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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:17:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:RKKR wrote:This mean it will even be more easier for your rep tool to lock-on to that CRU behind your ally who is in emergency need of reps  . Most. Annoying. Thing. Ever. Zaria Min Deir wrote:
I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day
I honestly disagree. If rep tools worked through walls and hills and stuff, for instance, sure, but at those ranges? Good luck keeping a line of sight long enough to lock on, let alone do any good.
^this. Also, considering that have the time the blue is right in front of me and I have to weave back and forth to get the damn thing to register half the time.
RKKR wrote:
In open fields...not exactly the place where I want to be with a minmatar logi.
Yep. Considering I'm 3 shotted across the map by RRs. I'm not going to be making much use of that 'longer' range. I use the core focused tool for this reason. It's shorter range but honestly, the longer range isn't going to help me much especially when us infantry are forced into buildings to avoid tanks. If my reps can't bend, I won't be using that range.
unless for some strange reason I wanted to be hilarious and rep a DS in the sky. that might be fun. [/quote]
All of this^
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bamaboy27z
The Lionheart Coalition
2
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:18:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Getting a bonus against "splash damage" on the other hand could be even more useful. That would expand the definition to splash damage from all grenades, forge guns, rail turrets, plasma cannons, etc. On the flip side, a direct hit would still score 100% damage for all weapons, including explosives. This would be my preference because it helps us resist all sorts of area-denial attacks but still keeps us wary of the direct damage caused by these weapons.
It's splash damage. I'll change the text description as it seems to have caused more confusion than I'd have expected.[/quote]
Does that include, or exclude, damage from remote explosives? There isnt really a "direct hit" with them. Nor is there one with non-fused grenades.
Well, I suppose there COULD be a direct hit... if you start allowing RE's to be sticky on heavy suits.
It would seem to be a popular request... 
"tag you're it!"
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It's still considered as splash damage.[/quote]
So warbarge strikes are splash too?[/quote]
Scammer, go away, you suck.
jerrmy12 kahoalii is a lying, scamming douche.
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
6
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:25:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus.
Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. ) |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
376
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:28:00 -
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bamaboy27z wrote:[quote=jerrmy12 kahoalii] Scammer, go away, you suck. jerrmy12 kahoalii is a lying, scamming douche. Link 1Link 2Link 3sorry thing to do man
Welcome to new eden
Closed beta vet
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
6
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:31:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Logibro just dropped the Assault Suit stats in IRC:
All Assault get +2% to light weapon RoF bonus per level.
Caldari Assault: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level.
Gallente Assault: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level.
Minmatar Assault: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level.
Amarr Assault: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level.
Min Assault bonus should be shield regulator or recharge - in line with their speed-centric tech (and corresponding to Amarr Assault bonus.) |
bamaboy27z
The Lionheart Coalition
2
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:36:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:bamaboy27z wrote:[quote=jerrmy12 kahoalii] Scammer, go away, you suck. jerrmy12 kahoalii is a lying, scamming douche. Link 1Link 2Link 3sorry thing to do man Welcome to new eden
You can say that all you want still doesnt excuse you from being a douche. That being said im done talking to you and let me say it for you so you dont have to reply... Welcome to new eden
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
313
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:47:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:CCP Remnant wrote:Goric Rumis wrote:
Getting a bonus against "splash damage" on the other hand could be even more useful. That would expand the definition to splash damage from all grenades, forge guns, rail turrets, plasma cannons, etc. On the flip side, a direct hit would still score 100% damage for all weapons, including explosives. This would be my preference because it helps us resist all sorts of area-denial attacks but still keeps us wary of the direct damage caused by these weapons.
It's splash damage. I'll change the text description as it seems to have caused more confusion than I'd have expected. Does that include, or exclude, damage from remote explosives? There isnt really a "direct hit" with them. Nor is there one with non-fused grenades. Well, I suppose there COULD be a direct hit... if you start allowing RE's to be sticky on heavy suits. It would seem to be a popular request... "tag you're it!" It's still considered as splash damage.
