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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1617
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:47:00 -
[27391] - Quote
Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames.
Sorry, Pseudo, can't find the quote. Though there wasn't much elaboration beyond the take away above. |
sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2515
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:49:00 -
[27392] - Quote
Did I ever tell anyone that I saw a proto Gallente Assault. (LP version.) running MLT NKs + MLT SG?
I must've killed him 13 times. (Went 29/13 that match.)
You better not cry. You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why. Raven Claws is coming to town!
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7077
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:53:00 -
[27393] - Quote
sir RAVEN WING wrote:Did I ever tell anyone that I saw a proto Gallente Assault. (LP version.) running MLT NKs + MLT SG?
I must've killed him 13 times. (Went 29/13 that match.) Why would someone have MLT weapons on a pro suit?
I don't even use those on a std suit...
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1727
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:55:00 -
[27394] - Quote
dzizur wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:btw please no knifing me when I run a heavy a lil this weekend. .. jk 250k per nova knife death . up to 1mill per game or until I go broke. preferred game mode and time of play? :)
if i'm squad lead it'll be a game of skirmish then a game of dom. Kinda like bouncing between the two. If I'm not squad lead.. it'll be skirmish or dom.
and wtf I literally got removed from battle for idling....as i was running toward the objective lol. I know heavy runs slow but geeze that is just mean saying i'm idling while I'm half way to the objective.
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7080
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:25:00 -
[27395] - Quote
@ Balistyc
Fox Gaden just made a post here discussing changes in PC.
I trust his judgement in general, and it might be a good thread for you to find more active PC players.
I think our most historically active PC players here have either left or don't come around as often as they used to.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1272
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:48:00 -
[27396] - Quote
Vitantur Nothus wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. Sorry, Pseudo, can't find the quote. Though there wasn't much elaboration beyond the take away above. It's cool :P Forum search engines suck anyways. I totally agree with the sentiment though, the majority of suits should be bread and butter assaults.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5456
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:56:00 -
[27397] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. Sorry, Pseudo, can't find the quote. Though there wasn't much elaboration beyond the take away above. It's cool :P Forum search engines suck anyways. I totally agree with the sentiment though, the majority of suits should be bread and butter assaults. I couldn't find it myself either. I recognise the statement, but if it was a dev then I think it was another one that said it.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6500
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:09:00 -
[27398] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. Sorry, Pseudo, can't find the quote. Though there wasn't much elaboration beyond the take away above. It's cool :P Forum search engines suck anyways. I totally agree with the sentiment though, the majority of suits should be bread and butter assaults. I couldn't find it myself either. I recognise the statement, but if it was a dev then I think it was another one that said it. If Spade can't find it
MOAR Ladders
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7082
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:17:00 -
[27399] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:If Spade can't find it Makes me question if it even exists...
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1229
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:21:00 -
[27400] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: #4 - Minmatar Scout. Faster, can use Kincats easily. Extremely fast stamina re-gen and a bonus that still doesn't make sense.
Implying the Minscout requires the least skill to knife in this thread is probably an excellent way to get stabbed. I also do not believe anyone else thinks out of all the scouts the Minja has no problems fitting kinetic catalyzers.
Anyone that does has not tried to fit two or more - MinScout has forever had fitting issues when it comes to kincats.
2Berries wrote:Do you manage for ewar or around ewar? I see no reason to run damps, amps, cloaks or precision mods with this update. Tacnet has become unreliable at any range. Active scanner is fittable only because it nets wp.
Anyone feel me, or am i out on a limb here?
Recent changes with the three rings has made it pretty unimportant imo. Range Amps are useless now (they got nerfed).
Basically, as a sneaky scout creeping up on prey, I am relying on cover more again like it used to be than being off-tacnet.
Bottom line, imo, is the base range is waaaayyyy too small to make EWAR interesting *at all*
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1229
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:27:00 -
[27401] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spitballing ...
A backpedal speed penalty might lead to shotgun overperformance; last we were told, its kills/spawn ranking was already higher than those of the Fine Rifles. Assuming the proposed change were to imbalance the SG, how might we reasonably rebalance it? Clip reduction? Spread the damage over a larger number of pellets?
I've read all the responses since this post related to the same, and I'm really concerned that we've all jumped on the *must nerf SG* bandwagon if we were to change backpedal, based on some stat we've never seen. (not that I'm suggesting it's not true)
Can anyone really say they've died whilst trying to shotgun someone to death because they back-pedalled? Close to within 5m and you're still hurting them even if they manage to increase the distance a little. Backpedal speed is stupid - but the biggest problem is related to knives, not shotguns.
