) Team work is extremely effective in battle 4) this game DC'd people so much that I want to have some people with me in the event that 1 or 2 players gets DC'd, ect. The list goes on, there are no disadvantages to running a squad. I feel that a bunch of the really crappy players that have no corp, no friends, no tactics complain to you devs endlessly that they are facing proto all the time or using some other BS excuse for why they suck and you nerffed matchmaking for these people that don't know how to play, use the same scrub tactics over and over, get countered, a whine and cry when they repeatedly get killed, and can't see this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a **ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious? He was just saying that there might be a fault somewhere in the battle system. He also said said that because there are just so few players available, it's hard to find a balanced match based on the squad you're in if you happen to be with vets in your squad. Have you tried squading up with other players of your tier and see you might get better matches? Also, he was just making a suggestion about going solo to give it a try. Nothing wrong with doing that. I have been going solo for a long time now and so far I have not had much problems with matchmaking recently with only some minor exceptions. However, it seems to me that there might be a problem with mid-tier players finding a good match. Players in the low and high tiers seem to have less problems compared to mid-tier. At least that's what me and one other player think so far. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
SponkSponkSponk WarRavens 1145	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:41:00 - [475] - Quote Yeah, try running in three squads of 2 and you'll have a lot better chance at a game. Dust/Eve transfers
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:44:00 - [476] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: It will do this only if it cannot find enough players with similar skills (within certain time limit), as a last resort, also we do not determine "skill" of a player by SP. Uhm...maybe you should because this game is based on the weapons, gear and armor you have, skill doesn't count for sh*t. If me and a vet shoot at each other who's going to win? Me with ADV Heavy and ADV weaponry or the Vet with Proto Heavy and Proto weaponry AND gear? In case you missed it earlier, I raged at the fact that I couldn't damage a Vet in Light armor and they shredded my shield/armor with an smg. I have an average of 20 or more kills and 10 or likely less deaths in a game with no Vets fighting people on my level. 5 kills if I'm lucky and 19 or more deaths in games with Vets. Is my "skill" lacking or is this game based on SP?? 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
Sigourney Reever Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 105	Posted - 2015.04.09 04:50:00 - [477] - Quote Lol, AquarHEAD, trial by fire! Welcome to the Forums. =)

CCP AquarHEAD C C P C C P Alliance 178	Posted - 2015.04.09 05:04:00 - [478] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: It will do this only if it cannot find enough players with similar skills (within certain time limit), as a last resort, also we do not determine "skill" of a player by SP. Uhm...maybe you should because this game is based on the weapons, gear and armor you have, skill doesn't count for sh*t. If me and a vet shoot at each other who's going to win? Me with ADV Heavy and ADV weaponry or the Vet with Proto Heavy and Proto weaponry AND gear? In case you missed it earlier, I raged at the fact that I couldn't damage a Vet in Light armor and they shredded my shield/armor with an smg. I have an average of 20 or more kills and 10 or likely less deaths in a game with no Vets fighting people on my level. 5 kills if I'm lucky and 19 or more deaths in games with Vets. Is my "skill" lacking or is this game based on SP?? Skill seems to create confusion, it's better called "ranking" Several facts: 1. There isn't much battles where vet and non-vet mixed together 2. If a good player with low ranking from matchmaking's view, he will move to high ranking pretty fast by winning, so you wouldn't face them in just a few (or maybe one) match after 3. Even in a battle like you're talking about, you still have many low ranking players in the other team for you to counter, and what I'm saying is on your side you also have vets to counter enemy vets. A battle shouldn't be decided solely by one or two vets, it's also about the whole team, so killing other players also contributes to your victory 4. When fighting against higher ranking players, if you lose, it's kind of expected, so you won't lose much ranking, but if you win, your ranking would increase by a lot, so losing a few matches because of vets isn't that much of an issue from ranking point of view. a passionate developer

nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 69	Posted - 2015.04.09 05:52:00 - [479] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: It will do this only if it cannot find enough players with similar skills (within certain time limit), as a last resort, also we do not determine "skill" of a player by SP. Uhm...maybe you should because this game is based on the weapons, gear and armor you have, skill doesn't count for sh*t. If me and a vet shoot at each other who's going to win? Me with ADV Heavy and ADV weaponry or the Vet with Proto Heavy and Proto weaponry AND gear? In case you missed it earlier, I raged at the fact that I couldn't damage a Vet in Light armor and they shredded my shield/armor with an smg. I have an average of 20 or more kills and 10 or likely less deaths in a game with no Vets fighting people on my level. 5 kills if I'm lucky and 19 or more deaths in games with Vets. Is my "skill" lacking or is this game based on SP?? Honestly youve got to learn how to pick and choose your fights if u see someone in proto gear who you know you stand no chance against then back off or lay cover fire so hopefully someone else eliminates if you're a logi provide support. Especially if your new to the game yea this game is designed for vets to have advantage but if you cooperate with your teamates tactfully you can gain upper hand. I've killed proto gear users in basic gear before (mind you I know my sp skills improved my odds quite a bit) but if I continuously get wiped out by same person in same spot I stop pursuing him/her. Hell since matchmaking update second day I seen a group of basic and adv gear users wipe out a squad of proto users was the funniest thing ever
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 69	Posted - 2015.04.09 05:58:00 - [480] - Quote CCP AquarHEAD wrote: Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: CCP AquarHEAD wrote: It will do this only if it cannot find enough players with similar skills (within certain time limit), as a last resort, also we do not determine "skill" of a player by SP. Uhm...maybe you should because this game is based on the weapons, gear and armor you have, skill doesn't count for sh*t. If me and a vet shoot at each other who's going to win? Me with ADV Heavy and ADV weaponry or the Vet with Proto Heavy and Proto weaponry AND gear? In case you missed it earlier, I raged at the fact that I couldn't damage a Vet in Light armor and they shredded my shield/armor with an smg. I have an average of 20 or more kills and 10 or likely less deaths in a game with no Vets fighting people on my level. 5 kills if I'm lucky and 19 or more deaths in games with Vets. Is my "skill" lacking or is this game based on SP?? Skill seems to create confusion, it's better called "ranking" Several facts: 1. There isn't much battles where vet and non-vet mixed together 2. If a player with low ranking from matchmaking's view is actually pretty good, he will move to high ranking pretty fast by winning, so you wouldn't face them in just a few (or maybe one) match after 3. Even in a battle like you're talking about, you still have many low ranking players in the other team for you to counter, and what I'm saying is on your side you also have vets to counter enemy vets. A battle shouldn't be decided solely by one or two vets, it's also about the whole team, so killing other players also contributes to your victory 4. When fighting against higher ranking players, if you lose, it's kind of expected, so you won't lose much ranking, but if you win, your ranking would increase by a lot, so losing a few matches because of vets isn't that much of an issue from ranking point of view. Quick question pretty sure youve been asked already but is ranking determined by sp win/loss ratio kdr or average war points or all the above. Ir is it determined by players killed based of certain numbers such as those listed above



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