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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:57:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I was wondering how long it would take for you guys to find these on Sisi.
Just remember to have patience, and keep your magic crystal ball close by at all times. These numbers are not necessarily final.
On another note, the Gallente Heavy is looking pretty.
For the love of Dust... please change the Gallente Logi scanner precession bonus to something else.
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2397
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:58:00 -
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Fitznasty wrote:This is going to increase the amount of cal.logo assaults fyi. Increase on self rep hives. GG. All sorts if good now... just you wait.
Then my Flux Grenade vending machine business concept will be a success!
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1301
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:59:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Not easy enough. I'm testing fittings right now, and I have to cut both my repair tool and injector down to basic just to fit enhanced uplinks, even after the bonus, which will only yeild me a total of +3 PG. Not only do I have to sacrifice my enhanced equipment, but my sidearm has to go as well. What exactly is the point of the Amarr Logi again?
The worst part is, I don't even like using uplinks... They're so boring, just like hives. I would rather have the Minmatar Logi bonus any day. You run equipment to support your teammates?  So what Uplink gets you the +3 PG? And is that with the Advanced or Prototype Amarr Logi?
Advanced Logi (what I use 99.99% of the time). I'm sure the Proto Logi will be easier to fit, but I don't want to lose 100+K Isk every time I die.
Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // Hello, world!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2071
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:08:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously?
If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Also 12 pages and nobody noticed the other new thing?
Bolt Pistol? MagSec SMG? I can't login to Sisi until they fix the Mac patch.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Gunner Nightingale
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
759
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:12:00 -
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See this is the kind of dumbshit that happens when IMPs and others stop bashing CCP devs on forums and IRC.
#InTelcWeTrust.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4004
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:13:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them?
I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus.
I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about.
You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field?
Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:14:00 -
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ABOUT ******* TIME!
MINMATAR HEAVY/COMMANDO FTW
I really hope CCP brings back the old bonuses for the suits as like a proficiency skill, but I actually like these bonuses better. It means that I can save cpu/pg on my logi suit with my equipment, and then use the extra space for better modules and weapons.
The removal of the armor repair bonus though :/
Links:
List of Most Important Threads
I make logistics videos!
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
55
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:14:00 -
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So much stuff...
With so many changes which could eventually happen, I wonder if all the (already) existing armors' slots will be changed...
On a side note, I see the Assault Armors will most likely become totally useless with all the Commandos swarming everywhere.
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9721
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:16:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus.
It definitely sucks for people who skilled all the way up in hacking and ignored reps, only to have their bonuses flipped around and ripped out from under them.
Not all of us are vets with millions of SP
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9721
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:17:00 -
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CCP LogiBro keeps saying something about Assault suits on IRC, someone should probably take a look at those.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2394
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:24:00 -
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I do enjoy the fact that CPM didn't find out about all this stuff until it was posted publicly with no chances in prior discussion.
CCP Shanghai seems dead set on developing in a black box. CCP can talk about transparency all they want, but until the developers responsible for the moment-to-moment gameplay actually bother having real discussions with the CPM and the community the talk of transparency is nothing but words.
I think one thing is clear though from these proposed skill changes etc. If significant changes like this were to occur a full respec for everyone needs to be done without question.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
811
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:26:00 -
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All of the Logi Bonuses go well with the lore and seem pretty decent except the Gallente(but that's only if they don't change the Scanners at all). Amarr can trample over people while pulling out their slave-trade ultra uplinks. Sure they're slow but you spawn in faster than with Scouts who have uplinks. Plus it adds to their warfare-style of stampede. Minmatar get their hacking bonus taken away but get a powerful rep bonus which makes sense, since they're more about repairing(duck-taping) and mobility. Caldari...>_>...They can have Nanohives on their Railgun guys and allow them to never run out of ammo/be damn near indestructable.
Also Commando Buffs to possibly give them the best DPS? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130609
Dat Commando 6 Might Become Dat Commando 7.
 I'm still waiting on the Scouts and I hope that they're getting the buffs I'm thinking about. Minmatar with hacking bonus and Gallente and Caldari with Passive Scans and Passive Profile Dampening bonus(no favored order). I don't know what the Amarr could get but I hope it's awesome as well.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Saxbrin Shain
Ivory Vanguard
170
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:29:00 -
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Logibro just dropped the Assault Suit stats in IRC:
All Assault get +2% to light weapon RoF bonus per level.
Caldari Assault: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level.
Gallente Assault: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level.
Minmatar Assault: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level.
Amarr Assault: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level.
IMMORTALS; From the Sands to the Stars
We fight until we die.
Then we fight some more.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
4093
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:30:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Logibro just dropped the Assault stats in IRC:
All Assault get +2% to light weapon RoF bonus per level.
Caldari Assault: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level.
Gallente Assault: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level.
Minmatar Assault: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level.
Amarr Assault: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level.
Stats you were all slow on pulling from Sisi! I'm disappointed in all of you. 
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:32:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I do enjoy the fact that CPM didn't find out about all this stuff until it was posted publicly with no chances in prior discussion.
CCP Shanghai seems dead set on developing in a black box. CCP can talk about transparency all they want, but until the developers responsible for the moment-to-moment gameplay actually bother having real discussions with the CPM and the community the talk of transparency is nothing but words.
I think one thing is clear though from these proposed skill changes etc. If significant changes like this were to occur a full respec for everyone needs to be done without question.
I 90% agree but I am a douche about refunding SP.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:33:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Saxbrin Shain wrote:Logibro just dropped the Assault stats in IRC:
All Assault get +2% to light weapon RoF bonus per level.
