Actually, this seems consistent with the differences between Amarr and Gallente as it relates to Dust 514, just not with EVE Online. It kinda makes sense to me that the factions might develop different styles on the ground as appose to the skies. It's like the Amarr tank... what Amarr ship was ever designed as a 50/50 duel tank HP? Amarr disregard shields entirely, if fact, in EVE. Again, just a difference between their ground and sky tactics.


By the way, thanks Aeon for the effort in posting this, lol. Not sure if it was ever said. I fought in a PC against Egypt and Roofer in a PC, shared some GG mails and it took me back to the good times of ANON.

This might be the hardest thing I ever had to say. I might stop being a LogiBro. Keyword Might. Here are my reasons why:
1.) I used the natural repair bonus Logistics suits had to ensure I was in good condition while repairing others. This argument can be counted by repairing nano hives along with the new bonus. However the reduction in CPU/PG cost that everyone is predicting could hurt overall EHP as well as laying down cover fire for friendlies.

2.) I understand everything is not set in stone but the Assault bonus looks good, especially the Gallente Assault. On my MinLogi I have more armor than shield eight times out of ten. I know that my MinLogi gets a repair tool bonus which makes heavies happy along with other armor tankers. But a Logi should be self-sustaining after healing others.

3.) Being a LogiBro is insanely expensive in both Skill Points and ISK cost. Counting all Modules, dropsuits, and equipment that builds up a logi suit, the cost builds up fast and can take its toll on any unsuspecting player dying too much.

Who knows, maybe I'm looking way too much in this and should just sit back and enjoy the ride for now. When 1.8 drops and I see the bonus, I would make the decision on becoming a LogiBro once more or just drop it overall.

Would still love clarification on what constitutes "blast damage" for the Sentinel suit.

If it means "explosive damage" then we get general resistance to specific weapons--mass driver, flaylock pistol, locus grenades, and missile turrets.

Getting a bonus against "splash damage" on the other hand could be even more useful. That would expand the definition to splash damage from all grenades, forge guns, rail turrets, plasma cannons, etc. On the flip side, a direct hit would still score 100% damage for all weapons, including explosives. This would be my preference because it helps us resist all sorts of area-denial attacks but still keeps us wary of the direct damage caused by these weapons.

Would still love clarification on what constitutes "blast damage" for the Sentinel suit.

If it means "explosive damage" then we get general resistance to specific weapons--mass driver, flaylock pistol, locus grenades, and missile turrets.

Getting a bonus against "splash damage" on the other hand could be even more useful. That would expand the definition to splash damage from all grenades, forge guns, rail turrets, plasma cannons, etc. On the flip side, a direct hit would still score 100% damage for all weapons, including explosives. This would be my preference because it helps us resist all sorts of area-denial attacks but still keeps us wary of the direct damage caused by these weapons.

This might be the hardest thing I ever had to say. I might stop being a LogiBro. Keyword Might. Here are my reasons why:
1.) I used the natural repair bonus Logistics suits had to ensure I was in good condition while repairing others. This argument can be counted by repairing nano hives along with the new bonus.

However the reduction in CPU/PG cost that everyone is predicting could hurt overall EHP

It's splash damage. I'll change the text description as it seems to have caused more confusion than I'd have expected.

It's splash damage. I'll change the text description as it seems to have caused more confusion than I'd have expected.

Does that include, or exclude, damage from remote explosives? There isnt really a "direct hit" with them. Nor is there one with non-fused grenades.


Well, I suppose there COULD be a direct hit... if you start allowing RE's to be sticky on heavy suits.
It would seem to be a popular request...


"tag you're it!"

oh, woe is me.... if only they had a MODULE, that could automatically repair a suit?
Oh wait, they do have one.

So you'll lose a Whole Slot. Such a tragedy... when you should really be losing TWO slots, to put you on par with normal medium frame slot count.





Which would mean logis would have to actually use cover, rather than act like a tank, walking through the middle of battle without worries.
How.. terrible and unreasonable?

Lame excuses, "bro".

1st off, wow I repair at 5hp/s on armor out of how I run on my suit? about 500 running basic plates? so 100 seconds I have to wait to full health w/o repair modules? We're repairing at the speed of light right? Yes that really cost me a "whole suit" (sarcasm if you didn't get it). Also to have someone spend 2.5 million SP into their drop suit, you expect them to have the same amount of slots as a basic frame?

Also let me put it to you this way. If you were to take two slots away from the logistics class I can personally tell you that you will see little to no logistics players on the field at all. This means you going to die, no one can revive you,

Lemme get this straight... you want sympathy about how long it takes to get fully healed.. Because you have MORE HP THAN ANYTHING ELSE except a heavy??? yeahhhhhno. no sympathy.

As far as 2.5 million SP.. yeah so what? That goes for all proto suits.
Same for scouts. and scouts get even LESS slots. So again, no sympathy there.





Oh, you mean pretty much like it is now? Because all the logis on my team (or on the other team, for that matter) seem to be too busy killing people, instead of focusing on healing?
Right now, I'm more likely to get revived by a random assault carrying a needle, or a starter fit medic, than by a logi.
So I'm still not seeing a problem with that "change".

Logi does not have to equal medic to do their job. Uplinks, scans, and hives are all important, too

That guy is right especially if you partake in PC Battles. Sometimes we do not have to be equivalent to being a medic (contradicting myself). For you, whatever drop suit you run Quil, you would like to be in the action all the time. We the logis will carry those uplinks for ya to spawn on if no one revived you.

Logi does not have to equal medic to do their job. Uplinks, scans, and hives are all important, too

It's still considered as splash damage.

You're sounding like mr. Henry Ford;
"[you can run any dropsuit you like, so long as its a medium frame]"

No, I DONT want to be in the action all the time. I run scout. And I drop uplinks myself, thanks very much.

So warbarge strikes are splash too?

The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage.

Minmatar bonus is actually pretty nice - you'll get 88 HP/s on the Lai Dai from 48m away, on two targets. You can easily heal front liners without exposing yourself to significant danger. The WP earnings from that will be huge.

Gal Logi bonus takes the cake though. It has the potential to completely ruin stealth tanking for everyone except proto scouts with proto dampeners.

I agree that that is probably the rationale.

But the scanning bonus is asymmetrical with the other bonuses. Minmatar, Amarr and Caldari logis are getting bonuses to material effects, while Gallente logis are getting bonuses to information acquisition effects. The scanning bonus is global over an area, the material bonuses are local.

The scanning bonus is far more powerful on the battlefield than the other bonuses. I have the impression these bonuses were crafted by looking at the expected WP income for the individual Logi, as opposed to the way the respective Logis leverage their team.

Edit: I do want to say that i love the Logi equipment fitting bonus. That is as right as can be for the class. Well done.

The Amarr Logi bonus is just as bad. We are THE slowest medium frame suits on the battlefield, but they give us a bonust to uplinks? We also have less PG than the other logis, and uplinks are PG hungry. Looks like I won't be utilizing my racial bonus. This could be a problem with the Amarr only having 1 equipment.

So warbarge strikes are splash too?

I'll still run uplinks, hives and repair tool on my main Minmatar Logistics suit. It gets a bonus to one of them. The Amarr and Caldari get bonuses to different ones. It doesn't make them less effective than what we have today unless the tools are being changed as well. With the equipment fitting bonus it'll be easier to run better versions of all of them and not weaken other aspects of my fitting.

The only bonus that seems off to me is the Gallente one. That seems like it should go to the Scout but I guess they are thinking of it as a counter-Scout support role.