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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:37:00 -
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jackbubu wrote:just gonna leave this here Quote:Scout Suit Bonus: +10% bonus to PG/CPU cost of cloak field per level.
Amarr Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to cloak field cooldown per level.
Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level.
Gallente Scout Bonus: +5% to dropsuit scan radius and 5% reduction to scan profile per level.
Minmatar Scout Bonus: +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level.
No. 
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1059
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:39:00 -
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@Jackbubu
Terrible bonuses are terrible.
The cloak is far to situational for it to be the centerpiece of any specialization.
Not to mention we lose our scan stealth, I.E. One of the few good things about the scout.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1059
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:51:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:I didnt know this was what was proposed. I thought it was your proposal. so just transfer the Child Please to CCP 
Same.
Transfer my "Get out" to CCP as well.
Can anyone verify the new scout bonuses on the test server? I want to be absolutely sure before I start flipping tables.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:29:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:What does the caldari bonus mean?
My guess is that the cloak will have a limited charge amount where each use reduces the charge by some amount. The cal bonus will make it so they get more uses out of the cloak.
E.G.
Cloak has 100 charges
Each use consumes 20 charges
Cal scout will consume 15 charges per use instead
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:41:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Scout bonuses. I don't quite understand why everyone's  at them but then I barely started running scouts and I'm unfamiliar with the current situation on them.
First off, they removed the scan profile reduction. It's possible the suit now has a much lower base scan profile, but until CCP confirms as such, the scout is very much screwed.
Second, the cloak is a very situational tool and only one of a number of equipment/modules the scout should excel at using. Shoehorning all scouts into cloak users is terrible.
Imagine if the new logi bonus was a reduction only to uplink fitting costs and each logi got a bonus to one aspect of the uplink (clone count, spawn time, etc.).
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:55:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Oh yeah. I understand the worry then  . If Scouts are easier to detect, it would screw up their worth. I'm guessing you don't want both the Amarr and Caldari to have an advantage for that? The Gallente are given the ability to scan and not be scanned while the Minmatar scouts are their own version of hit-and-run(although I would've thought hacking would be placed there). Truthfully, maybe the developers don't know what to give the Amarr scouts to set them apart in terms of uniqueness? Every time I tried to think of the 4 roles myself, I could never come up with anything for the Amarr. I mean, I'm being honest here, what would you give them?
I want the Caldari scout to have a bonus to jammers, not cloaks. Until we have those, there are a number of placeholder bonuses I would rather the cal scout to have.
Precision bonus - If I have two lows, I would gladly make a passive scanner scout hunter fit
Shield regulator effectiveness bonus - Let me have a fit with crazy low shield regen delay (again, need 2 lows)
Rail weapon range increase - I will gladly become a sniper while I wait for jammers
etc.
Not sure what bonus the Amarr scout. Each race specializes in a certain type of E-Warfare in EVE, right? What do the Amarr specialize in?
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1067
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Posted - 2014.01.08 17:56:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:New Scout question:
Can you pull up the attributes, to confirm or deny whether any scout suits get more than 1 EQ slot?
For that matter, would be good to know the slot count on caldari and amarr scouts, too.
I'll presume they are not changing the slots for gallente and minmatar scout
I believe the test server doesn't contain that information.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.01.08 18:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aero Yassavi to the rescue!
Personally, I want the Amarr scout to have a bonus for total stamina and stamina regen, since all Amarr suits have the most stamina. We'd be the slowest scouts but faster in the long run. I'd like that very much.
Seems useful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
So the Amarr Scout is the hunter and the Minmatar are the Kudus? 
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1083
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:26:00 -
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Now that I've seen the Caldari Scout's dropsuit description, I'm not really seeing how the cal scout bonus is going to be useful.
If you are already cloaked, wouldn't you start shooting them while they were facing away from you? Unless TTK goes up by a fair amount, the extra time cloaked while shooting isn't going to do much good.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:14:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:So scouts should place uplink and hide?-_-;
Nope. Scouts are supposed to go cloak in the corner and pray there is not an omniscient gal logi in the area.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1246
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:40:00 -
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Erobthedude wrote:Shouldn't the Minmitar scout benefit from having a reduced scan profile so that we can get close enough to benefit from an increase in melee and nova knife damage? Or will scout suits be changed to have an innate lower scan profile?
Yes, they will. The current profile they are considering is 35dB.
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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