Thanks for the clarification. I find this to be a really interesting mechanism. More of an ability to stand and deliver, whether you're fighting infantry with blast weapons or vehicles with missile turrets. Well done.
The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
66
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:00:00 -
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bogeyman m wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. )
I'm not saying your wrong about the lock on mechanisms of the rep tools, but range defiantly could help. Imagine being able to rep your heavies from behind cover about 25 to 30 meters away where they can dodge and weave and not worry about you getting hit from the stray bullets. Also that range and bonus to reps might pose some really good results to vehicle reaping.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
21
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:05:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:bogeyman m wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. ) I'm not saying your wrong about the lock on mechanisms of the rep tools, but range defiantly could help. Imagine being able to rep your heavies from behind cover about 25 to 30 meters away where they can dodge and weave and not worry about you getting hit from the stray bullets. Also that range and bonus to reps might pose some really good results to vehicle reaping.
I think for most people, the bonus is a nice idea but a lot of us are sad to see the hacking speed go from the Minmatar logistics. I feel that if the logi suit doesn't get the bonus then the scout or light suit should.
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
7
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:28:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:bogeyman m wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. ) I'm not saying your wrong about the lock on mechanisms of the rep tools, but range defiantly could help. Imagine being able to rep your heavies from behind cover about 25 to 30 meters away where they can dodge and weave and not worry about you getting hit from the stray bullets. Also that range and bonus to reps might pose some really good results to vehicle reaping.
Additional range is marvellous, as long as you have line of sight... Once that heavy/assault/commando/etc takes a corner or crosses a hill, your repair stops. |
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
367
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Posted - 2014.01.15 12:30:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:bogeyman m wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. ) I'm not saying your wrong about the lock on mechanisms of the rep tools, but range defiantly could help. Imagine being able to rep your heavies from behind cover about 25 to 30 meters away where they can dodge and weave and not worry about you getting hit from the stray bullets. Also that range and bonus to reps might pose some really good results to vehicle reaping.
For most of us min logis its simply because that extra range isn't going to help much. I have the core focused rep tool and it has short range but honestly when I connect, I don't have to be there long before I can jump back in cover, scan or help my team in any other way. If I needed range, I could always scale back to the core rep tool (not the focused) with 21 distance range. That range is honestly plenty. Having longer range means that:
- I can heal my assault for about 3 more secs before he still outruns me since I can't run and heal at the same time
- I'm even more likely to get caught healing something I don't mean to heal because there are many more objects in my way to attach to
- People are using this example with the idea that I have that kind of open space to connect with. I for one never want to be stuck out in the wide open with my golden lasso of love announcing to everyone that I'm there and btw so is my greenberry, come gun us down with your RR or tank. Otherwise, I'm in a building where everyone is rushing around corners and cover which doesn't give me any benefits for 'distance'.
The bonus to reps I'm actually all for. I think my core focused rep tool might be beastly again.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:42:00 -
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[/quote]Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame?
Lemme get this straight... you want sympathy about how long it takes to get fully healed.. Because you have MORE HP THAN ANYTHING ELSE except a heavy??? yeahhhhhno. no sympathy. As far as 2.5 million SP.. yeah so what? That goes for all proto suits. Same for scouts. and scouts get even LESS slots. So again, no sympathy there. Quote:
Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you,
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing? Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi. So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
What about Minmatar Logis? Bricked out at Proto it has less HP than most Proto assaults. 4 equipment slots means its more about team support than anything. Hack bonus means its directed at multitasking in PCs where scouts are few and far between. When was the last time you saw Mini logis proto stomping?
All thisbeing said, I'm happy about my fellow minmatarlogis standing up and explaining how we want to keep a bonus that isn't op, and has never been a cause for complaint by other players. How about we keep our hacking bonus instead of the range bonus, and you can still buff the rep tool?
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
369
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:01:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame?
