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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:38:00 -
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How about lowering std scout equipment to 1 instead of 2. Why should standard scouts have as many equipment slots as standard logi.
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:41:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:
If that works for you great. But a 5 second delay? An 11 second depleted delay? No thanks
Lol, yes, you're right 
You have your shield, but your shield has an amazing delay.... 5 seconds....
and 5 seconds + 7%x4 for depleted : loooooooool
That's strange... the 7% aren't combined
... And, with 1 CPU upgrade, I couldn't fit some shield regulator... so I couldn't be a REAL Caldari...
Strange... more shield, but more time waiting to have our shield back...... grrrr |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:43:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
Caldari highest number of high slots
Minmatar equal number of highs and lows, preferring highs
No... Why do you want to do that ?? Ok, Caldari has the "most-shield-tanking-fit", but it doesN'T NEED to have 5 hight slots... for 2 low... The Minmatar is faster, and with our caldari (yes, I'm caldari assault) we can have a catalyser to become as fast as the minmatar is... AND have an armor repair + armor plate // dampener + reactive plate.... The worst thing is for the Basic and the Advanced one.... 1 low slot ? Are you serious ? IF you want to keep those slots, GIVE a PASSIVE ARMOR REPAIR to Caldari Assaults ! We need repair, you want to remove a low slot, give an armor repair... On my basic, I've 6hp/s and a bit armor... So..... I'll have to remove and haven't any repair ? Joke please.... I love your work, you have made a lot of good things, but that... that's NOT what should be the Caldari Assault... NOT Or, if you want not to change for the basic one, do the same thing like the Gallente STA : 3/1 ADV : 3/2 PRO : 4/3 Please, Rattati, change your table, don't do that... don't do that... As a minmatar assault I want to say this. A 5/2 layout is always what the cal assault should've had. You will be able to achieve over 600 shield and have a recharger as well. You don't need the lows slots. Try out this fit for the cal assault 4x shield extender 1x shield energizer 1x CPU mod 1x reactive It'll be awesome, really. Thanks Rattati for fixing my min slit layout If that works for you great. But a 5 second delay? An 11 second depleted delay? No thanks
That's what regulators are for.
Why dont you try running 2x reg, 4x shield, 1x recharge (after CPU buff)
That suit will have fantastic regen for its health pool
I've beer understood running armor on Cal suits. Shield suits brah
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Francois Sanchez
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:45:00 -
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Hey Rattati I like what you propose, however I noticed a little mistake in the commando table (maybe somebody has spotted it , but I didn't see a post about this), the commando doesn't have a secondary weapon and 2 light weapons, he can replace a light by a secondary, so the number of slots is 7-6-5 (P-A-S) |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:55:00 -
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Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:Well, I'd like a 2/5 layout for Amarr Assault; I don't like that we share a layout with the Gallente Assault; makes the differences in the two suits far less pronounced.
I very much want to keep my logistics sidearm, or I would like my uplink bonus expanded to function until I switch suits, rather than until I die.
That's all for now, I think.
2/5 on Amarr Assault would pretty much kill the Gallente Assault.
You could make a faster, more regenerative and more armored suit than a Gallente Assault.
Unless you move modules from lows to highs, buff damage mods, etc', that would kill the Gallente Assault and cement the Amarr Assault as the superior armor based Assault suit.
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
That's what regulators are for.
Why dont you try running 2x reg, 4x shield, 1x recharge (after CPU buff)
That suit will have fantastic regen for its health pool
I've beer understood running armor on Cal suits. Shield suits brah
That's ok... But need a CPU buf, if the buff isn't enought, the suit will be bad... |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:03:00 -
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Rattati, please shift around module locations at the same time.
It might not seem like a big deal, but trust me when I say this, 5 low slots is EXTREMELY powerful when you consider just how many modules are located in low slots.
You WILL see the Amarr Assault as the #1 Assault suit on the battlefield if they get 2/5 and the modules aren't relocated.
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Boot Booter
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:08:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
That's what regulators are for.
Why dont you try running 2x reg, 4x shield, 1x recharge (after CPU buff)
That suit will have fantastic regen for its health pool
I've beer understood running armor on Cal suits. Shield suits brah
That's ok... But need a CPU buf, if the buff isn't enought, the suit will be bad...
