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Dj grammer
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:27:00 -
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This might be the hardest thing I ever had to say. I might stop being a LogiBro. Keyword Might. Here are my reasons why:
1.) I used the natural repair bonus Logistics suits had to ensure I was in good condition while repairing others. This argument can be counted by repairing nano hives along with the new bonus. However the reduction in CPU/PG cost that everyone is predicting could hurt overall EHP as well as laying down cover fire for friendlies.
2.) I understand everything is not set in stone but the Assault bonus looks good, especially the Gallente Assault. On my MinLogi I have more armor than shield eight times out of ten. I know that my MinLogi gets a repair tool bonus which makes heavies happy along with other armor tankers. But a Logi should be self-sustaining after healing others.
3.) Being a LogiBro is insanely expensive in both Skill Points and ISK cost. Counting all Modules, dropsuits, and equipment that builds up a logi suit, the cost builds up fast and can take its toll on any unsuspecting player dying too much.
Who knows, maybe I'm looking way too much in this and should just sit back and enjoy the ride for now. When 1.8 drops and I see the bonus, I would make the decision on becoming a LogiBro once more or just drop it overall.
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Dj grammer
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Posted - 2014.01.13 09:32:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:This might be the hardest thing I ever had to say. I might stop being a LogiBro. Keyword Might. Here are my reasons why:
1.) I used the natural repair bonus Logistics suits had to ensure I was in good condition while repairing others. This argument can be counted by repairing nano hives along with the new bonus.
oh, woe is me.... if only they had a MODULE, that could automatically repair a suit? Oh wait, they do have one. So you'll lose a Whole Slot. Such a tragedy... when you should really be losing TWO slots, to put you on par with normal medium frame slot count. Quote:However the reduction in CPU/PG cost that everyone is predicting could hurt overall EHP
Which would mean logis would have to actually use cover, rather than act like a tank, walking through the middle of battle without worries. How.. terrible and unreasonable? Lame excuses, "bro".
I do not make excuses "bro". I did forget about the armor repper didn't I? SO instead of trying to insult someone try to hear out reason for a change. Chill off the trollaid or hateraid you have been sipping on for a second?
1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame? That's what I am getting from your reply. In that case every suit would be that way. Almost like you want it the COD way.
For me, putting on an armor repper now is not a problem even in the future of things. Some chose not to use them, it's their choice. Also I like how you point out we act as a tank. Dude, I use more cover than anything because I know I AM NOT GODLIKE AND SHOULDN'T HAVE IT EASY!! Example, look at people running Light weapons on Heavy suits giving true heavy players a bad name. Cover is to everyone's advantage, it's the most basic thing anyone should pick up on. Logis that tank tend to be your Logi assaults who do nothing but help themselves. SO before accusing anyone of being a Logi Assault, think back and recall a true LogiBro actually helped you out. Also recall when Assaults were using Caldari Logistics as assault suits.
One question I would like to ask you is have you actually played in a Logistics drop suit? I can tell you from running it for 7 months It is not easy. I have to stay around my squad 24/7 as if I am stalking them. I wish I was a tank and could "skip to my lou" in the middle of the battlefield. But I am wiser than that, all i have is one weapon, tons of equipment to help my squad out, and modules to help me stay in the fight. I must also decide to revive people or not which gets on my nerves more than anything. Anyone who have not ran Logistics or the medic suit tends to think we can get them up in the middle of a fire fight. No we would first get rid of the problem aka kill then revive you.
Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you, no one can repair you, and you lose ISK quickly. If that's how you want it in the near future, I hope you yourself are a tank at that time.
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Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
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Dj grammer
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:24:00 -
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Agrios Endendros wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame?
Lemme get this straight... you want sympathy about how long it takes to get fully healed.. Because you have MORE HP THAN ANYTHING ELSE except a heavy??? yeahhhhhno. no sympathy. As far as 2.5 million SP.. yeah so what? That goes for all proto suits. Same for scouts. and scouts get even LESS slots. So again, no sympathy there. Quote:
Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you,
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing? Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi. So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change". Logi does not have to equal medic to do their job. Uplinks, scans, and hives are all important, too
+1 on that one
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Posted - 2014.01.14 18:29:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
That guy is right especially if you partake in PC Battles. Sometimes we do not have to be equivalent to being a medic (contradicting myself). For you, whatever drop suit you run Quil, you would like to be in the action all the time. We the logis will carry those uplinks for ya to spawn on if no one revived you.
You're sounding like mr. Henry Ford; "[you can run any dropsuit you like, so long as its a medium frame]"  No, I DONT want to be in the action all the time. I run scout. And I drop uplinks myself, thanks very much.
The so as long as if it is a Ford Model T quote I think? Nice one +1
I was not trying to say run a med suit all the time (so that is what you were saying the whole time . Would've been easier if I just asked where you were coming from ). But with each update if seems saturated to medium suits. Scouts been nerf so many time that is not a joke. As said before they need more of a buff than another ninja nerf. With the 1.8 update we shall see if CCP heard the pleas of scout users. And heavy users tend to fluctuate between weapons.
If you want to know how much I tank here you go:
Minmatar Logi Advance: 330 (complex) shield/ 306 (basic) armor for when I am scanning and/or dropping uplinks or 220 (enhanced) shield/ 550 (enhanced) armor when I become a Heavy's BFF or stalker. I cannot afford to run out in the open battlefield. even at 770 EHP I feel weak. I know a while back I said there isn't a severe need to run more than 600 EHP on medium suit and I countered myself . As far as proto goes, I run it little to none due to how expensive they are.
But lets focus on the scout. You guys need a major buff As of how CCP will approach this is beyond me. Low EHP, CPU, and PG? And you barely have room to fix on CPU/PG extenders or they're just pointless to even think about when a scout. I would say give you guys a buff in CPU and PG to see if that helps.
Medium suit wise, it's the most used suit in the game. From the time you start you were using medium suits until someone said or you said try this out. CCP should make it to where you have infinite starter suits of all 3 frames not just the one.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
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Dj grammer
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:49:00 -
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Going to call it, watch people complain about assaults tanking too much. It is a neverending cycle of QQ'ing.
I have been agreeing with and against you, but just to stay adamant in one viewpoint is just as guilty.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 06:22:00 -
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well still no confirmation on the assault/logistics suits?
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Posted - 2014.01.27 06:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As of Sunday 1/27/2014
All 1.8 skills have been removed and replaced with 1.7 skills
Do not know if wolf is telling the truth or just trolling
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As of Sunday 1/27/2014
All 1.8 skills have been removed and replaced with 1.7 skills Either they took down the old proposed skills so they can post new proposed skills... or what we thought was destined for 1.8 is not getting here until 1.9 or even 2.0... I have a sinking feeling that it is the latter... goddamn it...
WOW just realized that he put down As of Sunday 01/27/2014
The 27th was a Monday.......... lol
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Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
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