Lemme get this straight... you want sympathy about how long it takes to get fully healed.. Because you have MORE HP THAN ANYTHING ELSE except a heavy??? yeahhhhhno. no sympathy. As far as 2.5 million SP.. yeah so what? That goes for all proto suits. Same for scouts. and scouts get even LESS slots. So again, no sympathy there. Quote:
Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you,
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing? Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi. So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
No offense to your corp, but that sounds more like a recruiting problem to me. I've seen tons of support logis on the field and personally my corp assaults run with an injector which makes me life so easy. I basically rep all day. Post something on your recruitment board and get some good logis.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
741
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:26:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing?
Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi.
So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
No offense to your corp, but that sounds more like a recruiting problem to me. I've seen tons of support logis on the field and personally my corp assaults run with an injector which makes me life so easy. I basically rep all day. Post something on your recruitment board and get some good logis.
Believe it or not, not everyone runs around with their corp buddies in full squads all day.
The majority of people, in fact, do not do so, judging by the basic team makeup of most battles I'm in.
This game is related to EVE, but it is not EVE. It isnt all about the corp you are in. For most people, its just about running around trying to have fun.
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Erobthedude
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:38:00 -
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Shouldn't the Minmitar scout benefit from having a reduced scan profile so that we can get close enough to benefit from an increase in melee and nova knife damage? Or will scout suits be changed to have an innate lower scan profile? |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1246
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:40:00 -
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Erobthedude wrote:Shouldn't the Minmitar scout benefit from having a reduced scan profile so that we can get close enough to benefit from an increase in melee and nova knife damage? Or will scout suits be changed to have an innate lower scan profile?
Yes, they will. The current profile they are considering is 35dB.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Erobthedude
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:47:00 -
[647] - Quote
Krom Ganesh wrote:Erobthedude wrote:Shouldn't the Minmitar scout benefit from having a reduced scan profile so that we can get close enough to benefit from an increase in melee and nova knife damage? Or will scout suits be changed to have an innate lower scan profile? Yes, they will. The current profile they are considering is 35dB.
Sweet, thanks. I guess the biggest worry is Gallente logis with high tier scanners, but hopefully they will be rare. I also wonder if CCP will ever install a bonus reducing damage received from melee/NK? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2590
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:49:00 -
[648] - Quote
Erobthedude wrote:... I guess the biggest worry is Gallente logis with high tier scanners, but hopefully they will be rare. ...
That's real funny right there. Yup.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1973
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:09:00 -
[649] - Quote
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that Dust equipment with prices in Eve being listed in stations with the possibility of buying them...? |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
371
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:09:00 -
[650] - Quote
Quil Evrything wrote:lee corwood wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing?
Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi.
So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
No offense to your corp, but that sounds more like a recruiting problem to me. I've seen tons of support logis on the field and personally my corp assaults run with an injector which makes me life so easy. I basically rep all day. Post something on your recruitment board and get some good logis. Believe it or not, not everyone runs around with their corp buddies in full squads all day. The majority of people, in fact, do not do so, judging by the basic team makeup of most battles I'm in. This game is related to EVE, but it is not EVE. It isn't all about the corp you are in. For most people, its just about running around trying to have fun.
I hear you. I love my alliance but have several channels I've been invited to and I play the game to have fun. My kdr is proof positive of that. I have silly suits just because. However you're saying Logis as a whole should be punished because got forbid we kill something once in a while. I hate slayer logis as much as the rest of us, but the "change" hits even those of us that run as 100% support. I don't think taking away slots was the right way to go. Should have just made it impossible to stack dmg mods or even a bigger penalty.
But then again, why should I care at all when the balance in this game if just freaking hilarious. A 2 year old could balance this game better.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2591
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:10:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Are my eyes deceiving me or is that Dust equipment with prices in Eve being listed in stations with the possibility of buying them...?
They show up but you can't actually buy them through EVE. It pops up some message that I don't remember.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Maikyl Metsar
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
79
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:11:00 -
[652] - Quote
Beren Hurin wrote:Are my eyes deceiving me or is that Dust equipment with prices in Eve being listed in stations with the possibility of buying them...?