Hey hint for you guys. Whether by intention or not, the depleted delay can be mostly disregarded because it only takes effect when a single damage source (Flux grenade for example) drops your shield to zero. Any subsequent damage will reset delay to regular delay.
But sure fit some regulators if you wish. Oh and by the way my min assault has had this 5/2 slot layout forever and a 6/8 base shield delay. I don't wanna hear you complain about 5/11 delay with 600 shield. I think Caldari philosophy is high shield recharge and not ever letting shields hit zero. Minmatar on the other hand prefers shield regulation at lower shield recharge rates. Yet another reason this slot layout swap makes sense.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
287
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:11:00 -
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That 5 high 4 low Minmatar. I would be in for a 9 slot High Low for each suit
why ccp?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:13:00 -
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BTW Rattati, I'm pretty sure the UI doesn't support 6 low slots.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:16:00 -
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love the ninja min ass buff, and think cal will benefit as well :D
can min suits get their 1 hp/s back again?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:17:00 -
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It's interesting, absolutely, but I have a feeling the disparity in module placement is going to shine like a lightbulb. I have a feeling that a lot of Minmatar Players are going to be hurting for something to put in the high slots if the resources (PG/CPU) are too low as shield/damage modules are usually very very costly.
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:17:00 -
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However....
I think I'll make conclusions after posting how many HP and PG/CPU will have the (Caldari) Assaults
If (for example) I'll get +/-220HP passive armor on my Caldari, I'll love it  |
Boot Booter
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rattati, please shift around module locations at the same time.
It might not seem like a big deal, but trust me when I say this, 5 low slots is EXTREMELY powerful when you consider just how many modules are located in low slots.
You WILL see the Amarr Assault as the #1 Assault suit on the battlefield if they get 2/5 and the modules aren't relocated.
Not necessarily. It depends on their PG limitation. Remember how PG intensive SR are. EWar modules can be mostly ignored on the assault. Remaining modules are fairly PG intensive.
I'd make use of at least 2 good shield extenders on the gal assault to augment the high regen armor.
With that said I see your point. This is why I have advocated a small bonus towards assault regen based on racial preference.
How about...
Caldari = shield recharge/energizer module fitting bonus
Gallente = armor repair module fitting bonus
Minmatar = shield regulator module fitting bonus
Amarr = armor plate fitting bonus? (this one is iffy though)
This would at least solve shield recharge/energizer module fitting concerns for Caldari as well.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:BTW Rattati, I'm pretty sure the UI doesn't support 6 low slots.
I don't think the SDE supports it...
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:45:00 -
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I would be forced to shield tank my Gallente Assault if Amarr had 2/5, because I couldn't compete at all with armor, regenerative or not lol
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:45:00 -
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typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it
I had a feeling that was the case.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it I had a feeling that was the case.
Thanks for pointing it out. Still 3 and 6 is awesome!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it I had a feeling that was the case. Thanks for pointing it out. Still 3 and 6 is awesome!
3 and 6...id love that 
6 complex armor reps+3 complex shields?
Hellz yeah!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11043
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:00:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it I had a feeling that was the case. Thanks for pointing it out. Still 3 and 6 is awesome! 3 and 6...id love that 6 complex armor reps+3 complex shields? Hellz yeah!
6 complex armor reps to repair... what armor?
That's like having 1000hp/s with 100hp lol
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:02:00 -
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Rattati, my mind is blowing up trying to figure out competitive Gal Assault configurations when Amarr Assault has 2/5 slots.
Nothing I can build is competitive, dual tank, armor tank, armor repair, whatever.
And I KNOW how to build armor suits, I have analyzed the ever living crap out of armor since Uprising 1.0 along with Arkena Wyrnspire to create the armor buff thread back before 1.4.
It's really a matter of make high slot utility modules useful, or Gallente Assault will be useless.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:typo in the top table, the real tables didn't have it I had a feeling that was the case. Thanks for pointing it out. Still 3 and 6 is awesome! 3 and 6...id love that 6 complex armor reps+3 complex shields? Hellz yeah! 6 complex armor reps to repair... what armor? That's like having 1000hp/s with 100hp lol
Come on, it'd be pretty badass!!
ok fine, id actually run 1 complex plate, 5 complex reppers
41.25 hp/s
300+ armor
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1448
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rattati, my mind is blowing up trying to figure out competitive Gal Assault configurations when Amarr Assault has 2/5 slots.
