I guess you didnt get the memo
cal scout is losing the precision bonus and getting profile and range bonus.

Oh and I didn't mention the inherent stamina advantage Amarr have.

Strafe speed difference would be huge (15%?) in your amarr vs gal comparison.

What is your issue exactly? The CalScout will still be able to scan a long way at very low precision? It just will not be able to do so for minimal investment post-Charlie.
This is a good thing, balance-wise, and only those who are FotM chasers should really complain. The CalScout can still be an effective Scout hunter, unless those Scouts are sacrificing just as much (possibly more) to evade all scans, at which point the Caldari has an advantage over the Amarr where it can have long, long range scans to detect medium/heavy suits while tanking effectively.

The problem lies in the misunderstanding that while Amarr usually have the most low slots, in Dust this has never been the case.

Gallente is always the most low slots
Amarr is always even number of slots with a preference towards lows

Gal Assault should be 2/5 and Keep the Amarr one at 3/4

Cat Merc, is this a bad idea? While yes there will still be those that choose to armor tank the Gallente Assault, I feel that it will work better to allow players that want to armor repair tank, but don't want to use a Gal Logi to do so.

Either that, or we go with the crazy idea of giving the Gallente a big bonus to armor repairers and change up the rest of the assaults to focus on survivability and regen rather than their weapons.

Rattati, we already have the Gallente scout with 2/4 and the Gallente heavy with 1/4 and the Gallente logi with 3/5...having the Gallente assault at 3/4 doesn't fit with that and has encouraged dual tanking the Gal assault. Amarr Logi is currently 3/4, Amarr sentinel is 2/3...Amarr Assault should stay 3/4 to make it fit.
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Everyone needs to agree with how we want each racial style to be like

That should be figured out FIRST before we start proposing changes...okay?

Eh, increasing passive rep might be good.
It's not like we could brick harder than Amarr using it, since they would have one more low slot.

Hi all,

We want to have this formal discussion and get your input. We believe that the community has wanted to have some say on this issue for some time, and now that I am studying this data in detail, some things brush me the wrong way (or my OCD).

Dropsuit Slot Layout

First table is Current, next table is proposed, and third tracks the difference in slots between the two.

We don't need to do any changes to these layouts right now. However, with PG/CPU increases for the Assault class on the horizon, more based on a PG/CPU allotment per slot type, it would be the right timing to swap a high with a low in strategic places, or add missing slots.

The new premise is a single matrix of racial high/low arrangements and then tactical choices of the other slots (EQ, SA, W, G). The proposed matrix is also intended to be more thematically in line with EVE Online racial slots.

Amarr highest number of low slots
Caldari highest number of high slots
Gallente equal number of highs and lows, preferring lows
Minmatar equal number of highs and lows, preferring highs

Moving forward with few changes without changing the whole layout of every dropsuit is certainly on the table as well. The logi sidearm f.ex. There are other "anomalies" that I would love to discuss, such as STD and ADV logi racial differences.

Of course if you see some errors, please let us know.

Have at it and keep it civil and constructive!

speedy, brick-tanked "slayer" Scouts <--- we want fewer of these (and more assaults)

:: hands Pandora's Box ::

^ You sure you wanna open that sh*t?

Changes like this. You better start looking at another dropsuit respec. This is bullshit. I spec into something for a purpose and you remove it.

+1 for saying that Amarr should be buffer tanks.

Shouldn't the Caldari and the Gallente have opposite slot configuration? And shouldn't the Amarr and Minmatar be opposites also?

Cat Merc.

I agree with you, without dual tanking like a scrub (me) the Amarr will be better than the Gal (especially considering the weapon bonus stuff).

So would you agree with keep the slot layout Rattati suggested but with a buff to the Gal assault base armor regen?

If so what would be acceptable number 5 hp/s, 7hp/s?

9hp/s and it's a deal :P

But seriously though, the core of the issue comes from a complete lack of decent high slot modules.
There is no real advantage to having that extra slot.

5hps for freesies? Really?

5hps for freesies? Really?

Hi all,

We want to have this formal discussion and get your input. We believe that the community has wanted to have some say on this issue for some time, and now that I am studying this data in detail, some things brush me the wrong way (or my OCD).

Dropsuit Slot Layout

First table is Current, next table is proposed, and third tracks the difference in slots between the two.

We don't need to do any changes to these layouts right now. However, with PG/CPU increases for the Assault class on the horizon, more based on a PG/CPU allotment per slot type, it would be the right timing to swap a high with a low in strategic places, or add missing slots.

The new premise is a single matrix of racial high/low arrangements and then tactical choices of the other slots (EQ, SA, W, G). The proposed matrix is also intended to be more thematically in line with EVE Online racial slots.

Amarr highest number of low slots
Caldari highest number of high slots
Gallente equal number of highs and lows, preferring lows
Minmatar equal number of highs and lows, preferring highs

Moving forward with few changes without changing the whole layout of every dropsuit is certainly on the table as well. The logi sidearm f.ex. There are other "anomalies" that I would love to discuss, such as STD and ADV logi racial differences.

Of course if you see some errors, please let us know.

Have at it and keep it civil and constructive!

Yeah, IDK Cat, people complained all day long about the "OP" 5hp/s that logi's used to get and allegedly fueled the Gal slayer-logi meta (not saying I agree with that, just saying it was a hot topic).

Obviously the 9hp/s is unreasonable, but a "free" enhanced armor rep (aka old complex) that doesn't cost you any CPU/PG is not worth a low slot? On a faster suit? You're asking for an awful lot, then. I'd like to see the Amarr assault fitting that is so amazing that a Gal assault with an inherent 5 (even 3) armor rep is useless in comparison.

Yeah, IDK Cat, people complained all day long about the "OP" 5hp/s that logi's used to get and allegedly fueled the Gal slayer-logi meta (not saying I agree with that, just saying it was a hot topic).

Obviously the 9hp/s is unreasonable, but a "free" enhanced armor rep (aka old complex) that doesn't cost you any CPU/PG is not worth a low slot? On a faster suit? You're asking for an awful lot, then. I'd like to see the Amarr assault fitting that is so amazing that a Gal assault with an inherent 5 (even 3) armor rep is useless in comparison.

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