BTW (and this ground has been covered before, and I thought they did actually reduce it a little fairly recently) - the ridiculous strafing that goes on in this game is also an effect of non-forwards movement speeds. So the reason so many are concerned about changing it is coz it affects far more than whether or not you can cheat death from a merc who put the effort in to sneak up on you.
If the stat shows lots of SG deaths, you simply cannot base a nerf on that figure alone on the assumption it is going to increase and the SG become OP.
When was the stat published, and what timeframe did it collect data from?
How many of those deaths are from crap cloak mechanics?
How many of those deaths are from mercs still specced into FotM scouts who haven't yet made it across to FotM assault / heavy?
Change the first thing (backpedal speed), monitor stats, tweak further if required. Rev it fast if estimates are wrong (ie don't allow months to go by). This can be the only way without a test server that the bs, game-breaking, SP-choices-matter-is-bollox ****-fest of nerf-buff cycles can be avoided without a test server.
o/ bastards
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
14373
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Posted - 2015.01.10 03:37:00 -
[27402] - Quote
Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames.
My stated goal is absolute parity so that people aren't forced into any role. If all roles are equal, let's say in K/D or WP/D, only preference should dictate your choice. In that case, I believe the natural role of a normal fps player defaults to slayer, and it becomes the most used role, but not because its better than the others, just more familiar. Those that like to logi, scout or use heavy weapons, go do that. We are seeing migration from scouts and heavies into assault, logis stay more or less the same. That was definitely intended as 8 months ago, assault was virtually non existant in all modes, just heavies and scouts.
I haven't been able to to do that meta blog I wanted to, but it is clear that our methods are working. The game is becoming more balanced, and I look forward to showing how nice the rifle usage pie chart has become, right now the only outliers are, even though they are on the rise, are the ascr, burst ar and tar. All got healthy boosts in the last balance hotfix and it clearly shows, just maybe not enough.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6974
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Posted - 2015.01.10 03:55:00 -
[27403] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. My stated goal is absolute parity so that people aren't forced into any role. If all roles are equal, let's say in K/D or WP/D, only preference should dictate your choice. In that case, I believe the natural role of a normal fps player defaults to slayer, and it becomes the most used role, but not because its better than the others, just more familiar. Those that like to logi, scout or use heavy weapons, go do that. We are seeing migration from scouts and heavies into assault, logis stay more or less the same. That was definitely intended as 8 months ago, assault was virtually non existant in all modes, just heavies and scouts. I haven't been able to to do that meta blog I wanted to, but it is clear that our methods are working. The game is becoming more balanced, and I look forward to showing how nice the rifle usage pie chart has become, right now the only outliers are, even though they are on the rise, are the ascr, burst ar and tar. All got healthy boosts in the last balance hotfix and it clearly shows, just maybe not enough. If Assaults had one more bonus it would change everything.
That sounds odd, but what if all the Assault suits got a plus to a module they are dependent on?
Amarr could get a bonus to armor, Caldari a bonus to rechargers, Gallente a bonus to armor reppers and Minmatar a bonus to shield extenders. Would really help them out.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6502
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Posted - 2015.01.10 03:59:00 -
[27404] - Quote
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. My stated goal is absolute parity so that people aren't forced into any role. If all roles are equal, let's say in K/D or WP/D, only preference should dictate your choice. In that case, I believe the natural role of a normal fps player defaults to slayer, and it becomes the most used role, but not because its better than the others, just more familiar. Those that like to logi, scout or use heavy weapons, go do that. We are seeing migration from scouts and heavies into assault, logis stay more or less the same. That was definitely intended as 8 months ago, assault was virtually non existant in all modes, just heavies and scouts. I haven't been able to to do that meta blog I wanted to, but it is clear that our methods are working. The game is becoming more balanced, and I look forward to showing how nice the rifle usage pie chart has become, right now the only outliers are, even though they are on the rise, are the ascr, burst ar and tar. All got healthy boosts in the last balance hotfix and it clearly shows, just maybe not enough. If Assaults had one more bonus it would change everything. That sounds odd, but what if all the Assault suits got a plus to a module they are dependent on? Amarr could get a bonus to armor, Caldari a bonus to rechargers, Gallente a bonus to armor reppers and Minmatar a bonus to shield extenders. Would really help them out. I think they are on the rise already though. I don't know the numbers though. If they need another boost I would rather see a tweak to the existing racial bonuses for the lower performing factions. Failing that I think your idea has merit.
