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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1486
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:54:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Let me link you this.These stats are hardly final, and are subject to change, calm down. EDIT: 800 likes, woo!
Last time we got "leaked" stats we told CCP that they were crap. CCP told us it is subject to change and guess what happened, those same crappy stats is what came out, and they remain crappy to this day. (Ferroscale and reactive plates) |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
2100
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:54:00 -
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If this is true, I am happy. I use Amarr Logistics as my pilot suit and I spam uplinks all over the map with it, so half the spawn time and 10 more spawns per uplink is one of the best bonuses I could get. Additionally, it replaces the crappy armor repair bonus which was useless to me, since I usually use plates or breakers. The fitting reduction is nice. The armor repair loss isn't a big deal; I can just fit a Reactive Plate, since I'm in a tank most of the time I only need a few HP/S repair.
Additionally, damage for Commandos and resistance for Sentinels seems nice.
126% damage with Proficiency 5 and level 5 Commando before damage modifiers.
Only things that stick out to me is the scan bonus for Gallente (scans overlap for permascan, who wants to stack 4 dampeners to get under them?), repair hive bonus for Caldari (almost 90 HP/S on a Wiyrkomi hive) and the Minmatar repair bonus (220 HP/S Core Focused).
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:55:00 -
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DONT TEASE DONT TEASE DONT TEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will believe it when i see it....
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4382
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:56:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:By the way, is it possible to see:
- Basic dropsuit skill bonuses
- Assault dropsuit skill bonuses
- Skill multipliers of skill books
?
Thanks for the post though, very interesting.
None of these were changed and I am unable to see skill multipliers.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4382
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:57:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Let me link you this.These stats are hardly final, and are subject to change, calm down. EDIT: 800 likes, woo! Last time we got "leaked" stats we told CCP that they were crap. CCP told us it is subject to change and guess what happened, those same crappy stats is what came out, and they remain crappy to this day. (Ferroscale and reactive plates)
But they were susceptible to feedback on vehicle/new rifle changes, so don't omit that information.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
801
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Posted - 2014.01.07 11:58:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Let me link you this.These stats are hardly final, and are subject to change, calm down. Is that item from the Collectors Edition EVE card? It's an old special edition item that was part of a Christmas celebration many years ago.
RKKR wrote:More reason to complain so we won't see ****** stuff I guess?
It's not like CCP acts like "Hey let's do a 3-hour meeting to make up some stuff and numbers we aren't going to use anyway". Well coming from CCP they might waste their time like that... CCP adds a lot of things into Singularity to test them out themselves. In example, CCP added a "can disruptor" item into the Singularity game files, which was misinterpreted as dscan disruptor due to how it was worded. Hilarity ensued in EVE at the thread that posted this.
BL4CKST4R wrote:Last time we got "leaked" stats we told CCP that they were crap. CCP told us it is subject to change and guess what happened, those same crappy stats is what came out, and they remain crappy to this day. (Ferroscale and reactive plates) If you want to be a cynic, be my guest. I'd rather wait for the actual devblogs and release of these items before calling them out.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:02:00 -
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I would expect a nerf to all relevant equiptment if there are suits that give bonuses...
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
536
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:03:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Let me link you this.These stats are hardly final, and are subject to change, calm down. EDIT: 800 likes, woo! Last time we got "leaked" stats we told CCP that they were crap. CCP told us it is subject to change and guess what happened, those same crappy stats is what came out, and they remain crappy to this day. (Ferroscale and reactive plates)
What can we, the community, do to prevent this from happening again?
(sidenote: fitting costs on Ferro and reactive still aren't worth it)
Hand written letters to CCP Shanghai asking them to please not implement these things?
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
Cass Caul is no longer my alt
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4382
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:06:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Let me link you this.These stats are hardly final, and are subject to change, calm down. EDIT: 800 likes, woo! Last time we got "leaked" stats we told CCP that they were crap. CCP told us it is subject to change and guess what happened, those same crappy stats is what came out, and they remain crappy to this day. (Ferroscale and reactive plates) What can we, the community, do to prevent this from happening again? (sidenote: fitting costs on Ferro and reactive still aren't worth it) Hand written letters to CCP Shanghai asking them to please not implement these things?
As stated in a previous post, CCP Shanghai was susceptible to vehicle and new rifle changes - even going so far as to bring back the Assault Dropships. As far as the rifles, they made the scalpel change a lot of us were looking for to the Rail Rifle, which originally had a shorter charge-up time and higher damage per round.
All that's required is patience and a calm demeanor. You're less likely to convince them to change anything if you blow up out of frustration and start spewing obscenities which can be misconstrued as hyperbole, something a lot of the Dust 514 community (including myself) are guilty of.
With CCP Rouge as Executive Producer, we've noticed a lot more progress and a lot less bullshit, I'd say.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
446
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:10:00 -
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I will be lurking this thread...
Also, great. Gallente logi bonus is kind of useless on my fit. I'm a medic and supplier, not a scanner :(
I don't think I want to pay as a scout anymore unless I see good changes. |
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Sirys Lyons
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:11:00 -
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Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level.
The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. |
Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4383
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:12:00 -
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Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage.
Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o
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Sirys Lyons
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:14:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o
Well, with an additional +25% bonus to reload speed too, they are the new HMG. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o
-_- come on people think here...
yes nice bonus... but what if it can only fit one dmg mod... still not as good as an assault with 3
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
254
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:16:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Noooooooooo look at that crappy Minmatar logistics bonus!!! Agreed What is the point of being a light, fast logi if we have to sit still behind a heavy and get shot at all day? -_-
I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day
Tech De Ra for CPM1
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Sirys Lyons
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:17:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o -_- come on people think here... yes nice bonus... but what if it can only fit one dmg mod... still not as good as an assault with 3
If it only has one high slot, as a shield-tanker...CCP have made a great ISK/AUR/LP sink. |
Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4383
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:18:00 -
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Sirys Lyons wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o -_- come on people think here... yes nice bonus... but what if it can only fit one dmg mod... still not as good as an assault with 3 If it only has one high slot, as a shield-tanker...CCP have made a great ISK/AUR/LP sink.
Truth.
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Zaria Min Deir
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
445
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:19:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Noooooooooo look at that crappy Minmatar logistics bonus!!! Agreed What is the point of being a light, fast logi if we have to sit still behind a heavy and get shot at all day? -_- I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day
I honestly disagree. If rep tools worked through walls and hills and stuff, for instance, sure, but at those ranges? Good luck keeping a line of sight long enough to lock on, let alone do any good.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
624
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:20:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Noooooooooo look at that crappy Minmatar logistics bonus!!! Agreed What is the point of being a light, fast logi if we have to sit still behind a heavy and get shot at all day? -_- I'd say a 47m range repper with 105 armor/sec is pretty sexy, sniping peoples armor back erry day
This mean it will even be more easier for your rep tool to lock-on to that CRU behind your ally who is in emergency need of reps  . |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1341
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:22:00 -
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If these changes are to go through, I'd demand a respec.
In Skirmish games, I use the mobility and hacking bonus of my MinLogi to help my teams secure and keep objectives. Now, it seems as if CCP wants to relegate MinLogis to nothing more than squishy field medics. |
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Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie
360
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:23:00 -
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Oh snap Racial Heavies. Going to finally be a Gallente Heavy rolling around in my Gallente LAV. Now I just need a Gallente Heavy weapon and I'll be good to go. I hope they update the Faction store with the release of these new dropsuits.
The Sentinel and Commando bonuses are pretty great. Going to be interesting to see how they ultimately effect the TTK issue though we'll probably still need to see a nerf to rifle damage across the board regardless.
... and then the Logi. I like the change to the PG/CPU reduction on equipment being made the overarching Logi bonus and the racial bonuses align with each race's equipment. I'm decidedly okay with it all. Good stuff if this is what they plan on releasing.
That Minmatar Logi bonus is going to be insane with the longer ranged reps ...
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Zaria Min Deir
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
445
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:24:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:If these changes are to go through, I'd demand a respec.
In Skirmish games, I use the mobility and hacking bonus of my MinLogi to help my teams secure and keep objectives. Now, it seems as if CCP wants to relegate MinLogis to nothing more than squishy field medics.
Apparently so.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
679
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:25:00 -
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FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!!!
Why are you believing OP?!?
He has shown descriptions and NOTHING MORE. The rest is hearsay.
Why would the race with the 2nd lowest HP per class need a logi with a bonus to reps?
It should go to the race with the walking tanks - The Gallente.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
255
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:26:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:If these changes are to go through, I'd demand a respec.
In Skirmish games, I use the mobility and hacking bonus of my MinLogi to help my teams secure and keep objectives. Now, it seems as if CCP wants to relegate MinLogis to nothing more than squishy field medics.
Its been known for a while that all logis would have thier bonuses changed, you still have slots to add a hacking mod on, thanks to the 25% reduction in cpu and pg on equipment
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4384
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:26:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!!!
Why are you believing OP?!?
He has shown descriptions and NOTHING MORE. The rest is hearsay.
Why would the race with the 2nd lowest HP per class need a logi with a bonus to reps?
It should go to the race with the walking tanks - The Gallente.
Because I provided screenshots from Singularity at the bottom of the post???
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Oswald Rehnquist
996
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:27:00 -
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Nice find, tis a shame I don't see anything about scouts, I'm just glad that my waiting till all the racial stuff is out before pouring sp into suits is paying off.
Though bolt pistol and magsec make me quite happy on its own though, I suspect we will be getting these in a couple of months.
Below 28 dB
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
446
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:28:00 -
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Sirys Lyons wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o Well, with an additional +25% bonus to reload speed too, they are the new HMG. Except at all ranges. With a shorter spin up time. And waaay more accurate. ...maybe this is the AV answer we've been looking for. Tank-busting rail rifle commando corps.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
461
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:31:00 -
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Yay Caldari heavy will be my favorite
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4386
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:32:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Sirys Lyons wrote:Quote:Caldari Commando Bonus: +2% damage to hybrid - railgun light weapons per level. The rail rifles have been seeming a bit weak. It's good to know we can stack on another +10% damage. Can't argue about Commando's being useless now, can we O_o Well, with an additional +25% bonus to reload speed too, they are the new HMG. Except at all ranges. With a shorter spin up time. And waaay more accurate. ...maybe this is the AV answer we've been looking for. Tank-busting rail rifle commando corps. Plasma Cannon + Swarm Launcher combo BEST AV
Neither of which are railguns xD
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
625
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:32:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:If these changes are to go through, I'd demand a respec.
In Skirmish games, I use the mobility and hacking bonus of my MinLogi to help my teams secure and keep objectives. Now, it seems as if CCP wants to relegate MinLogis to nothing more than squishy field medics. Its been known for a while that all logis would have thier bonuses changed, you still have slots to add a hacking mod on, thanks to the 25% reduction in cpu and pg on equipment
That goes for all suits....does that make it a good choice? |
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