It's been like that for a while in EVE online, you can't buy anything but you can see them all listed. |
Erobthedude
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:21:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Erobthedude wrote:... I guess the biggest worry is Gallente logis with high tier scanners, but hopefully they will be rare. ... That's real funny right there. Yup.
...the respec! 
"Dear Lord, without you we are butt dust."
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
658
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:25:00 -
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Erobthedude wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Erobthedude wrote:... I guess the biggest worry is Gallente logis with high tier scanners, but hopefully they will be rare. ... That's real funny right there. Yup. ...the respec!
Well any snipers worth their weight now have a prime directive.
On the Ion Pistol - similar then to the ME Arc Pistol in mechanics?
In your blind spot
No Quid Pro Quo
Line in the Sand
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
743
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:30:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:
I hear you. I love my alliance but have several channels I've been invited to and I play the game to have fun. My kdr is proof positive of that. I have silly suits just because. However you're saying Logis as a whole should be punished because got forbid we kill something once in a while. .
You're coming from "logis have this now, so taking it away is punishment".
That's a misguided viewpoint.
It's not "being punished", its "taking away something they never should have had to begin with".
Logis should never, never NEVER have had the ability to have more tank than an assault.
Never. No excuses, no exceptions.
Any claim you may make about "but but logi..." would go double for the assault class.
So no. Just no.
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
681
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:47:00 -
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Oh boy i cant wait to be a minnie logi with that kind of healing nobody will die on my watch ! |
Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
110
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:49:00 -
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Going to call it, watch people complain about assaults tanking too much. It is a neverending cycle of QQ'ing.
I have been agreeing with and against you, but just to stay adamant in one viewpoint is just as guilty.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
276
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:02:00 -
[658] - Quote
Quil Evrything wrote:lee corwood wrote:
I hear you. I love my alliance but have several channels I've been invited to and I play the game to have fun. My kdr is proof positive of that. I have silly suits just because. However you're saying Logis as a whole should be punished because got forbid we kill something once in a while. .
You're coming from "logis have this now, so taking it away is punishment". That's a misguided viewpoint. It's not "being punished", its "taking away something they never should have had to begin with". Logis should never, never NEVER have had the ability to have more tank than an assault. Never. No excuses, no exceptions. Any claim you may make about "but but logi..." would go double for the assault class. So no. Just no.
So.....Logis are holdings equipements that cost a HELL of a price (Once fitted 3 equipements is almost 60.000-70000 ISK...JUST EQUIPEMENTS.)
But should die in 2 bullet ?
Well you want someone to help you right ?
But how will be supposed to do it while he wil die first everytime ?
Less life means : Focused first to get kills.
How are we supposed to help the assaulters and heavies if ennemies shoots US first ?
That's already what happen....
We repair AND tank damage for you.
YOU'RE supposed to take bullets not us.
Assault is NOT supposed to be a "More hp more damage speeder more stamina more EVERYTHING".
Like Logi should NOT be able to fit damagers.
But i ABSOLUTELY don't see why they should have even less hp. 50 less base hp seems already good for me.
Less damage YES.
Less life ? Well we already have 50 less base hp. even less will be nasty.
We're not asking more life.
We just ask some hp regen.
And don't tell me "fit armor repair" because actually they are broken and pretty useless. These time with the actual TTK even with 13hp/s you die so fast than they dont have the time to even play a role.
Single burst fire from anywhere or lost bullets take you down so fast......
Anyway to me logi just SHOULD get their PG/CPU r+¬duction to equipements.
Then have less base PG/CPU (still higher than assaulters but less than now).
Unable to fit damagers.
Same lower base stats than assault (like now)
And you have balanced logi unable to play as assaulters but able to help teamates. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:07:00 -
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**** ya, ion pistol is coming. Ahh if only it had come a little sooner, I might not have skilled all the way into scramblers pistols. I don't regret that though scramblers are a lot of fun. It's going to be a while though before I'll be able to get to skilling IPs though, what with cloaks and the Gal heavy soon to be upon us as well.  
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Please help me save the Gal scout!:
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
276
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:09:00 -
[660] - Quote
Nah i think i will still love Scramblers Pistols ^^ |
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