MOAR Ladders
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
14381
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:11:00 -
[27405] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. My stated goal is absolute parity so that people aren't forced into any role. If all roles are equal, let's say in K/D or WP/D, only preference should dictate your choice. In that case, I believe the natural role of a normal fps player defaults to slayer, and it becomes the most used role, but not because its better than the others, just more familiar. Those that like to logi, scout or use heavy weapons, go do that. We are seeing migration from scouts and heavies into assault, logis stay more or less the same. That was definitely intended as 8 months ago, assault was virtually non existant in all modes, just heavies and scouts. I haven't been able to to do that meta blog I wanted to, but it is clear that our methods are working. The game is becoming more balanced, and I look forward to showing how nice the rifle usage pie chart has become, right now the only outliers are, even though they are on the rise, are the ascr, burst ar and tar. All got healthy boosts in the last balance hotfix and it clearly shows, just maybe not enough. If Assaults had one more bonus it would change everything. That sounds odd, but what if all the Assault suits got a plus to a module they are dependent on? Amarr could get a bonus to armor, Caldari a bonus to rechargers, Gallente a bonus to armor reppers and Minmatar a bonus to shield extenders. Would really help them out. I think they are on the rise already though. I don't know the numbers though. If they need another boost I would rather see a tweak to the existing racial bonuses for the lower performing factions. Failing that I think your idea has merit.
They are in a great state. The only thing that will be happen is inter Assault balancing.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6503
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:16:00 -
[27406] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Llast 326 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ Pseudo - I'll have to do some digging to find Rattati's quote; my take away was that a healthy assault unit would outsell the other, more specialized frames. My stated goal is absolute parity so that people aren't forced into any role. If all roles are equal, let's say in K/D or WP/D, only preference should dictate your choice. In that case, I believe the natural role of a normal fps player defaults to slayer, and it becomes the most used role, but not because its better than the others, just more familiar. Those that like to logi, scout or use heavy weapons, go do that. We are seeing migration from scouts and heavies into assault, logis stay more or less the same. That was definitely intended as 8 months ago, assault was virtually non existant in all modes, just heavies and scouts. I haven't been able to to do that meta blog I wanted to, but it is clear that our methods are working. The game is becoming more balanced, and I look forward to showing how nice the rifle usage pie chart has become, right now the only outliers are, even though they are on the rise, are the ascr, burst ar and tar. All got healthy boosts in the last balance hotfix and it clearly shows, just maybe not enough. If Assaults had one more bonus it would change everything. That sounds odd, but what if all the Assault suits got a plus to a module they are dependent on? Amarr could get a bonus to armor, Caldari a bonus to rechargers, Gallente a bonus to armor reppers and Minmatar a bonus to shield extenders. Would really help them out. I think they are on the rise already though. I don't know the numbers though. If they need another boost I would rather see a tweak to the existing racial bonuses for the lower performing factions. Failing that I think your idea has merit. They are in a great state. The only thing that will be happen is inter Assault balancing. Good to hear
Now can you tell people that just because you are vaguely considering something it does not mean that the entire development team pulls up everything they are working on to look at that one thing People listen to you You are kind of a big deal
MOAR Ladders
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2521
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Posted - 2015.01.10 04:27:00 -
[27407] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Did I ever tell anyone that I saw a proto Gallente Assault. (LP version.) running MLT NKs + MLT SG?
I must've killed him 13 times. (Went 29/13 that match.) Why would someone have MLT weapons on a pro suit? I don't even use those on a std suit... I use ADV w/ ADV and PRO. PRO ACR + ADV NKs.
Anyway, I have no idea either. He either A) Had a shiteton or B) Thought Proto made him unstoppable. A vote for C) Had no idea what he was doing.
You better not cry. You'd better not pout, I'm telling you why. Raven Claws is coming to town!
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1736
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Posted - 2015.01.10 14:05:00 -
[27408] - Quote
sir RAVEN WING wrote:One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Did I ever tell anyone that I saw a proto Gallente Assault. (LP version.) running MLT NKs + MLT SG?
