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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:32:00 -
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RKKR wrote:This mean it will even be more easier for your rep tool to lock-on to that CRU behind your ally who is in emergency need of reps  .
Most. Annoying. Thing. Ever.
Zaria Min Deir wrote:
I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day
I honestly disagree. If rep tools worked through walls and hills and stuff, for instance, sure, but at those ranges? Good luck keeping a line of sight long enough to lock on, let alone do any good.[/quote]
^this. Also, considering that have the time the blue is right in front of me and I have to weave back and forth to get the damn thing to register half the time.
RKKR wrote:
In open fields...not exactly the place where I want to be with a minmatar logi.
Yep. Considering I'm 3 shotted across the map by RRs. I'm not going to be making much use of that 'longer' range. I use the core focused tool for this reason. It's shorter range but honestly, the longer range isn't going to help me much especially when us infantry are forced into buildings to avoid tanks. If my reps can't bend, I won't be using that range.
unless for some strange reason I wanted to be hilarious and rep a DS in the sky. that might be fun.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:34:00 -
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Not a hater. Since 1.7, I've been having the time of my life due to my corp/alliance but out of boredom, I opened steam and started playing other games and have to say, my willingness to open dust over these games is getting smaller and smaller, but then again, I'm rather ADD about my games so maybe I just need a different game style fix for a while.
If we get a respec because incoming changes completely alter paths (ie, the changes talked about today are in fact true), I think I'll just not spend the sp, close the game and revisit when ALL content is available and a meaningful sync between Eve and dust exists. There are already rumors of other pieces out there and quite honestly, I'm tired of the reclarification/categorization/overhaul of things. In my line of work, this is scope creep, LARGE scope creep, or project phases that could never have legitimately left beta.
I was a fan and lastly longer than any of my local friends but these level of changes are getting hard to really care to stick with.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:50:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I do enjoy the fact that CPM didn't find out about all this stuff until it was posted publicly with no chances in prior discussion.
CCP Shanghai seems dead set on developing in a black box. CCP can talk about transparency all they want, but until the developers responsible for the moment-to-moment gameplay actually bother having real discussions with the CPM and the community the talk of transparency is nothing but words.
I think one thing is clear though from these proposed skill changes etc. If significant changes like this were to occur a full respec for everyone needs to be done without question.
This pretty much tells me all I need to know (about CCP). CPMs role is to be an underappreciated voice for the community that will be ignored.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:23:00 -
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The most I got was 280. All I could think was:
 ....what did I do???
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:39:00 -
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Skihids wrote:
Oh, and enjoy the reduced reward for the added risk of running that proto rep tool.
At 218/second you won't need more than a single repair cycle to fix most damage so you get a single 25 WP reward for your exceptional work. Don't spend it all in one place.
I'm not certain it works that way. I'm fairly certain we get WP for amount of damaged fix, not duration. I could be wrong and would like confirmation, but if I'm right it just means my screen will spam +25s.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.15 12:30:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:bogeyman m wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.
Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. Would be better if the proposed Min Logi Rep Tool bonus was for speed (repair rate) rather than distance (which is not practical unless tools will repair through walls, terrain, etc. ) I'm not saying your wrong about the lock on mechanisms of the rep tools, but range defiantly could help. Imagine being able to rep your heavies from behind cover about 25 to 30 meters away where they can dodge and weave and not worry about you getting hit from the stray bullets. Also that range and bonus to reps might pose some really good results to vehicle reaping.
For most of us min logis its simply because that extra range isn't going to help much. I have the core focused rep tool and it has short range but honestly when I connect, I don't have to be there long before I can jump back in cover, scan or help my team in any other way. If I needed range, I could always scale back to the core rep tool (not the focused) with 21 distance range. That range is honestly plenty. Having longer range means that:
- I can heal my assault for about 3 more secs before he still outruns me since I can't run and heal at the same time
- I'm even more likely to get caught healing something I don't mean to heal because there are many more objects in my way to attach to
- People are using this example with the idea that I have that kind of open space to connect with. I for one never want to be stuck out in the wide open with my golden lasso of love announcing to everyone that I'm there and btw so is my greenberry, come gun us down with your RR or tank. Otherwise, I'm in a building where everyone is rushing around corners and cover which doesn't give me any benefits for 'distance'.
The bonus to reps I'm actually all for. I think my core focused rep tool might be beastly again.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:01:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Dj grammer wrote:
1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame?
Lemme get this straight... you want sympathy about how long it takes to get fully healed.. Because you have MORE HP THAN ANYTHING ELSE except a heavy??? yeahhhhhno. no sympathy. As far as 2.5 million SP.. yeah so what? That goes for all proto suits. Same for scouts. and scouts get even LESS slots. So again, no sympathy there. Quote:
Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you,
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing? Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi. So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
No offense to your corp, but that sounds more like a recruiting problem to me. I've seen tons of support logis on the field and personally my corp assaults run with an injector which makes me life so easy. I basically rep all day. Post something on your recruitment board and get some good logis.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:09:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:lee corwood wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing?
Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi.
So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".
No offense to your corp, but that sounds more like a recruiting problem to me. I've seen tons of support logis on the field and personally my corp assaults run with an injector which makes me life so easy. I basically rep all day. Post something on your recruitment board and get some good logis. Believe it or not, not everyone runs around with their corp buddies in full squads all day. The majority of people, in fact, do not do so, judging by the basic team makeup of most battles I'm in. This game is related to EVE, but it is not EVE. It isn't all about the corp you are in. For most people, its just about running around trying to have fun.
I hear you. I love my alliance but have several channels I've been invited to and I play the game to have fun. My kdr is proof positive of that. I have silly suits just because. However you're saying Logis as a whole should be punished because got forbid we kill something once in a while. I hate slayer logis as much as the rest of us, but the "change" hits even those of us that run as 100% support. I don't think taking away slots was the right way to go. Should have just made it impossible to stack dmg mods or even a bigger penalty.
But then again, why should I care at all when the balance in this game if just freaking hilarious. A 2 year old could balance this game better.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2014.01.15 22:24:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:lee corwood wrote:
I hear you. I love my alliance but have several channels I've been invited to and I play the game to have fun. My kdr is proof positive of that. I have silly suits just because. However you're saying Logis as a whole should be punished because got forbid we kill something once in a while. .
You're coming from "logis have this now, so taking it away is punishment". That's a misguided viewpoint. It's not "being punished", its "taking away something they never should have had to begin with". Logis should never, never NEVER have had the ability to have more tank than an assault. Never. No excuses, no exceptions. Any claim you may make about "but but logi..." would go double for the assault class. So no. Just no.
Yeah I was coming away from it as you're actually punishing the people who have a gun in their hand 30% of the battle and that you're crippling the force you just stated you wish was there to help you more often?? Very confused on that one but oh well. Seems you're happy on your pillar of empty-logic-rage-hate, so enjoy being up there and have fun with your games of no support logis (tho i'm starting to suspect they just weren't helping you). According to you this should be Assault514.
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