Nothing I can build is competitive, dual tank, armor tank, armor repair, whatever.
And I KNOW how to build armor suits, I have analyzed the ever living crap out of armor since Uprising 1.0 along with Arkena Wyrnspire to create the armor buff thread back before 1.4.
It's really a matter of make high slot utility modules useful, or Gallente Assault will be useless.
Damage mod buff would fix that. Make them 3/5/7, and your problem is solved
one shield extender for extra buffer and reaction time, rest are damage mods
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11043
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:06:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Come on, it'd be pretty badass!! ok fine, id actually run 1 complex plate, 5 complex reppers 41.25 hp/s 300+ armor
Would kill that armor before you even get one rep cycle out.
3/3 plate/reps would probably be best all around.
2/4 plate/rep OR rep/plate for more situational fits.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11043
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:07:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rattati, my mind is blowing up trying to figure out competitive Gal Assault configurations when Amarr Assault has 2/5 slots.
Nothing I can build is competitive, dual tank, armor tank, armor repair, whatever.
And I KNOW how to build armor suits, I have analyzed the ever living crap out of armor since Uprising 1.0 along with Arkena Wyrnspire to create the armor buff thread back before 1.4.
It's really a matter of make high slot utility modules useful, or Gallente Assault will be useless. Damage mod buff would fix that. Make them 3/5/7, and your problem is solved one shield extender for extra buffer and reaction time, rest are damage mods
Due to stacking penalties, it would not solve anything.
Amarr can fit one extender, one damage mod, and boom.
Almost as effective in high slots, but VASTLY superior in low slots.
We're talking an extra 9.375hp/s, 145HP, 1m/s speed, a damp, etc'.
All of these or huge bonuses, when 5% damage in comparison is... not.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rattati, my mind is blowing up trying to figure out competitive Gal Assault configurations when Amarr Assault has 2/5 slots.
Nothing I can build is competitive, dual tank, armor tank, armor repair, whatever.
And I KNOW how to build armor suits, I have analyzed the ever living crap out of armor since Uprising 1.0 along with Arkena Wyrnspire to create the armor buff thread back before 1.4.
It's really a matter of make high slot utility modules useful, or Gallente Assault will be useless.
I think we need to buff dmg mods a bit.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:09:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rattati, my mind is blowing up trying to figure out competitive Gal Assault configurations when Amarr Assault has 2/5 slots.
Nothing I can build is competitive, dual tank, armor tank, armor repair, whatever.
And I KNOW how to build armor suits, I have analyzed the ever living crap out of armor since Uprising 1.0 along with Arkena Wyrnspire to create the armor buff thread back before 1.4.
It's really a matter of make high slot utility modules useful, or Gallente Assault will be useless. I think we need to buff dmg mods a bit.
Unless you return them to the 10% of the old days, I don't think that would be enough.
Look above.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:24:00 -
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Move speed needs to be a faster as well when comparing Amarr and Gallente. Especially considering Amarr have lower base.
We've needed more viable high shields for armor tankers for a long time, that is certainly a problem.
Starting to make me wonder if Kin Cats should, in fact, be a high slot module.... Shield tankers shouldn't really want it and Minnie suits could stack kin cats and shield regs more viably for better speed tanking.
In that case, with buffed damage mods and high slot codebreakers... There could be a place for 3/4 and 2/5.
Also, high base armor repair on Gallente assault could make them quite viable. Changing the Scout gk.0 to 1hp/s and the Assault gk.0 to 3 hp/s could make things very interesting as well. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:25:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Move speed needs to be considered as well when comparing Amarr and Gallente. Especially considering Amarr have lower base.
We've needed more viable high shields for armor tankers for a long time, that is certainly a problem.
Starting to make me wonder if Kin Cats should, in fact, be a high slot module.... Shield tankers shouldn't really want it and Minnie suits could stack kin cats and shield regs more viably for better speed tanking.
In that case, with buffed damage mods and high slot codebreakers... There could be a place for 3/4 and 2/5.
Also, high base armor repair on Gallente assault could make them quite viable. Changing the Scout gk.0 to 1hp/s and the Assault gk.0 to 3 hp/s could make things very interesting as well.
Meh, that extra HP/s won't make a difference now.
Back when reppers were 6.25hp/s per, it would be huge, but now it's not so hot.
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