I must've killed him 13 times. (Went 29/13 that match.) Why would someone have MLT weapons on a pro suit? I don't even use those on a std suit... I use ADV w/ ADV and PRO. PRO ACR + ADV NKs. Anyway, I have no idea either. He either A) Had a shiteton or B) Thought Proto made him unstoppable. I vote for C) Had no idea what he was doing.
Could be for funs. Fighting a proto suit then he kills you, you see he is using a a MLT rifle. You are going ..wtfff, he is laughing at the killfeed. I know a couple people who get a giggle outta it. I have weird friends though.
Or that guy could just be strange.
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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hfderrtgvcd
1689
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Posted - 2015.01.10 17:20:00 -
[27409] - Quote
poor gav https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61OLsGYhUaQ&list=UUldBb96c0OpYqYdCfEg50-A#t=3m47s
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1623
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Posted - 2015.01.10 17:40:00 -
[27410] - Quote
^ Should've been in your MinAssault, Gav. |
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
94
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Posted - 2015.01.10 18:00:00 -
[27411] - Quote
once upon a time i felt like a special minja running it when no one else in the skirmish match was being the only scout there to be pesky and hack objectives D and E across the map
and then yesterday happened where i faced a 6 man squad of minjas with shotguns why there was one cal scout with a shotgun they all wanted to kill me as i was the lone knifer i lost but i did better then all of them
Do it for the knives
Minja and Minlogi at your service
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
811
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Posted - 2015.01.10 19:03:00 -
[27412] - Quote
Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Click it! I dare you...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7090
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Posted - 2015.01.10 20:14:00 -
[27413] - Quote
LeGoose wrote:Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ about 3:50 in for those that want to see it.
Though to be fair, he came off much better than many of the other people in the video.
Who doesn't see a heavy from 1 m away on their tacnet???
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1233
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:01:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:LeGoose wrote:Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ about 3:50 in for those that want to see it. Though to be fair, he came off much better than many of the other people in the video. Who doesn't see a heavy from 1 m away on their tacnet???
Wow, didn't realise that was at 3:50 - just clicked on the link and there it was.
Now I see the You Tube link contains a t=3m47s parameter in the query string. Who knew.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7114
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:10:00 -
[27415] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:One Eyed King wrote:LeGoose wrote:Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ about 3:50 in for those that want to see it. Though to be fair, he came off much better than many of the other people in the video. Who doesn't see a heavy from 1 m away on their tacnet??? Wow, didn't realise that was at 3:50 - just clicked on the link and there it was. Now I see the You Tube link contains a t=3m47s parameter in the query string. Who knew. Whenver I did it, it started at the beginning
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
159
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Posted - 2015.01.11 05:38:00 -
[27416] - Quote
Hey guys. I finally went back to my Minja roots, and I must say. I am beginning to love it. I used to be an amazing scout (but then CCP Shanghai attacked :P) and now I'm a bit rusty. First game: 22/9 Scout m/1 Series 3x complex shield extender Basic PG upgrade (empty lowslot) ZN-28 (prof 3 and scout level 4) M209 (prof 4) Repair Tool Remote Explosives Flux Grenade Cost 38,180 ISK
But yeah,com loving scout again. I'm playing and re learning stealth (I hate cloaks refuse to skill em for now) Any tips of something?
EDIT: Did this on my Alt, who doesn't have max fitting skills. I'd run a damp and a Kincats on my main acc)
Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again.
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2540
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Posted - 2015.01.11 05:54:00 -
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I am almost ready to give in and start using a Minja. (Again.)
Keyword is Almost.
Just realized, I came here when I was playing Assault 95% of the time, and scout 2%.
Now I run Calscouts almost exclusively. Amazes me.
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
159
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Posted - 2015.01.11 06:44:00 -
[27418] - Quote
sir RAVEN WING wrote:I am almost ready to give in and start using a Minja. (Again.) Keyword is Almost. Just realized, I came here when I was playing Assault 95% of the time, and scout 2%. Now I run Calscouts almost exclusively. Amazes me. Your signature... I'm stealing it, (at least the knife)
Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again.
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1742
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Posted - 2015.01.11 14:04:00 -
[27419] - Quote
Sorry to say it but I think it is official. The plasma cannon has knocked nks out of my top 3 weapons.
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
162
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:06:00 -
[27420] - Quote
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Sorry to say it but I think it is official. The plasma cannon has knocked nks out of my top 3 weapons. I used to run PLC, I was a damn good shot. But I missed my knives more
Ex-Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my Minja again.
I <3 my Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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