Caldari Assault: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level.
Gallente Assault: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level.
Minmatar Assault: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level.
Amarr Assault: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level. Stats you were all slow on pulling from Sisi! I'm disappointed in all of you.
I'm more disappointed in myself for wondering if those were the current numbers.
#notassault
#notpayingattention
#notonps3
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
5329
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:34:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I do enjoy the fact that CPM didn't find out about all this stuff until it was posted publicly with no chances in prior discussion.
CCP Shanghai seems dead set on developing in a black box. CCP can talk about transparency all they want, but until the developers responsible for the moment-to-moment gameplay actually bother having real discussions with the CPM and the community the talk of transparency is nothing but words.
I think one thing is clear though from these proposed skill changes etc. If significant changes like this were to occur a full respec for everyone needs to be done without question.
Seriously? I'd think that something like this would've at least been mentioned to you guys... You guys should probably make another statement like you did with the State of Affairs thread. Things don't seem to be getting any better.
As for the bonuses, I like 'em all, but I question the sentinel racial bonuses - they seem oddly specific. I would've preferred a blanket 2% light weapons resistance rather than two specific types of weapons.
Never forget
How to fix the Logi
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2398
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:34:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I do enjoy the fact that CPM didn't find out about all this stuff until it was posted publicly with no chances in prior discussion.
CCP Shanghai seems dead set on developing in a black box. CCP can talk about transparency all they want, but until the developers responsible for the moment-to-moment gameplay actually bother having real discussions with the CPM and the community the talk of transparency is nothing but words.
I think one thing is clear though from these proposed skill changes etc. If significant changes like this were to occur a full respec for everyone needs to be done without question. I 90% agree but I am a douche about refunding SP.
Honestly, I don't see CCP having a choice in the matter. Right now they should start planning on how to implement a global respec (optional or otherwise) and start figuring out how they will message it.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1301
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:36:00 -
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CCP Logibro IRC." All Assault get +2% to light weapon RoF bonus per level. Caldari Assault: +5% to HP bonus of shield extender modules per level. Gallente Assault: +5% to HP bonus of armor plate modules per level. Minmatar Assault: +5% to damage bonus of damage modifier modules per level. Amarr Assault: +5% to repair rate of armor repair modules per level."
He also said that these aren't set in stone yet, but you should know.
Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // Hello, world!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
961
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:36:00 -
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I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Aisha Ctarl
Ctarl - Ctarl Empire
2698
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:40:00 -
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The new Amarr and Gallente assault bonuses should be flipped.
Amarr should get the +5% to armor plates and Gallente should get the +5% to armor reps so the bonuses are in line with the EVE lore.
I'm not complaining about +5% to armor reps though, it just doesn't line up with EVE.
Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
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The Final Fantasy
DETHDEALERS
Public Disorder.
17
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:42:00 -
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So amarr logi been made into wanabe scouts?
imo gallente and amarr logi bonus should be given to their scout versions
amarr logi only has 3 equipment slots and to be useful we'll need to sacrifice 1equiptment slot making us have 2
so we can never run the 3 main logi equips(I run my amarr logi like a real logi should not some ass logi)
its bad enough that every 1spam uplinks but now you'll be making a official uplink spamming role. |
Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:42:00 -
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George Moros wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE. Why would that be a fail? It's perfectly logical that racial dropsuits have bonuses to their respective racial weapons/equipment. EVE has that approach from day one, and I suspect DUST didn't have it only because CCP didn't release all racial stuff from day one (as it should).
Repair rate is a **** bonus for min Logi considering their suits are made for shield tanking..
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
961
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:45:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Repair rate is a **** bonus for min Logi considering their suits are made for shield tanking..
Since when could logi suits repair themselves? It makes a ton of sense to have a shield logi, which mostly auto-regens, repairing the armor on an armor heavy, which can't self-regen.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2401
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:46:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits.
Sorry, but you are wrong. If what is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change then CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:48:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits. Sorry, but you are wrong. What is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change that CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service.
I disagree. A minor 5-10% bonus on this or that per level, is the sort of thing that changes with EVE frequently, and EVE doesn't get a respec every time their ship got re-tiered. If so, we'd have gotten five respecs in the last two years. These sorts of changes will ALWAYS happen in an MMO, because balance and redesign will ALWAYS happen.
The Minmatar Logistics suit, and Amarr Heavy suit are both still functional suits, that have been adjusted due to new content. This happens often, and will continue to happen in perpetuity, even after you consider the game "complete". Note the massive ship rebalancing project EVE is undertaking, that offers no respecs. People can continue to use the suits they have skills for, and invest new skill points in new suits if they're so inclined to branch out.
Respec is one of the things powering Fit Of The Month behavior, it's time to kill it.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
5332
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:49:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits. Sorry, but you are wrong. What is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change that CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service.
Normally I'm against all forms of respecs (and if you remember, I used to kill a cat for every thread), but these kinds of changes warrant nothing less than an infantry respec (tankers got theirs), or a full global one.
Never forget
How to fix the Logi
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2035
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:50:00 -
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Have to kinda agree with the respecs. Logis getting new roles and heavys could finally pick their race which they originally wanted to play. However i would like to know if there are bonuses for the basic frame suits.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9722
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:51:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits. Sorry, but you are wrong. If what is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change then CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service.
Music to my ears, I'd be happy just having my heavy SP refunded, but I'd gladly take a full respec so I can max out my Incubus build.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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