The Amarr Logi bonus is just as bad. We are THE slowest medium frame suits on the battlefield, but they give us a bonust to uplinks? We also have less PG than the other logis, and uplinks are PG hungry. Looks like I won't be utilizing my racial bonus. This could be a problem with the Amarr only having 1 equipment.

I was wondering how long it would take for you guys to find these on Sisi.

Just remember to have patience, and keep your magic crystal ball close by at all times. These numbers are not necessarily final.

On another note, the Gallente Heavy is looking pretty.

Heh every time they change something ppl are gunna cry for a respec and chuck tantrums, they've been doing this in eve for years so you might as well get used to the idea that things change and you'll need to train up for the next flavor of the patch.

I was wondering how long it would take for you guys to find these on Sisi.

Just remember to have patience, and keep your magic crystal ball close by at all times. These numbers are not necessarily final.

On another note, the Gallente Heavy is looking pretty.

I seem to have more than one crystal ball to start feeling confident on how OP Gallente hoovy's armor is gonna be.

Thanks for the gal heavy, but for the logi, i really don't like the bonus.
It's a constriction, use that logi for that work, use the other logi for the other work.
I'm really happy about the bonus on equipments pg/cpu for all, but the racial bonus... meh...

It's not the numbers that are the main issue, it's the bonuses themselves. Now assuming these are the bonuses you plan to implement, which sadly seems entirely likely. Did you not even look at them at all in the context of what already exists in the game, what the suits these bonuses apply to actually are like? For instance, the gallente logi bonus is insane, and if you can't see that, I wonder what game you have been playing these last months, because it certainly isn't dust.

I have never supported any QQing for respecs, but I can't help but think this is a slightly different scenario. Just setting aside the heavies who are finally getting alternatives to the one race they have so far been able to spec into, you are completely changing the roles of some suits. Minmatar logi going from having a hack bonus (which, in addition to other aspects of the suit, encourages speccing into things like biotics, dampening and hacking) to a bonus to rep tool use? Surely you can see, for instance, how someone fairly low on SP who has been speccing into very specific skill to specialize into a speedhacker to compliment their suit of choice will be left with a bunch of mainly useless skills in relation to the role CCP has suddenly decided their choice in suit should entail, on top of now suddenly needing to spec into a new list of skills that were before irrelevant to make the best of that suit... How discouraged someone in that situation would be? When even someone with as much SP as I have am feeling disgusted by how some of my choices, made with all the information we had available at the time, will now suddenly feel like complete waste?

And, no, I'm not saying there aren't plenty of minlogis running around using reptools contantly, I know there are, I used to be one of them (and I do dabble every now and then), but I came to the realization that if I wanted to be that logi, the gallente suit would have been more suited, and the other playstyles that the minmatar logi opened up for me were more interesting and challenging to me anyway. And one by one, changes to the game in the last months have made each of the different aspects that made me love the minlogi suit and the various support skills and weapons I specced into, that made the suit and the game so enjoyable to me, have been slowly whittled away to next to nothing. Speed has become mainly irrelevant, 2 of the weapons I have at proto level are useless now, the new gal logi bonus will make the use of dampening pretty much pointless and now my lovely speedhacking suit will be irrelevant.

I'm not going to make some pointless proclamation about how this will make me quit playing Dust, not like anyone cares anyway, and it won't. But I've been playing less and less recently, simply because I've been enjoying the game less and less recently. And I could give a long and very detailed list of the reasons, all choices made by the game devs, that have made me enjoy the game less, but that is not the point of this post.

tl;dr: Can we have a respec of the dropsuit command skill tree, please, once these changes go live?

Minmatar Logistics Skill:
Logistics Suit Bonus: 5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment per level.
Minmatar Logistics Bonus: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.

Oh how I will miss you, free complex codebreaker and armor repairer...

Good thing the replacement bonus is still pretty awesome

lol 45m range lai dai flux repair tool

The Amarr Logi bonus is just as bad. We are THE slowest medium frame suits on the battlefield, but they give us a bonust to uplinks? We also have less PG than the other logis, and uplinks are PG hungry. Looks like I won't be utilizing my racial bonus. This could be a problem with the Amarr only having 1 equipment.

So the juicy bonuses goes to Amarr and Gallente....

I do hope these changes will warrant a re-spec of Our dropsuit skills.

As far as I've been told from EVE players, Caldari is supposed to be best race for E-war and the scanning bonus goes to Galente...

Edit:

If Caldari and Gallente switched bonuses and Amarr and Minmatar did the same, wouldn't that make more sense gameplay wise and perhaps even lore wise?

Anyways, too bad the awesome hack bonus dissapears, perhaps it'll get allocated to a scout suit???

This mean it will even be more easier for your rep tool to lock-on to that CRU behind your ally who is in emergency need of reps .

I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day

In open fields...not exactly the place where I want to be with a minmatar logi.

So you're saying I should have just not been a heavy even though that's what I wanted to play, simply because CCP decided that releasing all racial variants wasn't important?

How does me playing a Gallente heavy instead of an Amarr heavy effect you?

But the overall Logi bonus makes them easier to fit.

They release one races ship and none of the others?

I didn't know that, last time I logged on there seems to be ships for all races. Huh, curious.

Not easy enough. I'm testing fittings right now, and I have to cut both my repair tool and injector down to basic just to fit enhanced uplinks, even after the bonus, which will only yeild me a total of +3 PG. Not only do I have to sacrifice my enhanced equipment, but my sidearm has to go as well. What exactly is the point of the Amarr Logi again?

The worst part is, I don't even like using uplinks... They're so boring, just like hives. I would rather have the Minmatar Logi bonus any day.

Not easy enough. I'm testing fittings right now, and I have to cut both my repair tool and injector down to basic just to fit enhanced uplinks, even after the bonus, which will only yeild me a total of +3 PG. Not only do I have to sacrifice my enhanced equipment, but my sidearm has to go as well. What exactly is the point of the Amarr Logi again?

The worst part is, I don't even like using uplinks... They're so boring, just like hives. I would rather have the Minmatar Logi bonus any day.

We added SOE ships they're Gal Amarr!

Whaaaa respec!

I can't load Sisi due to lack of a current Mac patch. Can someone look at the skill books and see if it looks like they are being restructured similar to the vehicle changes? The last time Sisi had both new and old versions.

So you support forcing people to hold onto Amarr heavies even if they never wanted to use them, but wanted to play heavies?

It's suddenly our fault that CCP's schedule is as slow as their heavies?

I'll still run uplinks, hives and repair tool on my main Minmatar Logistics suit. It gets a bonus to one of them. The Amarr and Caldari get bonuses to different ones. It doesn't make them less effective than what we have today unless the tools are being changed as well. With the equipment fitting bonus it'll be easier to run better versions of all of them and not weaken other aspects of my fitting.

The only bonus that seems off to me is the Gallente one. That seems like it should go to the Scout but I guess they are thinking of it as a counter-Scout support role.