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Killer's Coys wrote:

@Cyrus Grevare :
your work is just amazing, take some rest

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Killer's Coys wrote:

@Cyrus Grevare :
Don't add this, players can do that alone, your work is just amazing, take some rest

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DeathwindRising wrote:

so this... will be awesome lol

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1134/5699

Edit:

using the eHP buff at

55 armor and 95 shields, ill have

555 shield hp

219 armor hp

What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?

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CCP Rattati wrote:

The Eristic wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

We would rather cut the ehp buff than the additional slots, we feel it underlines the versatility aspect of the assault, spec for the situation.

An 8th slot doesn't underline versatility, it removes the necessity of choice in suit building, further enables, nay, encourages dual tanking and destroys the lore-appropriate racial alignments the 7-slot reworking was intended to give us. You have to make people make choices, or they'll go the easy route every time. See every FotM ever for evidence. There WILL be 1200+ HP Proto Assaults stomping Pubs (which, btw, will further marginalize Laser weaponry). The Amarr at 3-5 will be able hit 1300 and carry a Boundless CR BEFORE the additional 150 HP buff, and Gal won't be too far behind with greater mobility and built-in reps. Toss in a logi friend and the Assaults are now into Sentinel territory. Even if a suit decides to give up a primary tank slot for a non-HP mod, the additional secondary tank slot makes compensating for it that much easier, making the decision less meaningful. Cut the slot. Make choices matter.

Surely trading a slot for 150 ehp is less tanking in theory, seeing as one slot is at max 135 hp. And those who don't want hp can pick something else, so more choice, right?

If assault become the new FOTM, we will be monitoring the situation, but right now it's everything but the assault. Reiterating, that the ehp is completely up for discussion, let's wait for some protofit FOTM examples that make all other suits useless

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CCP Rattati wrote:

Surely trading a slot for 150 ehp is less tanking in theory, seeing as one slot is at max 135 hp. And those who don't want hp can pick something else, so more choice, right?

If assault become the new FOTM, we will be monitoring the situation, but right now it's everything but the assault. Reiterating, that the ehp is completely up for discussion, let's wait for some protofit FOTM examples that make all other suits useless

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Boot Booter wrote:

DeathwindRising wrote:

so this... will be awesome lol

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1134/5699

Edit:

using the eHP buff at

55 armor and 95 shields, ill have

555 shield hp

219 armor hp

@ killer, again....

Yes I use min assault in every PC. Sometimes I switch to my logi to drop links and whatnot. The min assault is my only proto suit (15 mil sp in weaponry lol )

I belive this fit (the one quoted above) outclasses the Caldari 'assault scout' even before the HP buff. It has much higher regen and more eHP (much more if you try to match cal scouts base regen). Plus with the bonus change for cal scouts it's unlikely we will see many 450 shield ones running amok because they will get slaughtered by other scouts. Which is good.

I'm warning you guys, the HP buff might be over the top. Really the last thing I want to be is OP or FOTM, considering how long I've stuck with my suit, through thick and thin (mostly thin...).

I know everyone hates dual tanking cause its dual tanking and all, but here's a potential pub stomping min assault fit, including the potential HP buff..

~470 shield @ 40 hp/s with delay of 3.5/6
~400 armor @ 10 hp/s
Sprint speed around 8.3 m/s and proto weapon.

That's pretty scarey. Certainly outclasses the proto min commando.

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Killer's Coys
Hey again [:p wrote:

That wasn't me who has written your "quote"

Your minma looks very cool, My calda looks very cool too, but only shield tanking, for me, the +55HP for armor is perfect, it makes a bit HP armor for Calda, nice

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Boot Booter wrote:

Killer's Coys
Hey again [:p wrote:

That wasn't me who has written your "quote"

Your minma looks very cool, My calda looks very cool too, but only shield tanking, for me, the +55HP for armor is perfect, it makes a bit HP armor for Calda, nice

Yes. I know. I used the quoted text as a reference, that's all. .

Sorry for cluttering the thread. I will leave... For now.

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Cat Merc wrote:

I say keep the HP buff and slot buff, tweak after data has been gathered.
That's the beauty of rapid releases, you don't get stuck for months with a broken game.

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Floyd20 Azizora wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

Floyd20 Azizora wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

First of all, I don't look at proto because the majority can't afford proto weapons and suits.

Advanced ScR - 16 PG
Advanced AR - 6 PG

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10 PG difference

Assault A/1-Series - 49 PG
Assault G/1-Series - 47 PG

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2 PG difference

Right there you can tell that the Gallente assault will have a much easier time fitting stuff than the Amarr assault.

Sure, they have differing armor tanks.
Complex Armor Plate - 12 PG
Complex Armor Repairer - 11 PG

So even if Gallente should go for reps while Amarr goes for plates, Amarr still needs more PG because plates cost more PG. And technically Amarr are the better armor tankers, given that they should have more lows than Gallente to put armor mods in. So although the current proposal gives them equal slots, Amarr should be able to fit slightly better armor modules while Gallente can fit slightly better utility.

Why are you trying to throw on complex armor plates and reps on advanced suits?

Because I believe that with max fitting skills, you should be able to have some proto mods. I also only have standard grenades equipped instead of advanced, so there's some further justification.

I actually believe that every suit, including standard, should be able to fit all or most of it's main tank with complex modules, then everything else of the tier equivalent to the suit. I doubt that will break anything as higher tiers will offer more complex modules to be fit; it should actually give players with less SP and ISK a better fighting chance against a full proto suit.

That's how I feel the reward and progression of the skill tree should behave. Anyone can fit all standard modules onto a standard suit, and then you can upgrade some to advanced and then later proto as you level up your skills. Otherwise, I think it's very uninteresting and unrewarding if you need max skills to fit all standard on a standard suit

That don't happen much on any other suit bar heavies(and they are being hit hard to stop all proto adv suits) plus it makes lower grade modules much less worthwhile if you can just fit good amounts of proto gear to your standard suit.

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